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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FalconFan13 wrote:
Man if Desmond King can make that transition to FS at the next level i think he would look amazing next to Neal to form our safety duo for a long long time.

Neal - Chancellor

King - Earl Thomas

Pair them with our CB group

Trufant - top 5 or so CB in the league

Alford - One of the most athletic CB's their is and a really solid #2 CB.

Collins - He could actually start as our #2 over Alford and is playing close to the 1st round to 2nd round value we drafted him at as he gets more experience.

Poole - Best UDFA from last years draft possibly and is a great Nickleback. Have had a few analysts say he has played as good or better than any CB in the draft last year so far.


This move also makes Ricardo Allen as depth for CB and FS thats top tier depth at both positions.


Malik Hooker would be perfect for what we need at FS. I doubt he falls to us though.
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jarren wrote:
FalconFan13 wrote:
Man if Desmond King can make that transition to FS at the next level i think he would look amazing next to Neal to form our safety duo for a long long time.

Neal - Chancellor

King - Earl Thomas

Pair them with our CB group

Trufant - top 5 or so CB in the league

Alford - One of the most athletic CB's their is and a really solid #2 CB.

Collins - He could actually start as our #2 over Alford and is playing close to the 1st round to 2nd round value we drafted him at as he gets more experience.

Poole - Best UDFA from last years draft possibly and is a great Nickleback. Have had a few analysts say he has played as good or better than any CB in the draft last year so far.


This move also makes Ricardo Allen as depth for CB and FS thats top tier depth at both positions.


Malik Hooker would be perfect for what we need at FS. I doubt he falls to us though.


Ofcourse he would but he's a top 10 to 15 talent and unless you are prepared to give up a 1st next year and maybe a 2nd this year to go get him i don't see it happening lol.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Comps
DE Derek Barnett - Brandon Graham
OLB Myles Garrett - Chris Clemons
DT Malik McDowell - Malik Jackson
CB Jourdan Lewis - A.J. Bouye
S Jamal Adams - taller Earl Thomas
DE Jonathan Allen - Jurrell Casey
S Jabrill Peppers - Malcolm Jenkins
RB Leonard Fournette - Ricky Williams
CB Sidney Jones - Darius Slay
DB Desmond King - Eugene Wilson
CB Jalen Tabor - Asante Samuel
TE Jake Butt - Brent Celek
QB Deshaun Watson - poor man's Cam Newton
S Malik Hooker - Devon McCourty
WR Mike Williams - Amani Toomer
TE Evan Engram - Dustin Keller
LB Zach Cunningham - Tahir Whitehead
RB Dalvin Cook - Lamar Miller
RB Christian McCaffrey - Marshall Faulk
OT Cam Robinson - King Dunlap
WR Travin Dural - Javon Walker
OLB Tim Williams - Lorenzo Mauldin
WR Corey Davis - Allen Hurns
RB D’Onta Foreman - Jonathan Dwyer
QB Patrick Mahomes - an air raid Matt Stafford
TE Jaylen Samuels - Charles Clay
WR John Ross - Stefon Diggs
QB Mitch Trubisky - between a stronger armed Andy Dalton & Mark Sanchez
WR Malachi Dupree - Dontrelle Inman
DT Jaleel Johnson - Kawaan Short
OLB Haason Reddick - 6'1 Anthony Barr
QB Deshone Kizer - Jason Campbell
WR JuJu Smith-Schuster - Chris Harper
RB Marlon Mack - DeMarco Murray
OG Adam Bisnowaty - Austin Pazstor
OG Ryan Ramczyk - David Diehl
WR Ryan Switzer - Nick Williams
TE Cethan Carter - Lance Kendricks
DT Demarcus Walker - Datone Jones
DT Solomon Thomas - Aaron Donald lite
DE Chris Wormley - Matt Shaughnessy
RB Wayne Gallman - Chris Ogbonnaya
S Nate Gerry - Mark Barron
WR Isaiah Ford - Cody Core
QB C.J. Beathard - Tom Savage
RB Kareem Hunt - Spencer Ware
RB Jamaal Williams - Chris Ivory
CB Des Lawrence - Jason McCourty
RB Jeremy McNichols - Dion Lewis
QB Brad Kaaya - Ricky Stanzi
WR Josh Reynolds - Justin McCareins
OC Pat Elflein - Eric Wood
DE Jordan Willis - Cameron Jordan
CB Adoree Jackson - Jayron Hosley
RB Joe Williams - Arian Foster
S Tedric Thompson - Duron Harmon
WR Amba Etta Tawo - Torrey Smith
DE Charles Harris - Anthony Spencer
DE Takkarist Mckinley - Jabaal Sheard
CB Kevin King - Richard Sherman
OT Forrest Lamp -Justin Pugh
RB Curtis Samuel - Taiwan Jones
S Budda Baker - Mike Adams
QB Chad Kelly - Ryan Tannehill
RB Corey Clement - Robert Turbin
OT Garrett Bolles - Jordan Gross
OC Ethan Pocic - Ryan Cook
TE Bucky Hodges - Jermicheal Finley
TE O.J. Howard - skinny Marcedes Lewis
CB Marshon Lattimore - Robert Alford
LB Reuben Foster - Kevin Burnett
CB Gareon Conley - Stephon Gilmore
TE David Njoku - Vernon Davis
DE Tanoh Kpassangnon - Kevin Carter
S Montae Nicholson - Kelcie McCray
DT Carlos Watkins - Pat Sims
OT Anthony Garcia - poor man's D'brickashaw Ferguson
OT Dion Dawkins - Marshall Newhouse
DE Carl Lawson - Corey Lemonier
DT Lowell Lotulelei - Sealver Siligia
WR Amara Darboh - Pierre Garcon
OG Dorian Johnson - Jon Asamoah
CB Quincy Wilson - Jimmy Smith
RB James Connor - faster Matt Asiata
RB Joe Mixon - slower Latavius Murray
RB Donnel Pumphrey - Dexter McCluster
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You listed Chad Kelly twice^
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Thanks. I like the Tannehill one better. ;
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Post senior week practice rankings


QB
1. Mitch Trubisky* | UNC
2. Patrick Mahomes* | Texas Tech
3. Deshaun Watson* | Clemson
4. Deshone Kizer** | Notre Dame
5. Chad Kelly | Ole Miss
6. Nate Peterman | Pitt
7. C.J. Beathard | Iowa
8. Brad Kaaya* | Miami
9. Davis Webb | California

RB
1. Leonard Fournette* | LSU
2. Christian McCaffrey* | Stanford
3. Dalvin Cook* | Florida St
4. Joe Williams | Utah
5. Marlon Mack* | South Florida
6. Kareem Hunt | Toledo
7. Jamaal Wiliiams |RB| BYU
8. James Conner | Pittsburgh
9. Joe Mixon** | Oklahoma
10. Matt Dayes | NC State
11. Donta Foreman* | Texas
12. Jeremy McNichols | Boise St
13. Samaje Perine | Oklahoma

WR
1. Mike Williams* | Clemson
2. Josh Reynolds | Texas A&M
3. John Ross | Washington
4. Amba Etta Tawo | Syracuse
5. Corey Davis | W. Michigan
6. Dede Westbrook | Oklahoma
7. Cooper Kupp | E. Washington
8. Rodney Adams | South Florida
9. Zay Jones | E. Carolina
10. Amara Darboh | Michigan
11. Damore'ea Stringfellow* | Ole Miss
12. Travin Dural | LSU

TE
1. Evan Engram | Ole Miss
2. David Njoku*| Miami
3. O.J. Howard | Alabama
4. Bucky Hodges | Virginia Tech
5. Gerald Everett | S. Alabama
6. Jake Butt | Michigan
7. Scott Orndoff | Pitt
8. Jonnu Smith | FIU
9. Jordan Leggett | Clemson
10. Cethan Carter | Nebraska
11. Michael Roberts | Toledo
12. Jeremy Sprinkle | Arkansas
13. Ricky Seals-Jones | Texas A&M

OT
1. Garrett Bolles | Utah
2. Forrest Lamp | W. Kentucky
3. Cam Robinson | Alabama
4. Ryan Ramczyk | Wisconsin
5. Anthony Garcia | Troy
6. Julie'n Davenport | Bucknell
7. Taylor Moton | W. Michigan
8. Connor McDermott | UCLA
9. David Sharpe*| Florida
10. Rod Johnson* | Florida St

OG
1. Forrest Lamp | W. Kentucky
2. Dorian Johnson | Pitt
3. Ryan Ramczyk | Wisconsin
4. Damien Mama**| USC
5. Dan Feeney | Indiana
6. Issac Asiata | Utah
7. Dion Dawkins | Temple
8. Jessamen Dunker | Tennessee St
9. Ethan Pocic | LSU
10. Adam Bisnotawy | Pitt
11. Ben Braden | Michigan

OC
1. Pat Elflein | Ohio St
2. Dan Feeney | Indiana
3. Jay Guillermo | Clemson
4. Ethan Pocic | LSU
5. Tyler Orlovsky | West Virginia
6. Cam Tom | Southern Miss

DE
1. Derek Barnett* | Tennessee
2. Myles Garrett* | Texas A&M
3. Charles Harris* | Mizzou
4. Jonathan Allen | Alabama
5. Takkarist McKinley | UCLA
6. Jordan Willis | Kansas St
7. Tanoh Kpassangnon | Villanova
8. Chris Wormley | Michigan
9. Demarcus Walker | Florida St
10. Carl Lawson | Auburn

OLB/DE
1. Myles Garrett* | Texas A&M
2. Haason Reddick | Temple
3. Tim Williams | Alabama
4. Takkarist McKinley | UCLA
5. Charles Harris* | Mizzou
6. T.J. Watt* | Wisconsin
8. Derek Barnett* | Tennessee
9. Tarell Bashem | Ohio
10. Vince Biegel | Wisconsin
11. Dawuane Smoot | Illinois

DT
1. Solomon Thomas* | Stanford
2. Jonathan Allen | Alabama
3. Malik McDowell* | Michigan St
4. Jaleel Johnson | Iowa
5. Chris Wormley | Michigan
6. Carlos Watkins | Clemson
7. Montravius Adams | Auburn
8. Caleb Brantley* | Florida
9. Lowell Lotulelei* | Uta
10. Elijah Qualls*| Washington
11. Eddie Vanderdoes | UCLA
12. Ryan Glasgow | Michigan
13. Dalvin Tomlinson | Alabama

ILB
1. Jarrad Davis | Florida
2. Kendall Beckwith | LSU
3. Reuben Foster | Alabama
4. Zach Cunningham* | Vanderbilt
5. Haason Reddick | Temple
6. Raekwon McMillan* | Ohio St
7. Anthony Walker | Northwestern
8. Jalen Reeves-Maybin | Tennessee
9. Alex Anzalone*| Florida

OLB
1. Reuben Foster | Alabama
2. Jarrad Davis | Florida
3. Zach Cunningham* | Vanderbilt
4. Kendall Beckwith | LSU
5. Haason Reddick | Temple
6. Carroll Phillips | Illinois
7. Anthony Walker | Northwestern
8. Jalen Reeves-Maybin | Tennessee

CB
1. Sidney Jones* | Washington
2. Jalen Tabor* | Florida
3. Gareon Conley* | OSU
4. Kevin King | Washington
5. Fabian Moreau | UCLA
6. Jourdan Lewis | Michigan
7. Desmond King | Iowa
8. Marshon Lattimore**| OSU
9. Damontae Kazee | San Diego St
10. Quincy Wilson* | Florida
11. Tre'Davious White | LSU
12. Adoree Jackson*| USC
13. Rasul Douglas | W. Virginia
14. Des Lawrence | UNC
15. Marlin Humphrey** | Alabama
16. Obi Melifonwu | UConn

S
1. Jamal Adams* | LSU
2. Desmond King | Iowa
3. Jabrill Peppers* | Michigan
4. Malik Hooker** | OSU
5. Montae Nicholson* | Michigan St
6. Budda Baker | Washington
7. Josh Johnson | Boston College
8. Justin Evans | Texas A&M
9. Obi Melifonwu | UConn
10. Marcus Williams | Utah
11. Dante Barnett | Kansas St
12. Xavier Woods | LA Tech
13. Tedric Thompson | Colorado



Overall

1. S Jamal Adams | LSU
2. CB Sidney Jones* | Washington
3. DT Solomon Thomas* | Stanford
4. DT Jonathan Allen | Alabama
5. DE Derek Barnett | Tennessee
6. DE Myles Garrett* | Texas A&M
7. DT Malik McDowell* | Michigan S
8. RB Leonard Fournette* | LSU
9. RB Christian McCaffrey* | Stanford
10. LB Jarrad Davis | Florida
11. DE Charles Harris* | Mizzou
12. CB Jalen Tabor* | Florida
13. CB Gareon Conley* | OSU
14. S Jabrill Peppers* | Michigan
15. CB Kevin King | Washington
16. TE Evan Engram | Ole Miss
17. S Desmond King | Iowa
18. LB Kendall Beckwith | LSU
19. RB Dalvin Cook* | Florida St
20. S Malik Hooker** | Ohio St
21. CB Jourdan Lewis | Michigan
22. WR Mike Williams* | Clemson
23. LB Reuben Foster | Alabama
24. OT Garrett Bolles | Utah
25. WR John Ross | Washington
26. LB Zach Cunningham* | Vanderbilt
27. LB Haason Reddick | Temple
28. OT Forrest Lamp | W.Kentucky
29. TE David Njoku*| Miami
30. OC Pat Elflein | Ohio St
31. QB Mitch Trubisky | North Carolina
32. DT Jaleel Johnson | Iowa
33. RB Joe Williams | Utah
34. OT Ryan Ramczyk | Wisconsin
35. DE Tanoh Kpassangnon | Villanova
36. RB Marlon Mack*| South Florida
37. CB Fabian Moreau | UCLA
38. DT Chris Wormley | Michigan
39. OG Dorian Johnson | Pitt
40. DE Takkarist McKinley | UCLA
41. CB Marshon Lattimore**| OSU
42. CB Damontae Kazee | San Diego St
43. OG Damien Mama**| USC
44. CB Quincy Wilson* | Florida
45. DT Carlos Watkins | Clemson
46. OLB T.J. Watt* | Wisconsin
47. TE O.J. Howard | Alabama
48. QB Patrick Mahomes* | Texas Tech
49. CB Tre'Davious White | LSU
50. WR Amba Etta Tawo | Syracuse
51. WR Corey Davis | W. Michigan
52. S Montae Nicholson* | Michigan St
53. S Budda Baker | Washington
54. CB/R Adoree Jackson*| USC
55. CB Rasul Douglas | W. Virginia
56. LB Raekwon McMillan* | Ohio St
57. DT Montravius Adams | Auburn
58. OLB Carroll Phillips | Illinois
59. CB Des Lawrence | UNC
60. TE Bucky Hodges | Virginia Tech
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BrownLeader wrote:
Comps


DE Derek Barnett - Brandon Graham
"Solid."
OLB Myles Garrett - Chris Clemons
"ermm...what now? This is obnoxious."
DT Malik McDowell - Malik Jackson
"Don't see it. Jackson is super stout. McDowell is a better athlete. I see Chris Jones."
CB Jourdan Lewis - A.J. Bouye
"Strange. Lewis is really small. I love him, but he's short and small. Bouye is a bigger CB."
S Jamal Adams - taller Earl Thomas
"Schwat? Malik Hooker is more Earl Thomas than Adams. Adams is closer to Landon Collins or Adrian Wilson. SS."
DE Jonathan Allen - Jurrell Casey
"Maybe, but Allen is more athletic and powerful. Casey is squatty."
S Jabrill Peppers - Malcolm Jenkins
"Don't see this one either. Peppers is a freak. Jenkins is a heady safety, but is not nearly as physical or athletic.
RB Leonard Fournette - Ricky Williams
"Yeah. Like this one."
CB Sidney Jones - Darius Slay
"Maybe. Jones is not as good in man coverage though."
DB Desmond King - Eugene Wilson
"I could see this."
CB Jalen Tabor - Asante Samuel
"Sure."
TE Jake Butt - Brent Celek
"Makes sense."
QB Deshaun Watson - poor man's Cam Newton
"Not close. Zero of his skills are close to Cam. He's like late in his career McNabb if anything."
S Malik Hooker - Devon McCourty
"I see more Ed Reed/Earl Thomas, but McCourty is not a bad comp."
WR Mike Williams - Amani Toomer
"Williams is a much better player than Toomer. Williams has deep speed and an elite catch radius."
TE Evan Engram - Dustin Keller
"This makes sense. I think Keller would have been good if he wasn't always injured."
LB Zach Cunningham - Tahir Whitehead
"Yeah."
RB Dalvin Cook - Lamar Miller
"Sure."
RB Christian McCaffrey - Marshall Faulk
"I see it."
OT Cam Robinson - King Dunlap
"Robinson is underrated. Dunlap cannot pass set like Robinson."
WR Travin Dural - Javon Walker
"Haven't seen enough of Dural."
OLB Tim Williams - Lorenzo Mauldin
"I could see this. I'm surprised Mauldin hasn't been more successful. I pimped him hard."
WR Corey Davis - Allen Hurns
"This isn't bad. I see more Josh Gordon/Andre Johnson to him. He's a freaky athlete. Hurns is not."
RB D’Onta Foreman - Jonathan Dwyer
"Foreman is better than that. Dwyer was useless. Not sure who I'd comp Foreman to though."
QB Patrick Mahomes - an air raid Matt Stafford
"Mahomes has fake arm strength. That wind up rifle shot. Stafford can flick the wrist and make it fly."
TE Jaylen Samuels - Charles Clay
"Dunno him."
WR John Ross - Stefon Diggs
"Nope. Diggs was supremely polished running routes. Caught the ball cleanly consistently. Don't see this comp."
QB Mitch Trubisky - between a stronger armed Andy Dalton & Mark Sanchez
"Bleh. I see a future great QB in Trubisky, so obviously this comp makes me sad. I see Rich Gannon."
WR Malachi Dupree - Dontrelle Inman
"Don't know enough about Dontrelle Inman to validate this."
DT Jaleel Johnson - Kawaan Short
"Yup. Johnson's going to be a pro bowl player."
OLB Haason Reddick - 6'1 Anthony Barr
"Possibly. Sounds like he's going to be a superstar."
QB Deshone Kizer - Jason Campbell
"Possibly. Kizer's a much better athlete though."
WR JuJu Smith-Schuster - Chris Harper
"This one vexes me. Chris Harper is a nobody. Smith reminds me of Eric Moulds"
RB Marlon Mack - DeMarco Murray
"Murray is much larger and runs with more power."
OG Adam Bisnowaty - Austin Pazstor
"Yep."
OG Ryan Ramczyk - David Diehl
"Ramczyk is too athletic to be David Diehl. And I highly doubt he plays OG."
WR Ryan Switzer - Nick Williams
"Switzer's better than that nobody. He's much faster, has better hands, and is excellent with the football in his hands."
TE Cethan Carter - Lance Kendricks
"Dunno anyone named Cethan."
DT Demarcus Walker - Datone Jones
"Maybe in terms of NFL impact...I don't like Walker, but he has many more pass rush moves & quickness that Jones does not."
DT Solomon Thomas - Aaron Donald lite
"If anyone is Aaron Donald lite, it's Caleb Brantley. Thomas is too stiff for that comp IMO."
DE Chris Wormley - Matt Shaughnessy
"I like Wormley more than most, but these two are built similarly. Comp makes sense."
RB Wayne Gallman - Chris Ogbonnaya
"Gallman should be better than that. He's built frail, but runs like a truck. Can't think of a good comp for him."
S Nate Gerry - Mark Barron
"Need to watch Gerry. One of the few potential 1st/2nd day guys I haven't watched yet."
WR Isaiah Ford - Cody Core
"Ford is better than Cody Core. I see Titus Young without the off-field issues."
QB C.J. Beathard - Tom Savage
"Schwat? Beathard could probably throw a football half as far as Savage. Plus, Beathard is smaller and more accurate."
RB Kareem Hunt - Spencer Ware
"Yeah I could buy this. I think he's a little better than Ware, but the comparison is solid. I see a poor man's Gore."
RB Jamaal Williams - Chris Ivory
"I think he's more athletic than Ivory. I think Williams will be like Le'Veon Bell. Ivory is just a truck. Williams has great quickness and elusiveness."
CB Des Lawrence - Jason McCourty
"Love Lawrence. I could see him being a McCourty type starter."
RB Jeremy McNichols - Dion Lewis
"McNichols does not have the quickness Lewis does. Both are excellent receivers though."
QB Brad Kaaya - Ricky Stanzi
"Nah. Kaaya reminds me of a poor man's Eli Manning. The bad Eli Manning."
WR Josh Reynolds - Justin McCareins
"Reynolds has a little more juice, but otherwise pretty solid comp."
OC Pat Elflein - Eric Wood
"Possibly. Elflein is physically better. Faster and stronger."
DE Jordan Willis - Cameron Jordan
"Cameron Jordan is a little rich IMO. I see Tyrone Crawford, but the play styles are similar."
CB Adoree Jackson - Jayron Hosley
"Certainly possible. Hosley was a great athlete more than a football player. I could buy this."
RB Joe Williams - Arian Foster
"Not at all seeing this. Williams is easy to tackle. Foster was big and smooth in space. Can't buy this comp."
S Tedric Thompson - Duron Harmon
"Only saw Thompson play once. Can't comment."
WR Amba Etta Tawo - Torrey Smith
"Nope. Tawo doesn't run anywhere near that fast. Ball skills are similar, but Smith had rip the top off you speed. Tawo seems like a 4.5 guy."
DE Charles Harris - Anthony Spencer
"Don't like this one. Harris is a much better athlete and more of a finesse rusher."
DE Takkarist Mckinley - Jabaal Sheard
"Nice."
CB Kevin King - Richard Sherman
"Don't see it, but need to watch more King. Was not impressed initially."
OT Forrest Lamp -Justin Pugh
"Definitely makes sense."
RB Curtis Samuel - Taiwan Jones
"Not really high on Samuel, but he's better than Jones. Especially as a receiver."
S Budda Baker - Mike Adams
"I'm not in love with Baker. I like this comparison, but a lot of people will disagree."
QB Chad Kelly - Ryan Tannehill
"Kelly is not nearly as athletic as Tannehill, but as passers they are somewhat comparable."
RB Corey Clement - Robert Turbin
"ehhhh Turbin was such a freak athlete. Clement is an average athlete but great football player."
OT Garrett Bolles - Jordan Gross
"Wowsers! That is some high praise. Only watched 1 tape of Bolles and liked what I saw though."
OC Ethan Pocic - Ryan Cook
"Pocic will be better than Cook. Hard to find a good comp for a 6'7 C though."
TE Bucky Hodges - Jermicheal Finley
"Possibly. Finley was able to line up as a true TE though. I don't ever see Hodges playing in-line."
TE O.J. Howard - skinny Marcedes Lewis
"Don't see this. Howard is a freak athlete. As blockers they are similar, but Howard has great speed. Lewis never did."
CB Marshon Lattimore - Robert Alford
"Alford is not the worst comp because they're both sticky in man, but Lattimore is bigger and a better overall technician. Plus great ball skills."
LB Reuben Foster - Kevin Burnett
"Burnett wasn't terrible, but I think Foster is on another level. Not sure who I'd comp him to though."
CB Gareon Conley - Stephon Gilmore
"Gilmore is longer and more of a zone cover guy IIRC. Conley is a more boring athletically technician."
TE David Njoku - Vernon Davis
"Vernon Davis was too freaky for this comparison. Njoku is like a much faster and more agile Devin Funchess. Comping anyone to VD is tough."
DE Tanoh Kpassangnon - Kevin Carter
"Don't see it. Carter was more powerful where Tanoh is a better athlete."
S Montae Nicholson - Kelcie McCray
"See it."
DT Carlos Watkins - Pat Sims
"Sims was a better athlete than Watkins. Watkins bores me to death with his traits. Sims had a lot of potential."
OT Anthony Garcia - poor man's D'brickashaw Ferguson
"Sure."
OT Dion Dawkins - Marshall Newhouse
"Sure."
DE Carl Lawson - Corey Lemonier
"Lawson is much more powerful and violent. Lemonier was a speedster that ripped the edge. Lawson goes through your chest."
DT Lowell Lotulelei - Sealver Siligia
"Sure."
WR Amara Darboh - Pierre Garcon
"I don't think Darboh is quite that fast, but it's still a nice comparison. I said Reggie Wayne."
OG Dorian Johnson - Jon Asamoah
"Maybe. Asomoah was not as powerfully built though. Johnson is like the OG version of Tyron Smith."
CB Quincy Wilson - Jimmy Smith
"Makes sense."
RB James Connor - faster Matt Asiata
"..........."
RB Joe Mixon - slower Latavius Murray
"Murray isn't agile enough to be comparable to Mixon. Not sure who my Mixon comp would be."
RB Donnel Pumphrey - Dexter McCluster
"Yup."

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Post senior week practice rankings


QB
1. Mitch Trubisky* | UNC
2. Patrick Mahomes* | Texas Tech
3. Deshaun Watson* | Clemson
4. Deshone Kizer** | Notre Dame
5. Nate Peterman | Pitt
6. Chad Kelly | Ole Miss
7. C.J. Beathard | Iowa
8. Brad Kaaya* | Miami
9. Davis Webb | California

"I think you're too low on Kaaya and too high on Mahomes."

RB
1. Leonard Fournette* | LSU
2. Christian McCaffrey* | Stanford
3. Dalvin Cook* | Florida St
4. Joe Williams | Utah
5. Marlon Mack* | South Florida
6. Kareem Hunt | Toledo
7. Jamaal Wiliiams |RB| BYU
8. James Conner | Pittsburgh
9. Joe Mixon** | Oklahoma
10. Matt Dayes | NC State
11. Donta Foreman* | Texas
12. Jeremy McNichols | Boise St
13. Samaje Perine | Oklahoma

"A bit high on Williams IMO."

WR
1. Mike Williams* | Clemson
2. Josh Reynolds | Texas A&M
3. John Ross | Washington
4. Amba Etta Tawo | Syracuse
5. Corey Davis | W. Michigan
6. Dede Westbrook | Oklahoma
7. Cooper Kupp | E. Washington
8. Rodney Adams | South Florida
9. Zay Jones | E. Carolina
10. Amara Darboh | Michigan
11. Damore'ea Stringfellow* | Ole Miss
12. Travin Dural | LSU

"Criminally high on Reynolds and Amba, criminally low on Corey Davis."

TE
1. Evan Engram | Ole Miss
2. David Njoku*| Miami
3. O.J. Howard | Alabama
4. Bucky Hodges | Virginia Tech
5. Gerald Everett | S. Alabama
6. Jake Butt | Michigan
7. Scott Orndoff | Pitt
8. Jonnu Smith | FIU
9. Jordan Leggett | Clemson
10. Cethan Carter | Nebraska
11. Michael Roberts | Toledo
12. Jeremy Sprinkle | Arkansas
13. Ricky Seals-Jones | Texas A&M

"OJ Howard is by far my TE #1. I'm glad someone else isn't as high on Leggett."

OT
1. Garrett Bolles | Utah
2. Forrest Lamp | W. Kentucky
3. Cam Robinson | Alabama
4. Ryan Ramczyk | Wisconsin
5. Julie'n Davenport | Bucknell
6. Anthony Garcia | Troy
7. Taylor Moton | W. Michigan
8. Connor McDermott | UCLA
9. David Sharpe*| Florida
10. Rod Johnson* | Florida St

"I think you're too low on Cam Robinson."

OG
1. Forrest Lamp | W. Kentucky
2. Dorian Johnson | Pitt
3. Ryan Ramczyk | Wisconsin
4. Damien Mama**| USC
5. Dan Feeney | Indiana
6. Issac Asiata | Utah
7. Dion Dawkins | Temple
8. Jessamen Dunker | Tennessee St
9. Ethan Pocic | LSU
10. Adam Bisnotawy | Pitt
11. Ben Braden | Michigan

"Looks a lot like my list, minus Dunker who I've never seen play."

OC
1. Pat Elflein | Ohio St
2. Dan Feeney | Indiana
3. Jay Guillermo | Clemson
4. Ethan Pocic | LSU
5. Tyler Orlovsky | West Virginia
6. Cam Tom | Southern Miss

"Also a lot like my C list, except I have Orlosky at the top."

DE
1. Derek Barnett* | Tennessee
2. Myles Garrett* | Texas A&M
3. Charles Harris* | Mizzou
4. Jonathan Allen | Alabama
5. Takkarist McKinley | UCLA
6. Tanoh Kpassangnon | Villanova
7. Chris Wormley | Michigan
8. Demarcus Walker | Florida St
9. Carl Lawson | Auburn
10. Jordan Willis | Kansas St

"Can't imagine Garrett not being the #1 DE. Also think Lawson is too low."

OLB/DE
1. Haason Reddick | Temple
2. Myles Garrett* | Texas A&M
3. Tim Williams | Alabama
4. Takkarist McKinley | UCLA
5. Charles Harris* | Mizzou
6. T.J. Watt* | Wisconsin
8. Derek Barnett* | Tennessee
9. Tarell Bashem | Ohio
10. Vince Biegel | Wisconsin
11. Dawuane Smoot | Illinois

"Reddick over Garrett? Man! Also, you might be sleeping on Smoot a little bit."

DT
1. Solomon Thomas* | Stanford
2. Jonathan Allen | Alabama
3. Malik McDowell* | Michigan St
4. Jaleel Johnson | Iowa
5. Chris Wormley | Michigan
6. Carlos Watkins | Clemson
7. Montravius Adams | Auburn
8. Caleb Brantley* | Florida
9. Lowell Lotulelei* | Uta
10. Elijah Qualls*| Washington
11. Eddie Vanderdoes | UCLA
12. Ryan Glasgow | Michigan
13. Dalvin Tomlinson | Alabama

"Where in the world is Caleb Brantley? Not sure Thomas can play DT full-time."

ILB
1. Jarrad Davis | Florida
2. Kendall Beckwith | LSU
3. Reuben Foster | Alabama
4. Zach Cunningham* | Vanderbilt
5. Haason Reddick | Temple
6. Raekwon McMillan* | Ohio St
7. Anthony Walker | Northwestern
8. Jalen Reeves-Maybin | Tennessee
9. Alex Anzalone*| Florida

"I think you're crazy low on Foster. I do love Davis and Beckwith though. I don't think Jalen Reeves-Maybin is worth drafting."

OLB
1. Reuben Foster | Alabama
2. Jarrad Davis | Florida
3. Zach Cunningham* | Vanderbilt
4. Kendall Beckwith | LSU
5. Haason Reddick | Temple
6. Carroll Phillips | Illinois
7. Anthony Walker | Northwestern
8. Jalen Reeves-Maybin | Tennessee

"Solid list."

CB
1. Sidney Jones* | Washington
2. Jalen Tabor* | Florida
3. Gareon Conley* | OSU
4. Kevin King | Washington
5. Fabian Moreau | UCLA
6. Jourdan Lewis | Michigan
7. Desmond King | Iowa
8. Marshon Lattimore**| OSU
9. Damontae Kazee | San Diego St
10. Quincy Wilson* | Florida
11. Tre'Davious White | LSU
12. Adoree Jackson*| USC
13. Rasul Douglas | W. Virginia
14. Des Lawrence | UNC
15. Marlin Humphrey** | Alabama
16. Obi Melifonwu | UConn

"I think you're way too high on Jones and King and way too low on Humphery and Lattimore especially."

S
1. Jamal Adams* | LSU
2. Desmond King | Iowa
3. Jabrill Peppers* | Michigan
4. Malik Hooker** | OSU
5. Montae Nicholson* | Michigan St
6. Budda Baker | Washington
7. Josh Johnson | Boston College
8. Justin Evans | Texas A&M
9. Obi Melifonwu | UConn
10. Marcus Williams | Utah
11. Dante Barnett | Kansas St
12. Xavier Woods | LA Tech
13. Tedric Thompson | Colorado

"Too low on Hooker IMO."


Overall

1. S Jamal Adams | LSU
2. CB Sidney Jones* | Washington
3. DT Solomon Thomas* | Stanford
4. DT Jonathan Allen | Alabama
5. DE Derek Barnett | Tennessee
6. DE Myles Garrett* | Texas A&M
7. DT Malik McDowell* | Michigan S
8. RB Leonard Fournette* | LSU
9. RB Christian McCaffrey* | Stanford
10. LB Jarrad Davis | Florida
11. DE Charles Harris* | Mizzou
12. CB Jalen Tabor* | Florida
13. CB Gareon Conley* | OSU
14. S Jabrill Peppers* | Michigan
15. CB Kevin King | Washington
16. TE Evan Engram | Ole Miss
17. S Desmond King | Iowa
18. LB Kendall Beckwith | LSU
19. RB Dalvin Cook* | Florida St
20. S Malik Hooker** | Ohio St
21. CB Jourdan Lewis | Michigan
22. WR Mike Williams* | Clemson
23. LB Reuben Foster | Alabama
24. OT Garrett Bolles | Utah
25. WR John Ross | Washington
26. LB Zach Cunningham* | Vanderbilt
27. LB Haason Reddick | Temple
28. OT Forrest Lamp | W.Kentucky
29. TE David Njoku*| Miami
30. OC Pat Elflein | Ohio St
31. QB Mitch Trubisky | North Carolina
32. DT Jaleel Johnson | Iowa
33. RB Joe Williams | Utah
34. OT Ryan Ramczyk | Wisconsin
35. DE Tanoh Kpassangnon | Villanova
36. RB Marlon Mack*| South Florida
37. CB Fabian Moreau | UCLA
38. DT Chris Wormley | Michigan
39. OG Dorian Johnson | Pitt
40. DE Takkarist McKinley | UCLA
41. CB Marshon Lattimore**| OSU
42. CB Damontae Kazee | San Diego St
43. OG Damien Mama**| USC
44. CB Quincy Wilson* | Florida
45. DT Carlos Watkins | Clemson
46. OLB T.J. Watt* | Wisconsin
47. TE O.J. Howard | Alabama
48. QB Patrick Mahomes* | Texas Tech
49. CB Tre'Davious White | LSU
50. WR Amba Etta Tawo | Syracuse
51. WR Corey Davis | W. Michigan
52. S Montae Nicholson* | Michigan St
53. S Budda Baker | Washington
54. CB/R Adoree Jackson*| USC
55. CB Rasul Douglas | W. Virginia
56. LB Raekwon McMillan* | Ohio St
57. DT Montravius Adams | Auburn
58. OLB Carroll Phillips | Illinois
59. CB Des Lawrence | UNC
60. TE Bucky Hodges | Virginia Tech

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Appreciate the epic reply Bleed.

Quote:
OLB Myles Garrett - Chris Clemons
"ermm...what now? This is obnoxious."

He plays like a smaller stand up OLB despite his measurables. Simple as that.

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S Jamal Adams - taller Earl Thomas
"Schwat? Malik Hooker is more Earl Thomas than Adams. Adams is closer to Landon Collins or Adrian Wilson. SS."

Adams is a former CB and still plays and looks like it imo. Collins and Wilson were basically athletic LBs.

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QB Deshaun Watson - poor man's Cam Newton
"Not close. Zero of his skills are close to Cam. He's like late in his career McNabb if anything."

If Watson were 6'5 he'd be a Newton clone. He's a tough runner and its a big part of his game. He can make all the throws although doesn't quite have the power arm of Newton. He's a clutch winner who'll have to make the same transition to a pro offense.

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WR Mike Williams - Amani Toomer
"Williams is a much better player than Toomer. Williams has deep speed and an elite catch radius."

Williams has been my #1 WR since before the season but I don't think he has deep speed.

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LB Zach Cunningham - Tahir Whitehead
"Yeah."

Don't like that one anymore. Going with Daryl Washington.

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QB Patrick Mahomes - an air raid Matt Stafford
"Mahomes has fake arm strength. That wind up rifle shot. Stafford can flick the wrist and make it fly."

"Fake arm strength" What does that mean?
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[quote="BleedTheClock"]
BrownLeader wrote:
Post senior week practice rankings

"Reddick over Garrett? Man! Also, you might be sleeping on Smoot a little bit."


That was a little post senior week giddiness. I do like Reddick's range and motor a lot more but Garrett is still the #1 hybrid guy for now.
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BleedTheClock is still doing that thing where he quotes his own original statements. So weird. Laughing
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CalhounLambeau wrote:
BleedTheClock is still doing that thing where he quotes his own original statements. So weird. Laughing


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As for the "fake arm strength" comment...I guess what I mean by that is this:

Mahomes doesn't have the flick of the wrist arm strength. He needs to take that long wind up to rip the football down the field. He can rip it with a set pocket and time to get it out, but I don't see him making those "wow" throws that Stafford can make. Stafford can throw 50 yards on the run from awkward angles. I don't think Mahomes can do that. Not saying his arm is weak, but it's not like Staffords. His arm is still above average, but Stafford has a rocket launcher and can flick his wrist & have the ball go flying.
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[quote="BrownLeader"]
CB
1. Sidney Jones* | Washington
2. Jalen Tabor* | Florida
3. Gareon Conley* | OSU
4. Kevin King | Washington
5. Fabian Moreau | UCLA
6. Jourdan Lewis | Michigan
7. Desmond King | Iowa
8. Marshon Lattimore**| OSU
9. Damontae Kazee | San Diego St
10. Quincy Wilson* | Florida
11. Tre'Davious White | LSU
12. Adoree Jackson*| USC
13. Rasul Douglas | W. Virginia
14. Des Lawrence | UNC
15. Marlin Humphrey** | Alabama
16. Obi Melifonwu | UConn

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Where is Cordrea Tankersley ? Have I missed something?
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