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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 5:11 pm    Post subject: BrownLeader 2017 Positional Rankings Reply with quote

Greetings! Sharing my rankings for your scrutiny. I haven't posted much on this board since I joined so I figured I'd also give some links to quick recaps of my past rankings. Shoot any questions our disagreements at me; I can literally talk football all day. And it helps me sort my armchair eyes.

*Starting to buck my traditional anti-modernization and joined twitter. Find me @SonAdam634
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BL Draft Positional Rankings

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BL Positional Rankings 3/13/17


QB
1. Mitch Trubisky* | UNC
2. Patrick Mahomes* | Texas Tech
3. Deshaun Watson* | Clemson
4. Deshone Kizer** | Notre Dame
5. Nate Peterman | Pitt
6. Chad Kelly | Ole Miss
7. C.J. Beathard | Iowa
8. Brad Kaaya* | Miami
9. Davis Webb | California

RB
1. Leonard Fournette* | LSU
2. Christian McCaffrey* | Stanford
3. Joe Mixon** | Oklahoma
4. Dalvin Cook* | Florida St
5. Joe Williams | Utah
6. Marlon Mack* | South Florida
7. Kareem Hunt | Toledo
8. Jamaal Wiliiams |RB| BYU
9. James Conner | Pittsburgh
10. Matt Dayes | NC State
11. Donta Foreman* | Texas
12. Jeremy McNichols | Boise St
13. Samaje Perine | Oklahoma

WR
1. Mike Williams* | Clemson
2. Josh Reynolds | Texas A&M
3. John Ross | Washington
4. Amba Etta Tawo | Syracuse
5. Corey Davis | W. Michigan
6. Zay Jones | E. Carolina
7. Taywan Taylor | W. Kentucky
8. Rodney Adams | South Florida
9. Cooper Kupp | E. Washington
10. Dede Westbrook | Oklahoma
11. Amara Darboh | Michigan
12. Damore'ea Stringfellow* | Ole Miss


TE
1. Evan Engram | Ole Miss
2. David Njoku*| Miami
3. O.J. Howard | Alabama
4. Bucky Hodges | Virginia Tech
5. Gerald Everett | S. Alabama
6. Jake Butt | Michigan
7. Scott Orndoff | Pitt
8. Jonnu Smith | FIU
9. Jordan Leggett | Clemson
10. Cethan Carter | Nebraska
11. Michael Roberts | Toledo
12. Jeremy Sprinkle | Arkansas
13. Ricky Seals-Jones | Texas A&M

OT
1. Garrett Bolles | Utah
2. Forrest Lamp | W. Kentucky
3. Cam Robinson | Alabama
4. Ryan Ramczyk | Wisconsin
5. Anthony Garcia | Troy
6. Julie'n Davenport | Bucknell
7. Taylor Moton | W. Michigan
8. Connor McDermott | UCLA
9. David Sharpe*| Florida
10. Rod Johnson* | Florida St

OG
1. Forrest Lamp | W. Kentucky
2. Dorian Johnson | Pitt
3. Ryan Ramczyk | Wisconsin
4. Damien Mama**| USC
5. Dan Feeney | Indiana
6. Issac Asiata | Utah
7. Jessamen Dunker | Tennessee St
8. Dion Dawkins | Temple
9. Ethan Pocic | LSU
10. Adam Bisnotawy | Pitt
11. Ben Braden | Michigan

OC
1. Pat Elflein | Ohio St
2. Dan Feeney | Indiana
3. Jay Guillermo | Clemson
4. Ethan Pocic | LSU
5. Tyler Orlovsky | West Virginia
6. Cam Tom | Southern Miss

DE
1. Derek Barnett* | Tennessee
2. Myles Garrett* | Texas A&M
3. Charles Harris* | Mizzou
4. Jonathan Allen | Alabama
5. Takkarist McKinley | UCLA
6. Jordan Willis | Kansas St
7. Tanoh Kpassangnon | Villanova
8. Chris Wormley | Michigan
9. Demarcus Walker | Florida St
10. Carl Lawson | Auburn

DE (34)
1. Jonathan Allen | Alabama
2. Tanoh Kpassagnon | Villanova
3. Chris Wormley | Michigan
4. Taco Charlton | Michigan
5. Dalvin Tomlinson | Alabama
6. Carlos Watkins | Clemson
7. Ryan Glasgow | Michigan
8. Ike Rochelle | Notre Dame

DE/OLB
1. Myles Garrett* | Texas A&M
2. Haason Reddick | Temple
3. Charles Harris* | Mizzou
4. Takkarist McKinley | UCLA
5. T.J. Watt* | Wisconsin
6. Carroll Phillips | Illinois
7. Derek Rivers | Youngstown St
8. Tyus Bowser | Houston
9. Derek Barnett* | Tennessee
10. Tim Williams | Alabama
11. Tarell Bashem | Ohio
12. Vince Biegel | Wisconsin
13. Dawuane Smoot | Illinois

DT
1. Solomon Thomas* | Stanford
2. Jonathan Allen | Alabama
3. Malik McDowell* | Michigan St
4. Jaleel Johnson | Iowa
5. Chris Wormley | Michigan
6. Carlos Watkins | Clemson
7. Montravius Adams | Auburn
8. Caleb Brantley* | Florida
9. Larry Ogunjobi | Charlotte
10. Eddie Vanderdoes | UCLA
11. Elijah Qualls*| Washington
12. Ryan Glasgow | Michigan
13. Dalvin Tomlinson | Alabama

ILB
1. Jarrad Davis | Florida
2. Kendall Beckwith | LSU
3. Reuben Foster | Alabama
4. Zach Cunningham* | Vanderbilt
5. Haason Reddick | Temple
6. Raekwon McMillan* | Ohio St
7. Anthony Walker | Northwestern
8. Jalen Reeves-Maybin | Tennessee
9. Alex Anzalone*| Florida

OLB
1. Haason Reddick | Temple
2. Reuben Foster | Alabama
3. Jarrad Davis | Florida
4. Zach Cunningham* | Vanderbilt
5. Kendall Beckwith | LSU
6. Carroll Phillips | Illinois
7. Anthony Walker | Northwestern
8. Jalen Reeves-Maybin | Tennessee

CB
1. Gareon Conley* | OSU
2. Kevin King | Washington
3. Damontae Kazee | San Diego St
4. Fabian Moreau | UCLA
5. Jourdan Lewis | Michigan
6. Marshon Lattimore**| OSU
7. Quincy Wilson* | Florida
8. Desmond King | Iowa
9. Des Lawrence | UNC
10. Tre'Davious White | LSU
11. Jalen Tabor* | Florida
12. Athkello Witherspoon | Colorado
13. Adoree Jackson*| USC
14. Obi Melifonwu | UConn
15. Chidobe Awuzie | Colorado

S
1. Jamal Adams* | LSU
2. Desmond King | Iowa
3. Jabrill Peppers* | Michigan
4. Malik Hooker** | OSU
5. Montae Nicholson* | Michigan St
6. Budda Baker | Washington
7. Rasul Douglas | W. Virginia
8. Marlin Humphrey** | Alabama
9. Josh Johnson | Boston College
10. Justin Evans | Texas A&M
11. Tedric Thompson | Colorado
12. Obi Melifonwu | UConn
13. Marcus Williams | Utah
14. Dante Barnett | Kansas St
15. Xavier Woods | LA Tech


Overall

1. DT Solomon Thomas* | Stanford
2. S Jamal Adams | LSU
3. DE Derek Barnett | Tennessee
4. DT Jonathan Allen | Alabama
5. OLB/DE Myles Garrett* | Texas A&M
6. OLB/DE Haason Reddick | Temple
7. DT Malik McDowell* | Michigan S
8. RB Leonard Fournette* | LSU
9. RB Christian McCaffrey* | Stanford
10. LB Jarrad Davis | Florida
11. CB Gareon Conley* | OSU
12. CB Kevin King | Washington
13. TE Evan Engram | Ole Miss
14. DE/OLB Charles Harris* | Mizzou
15. S Jabrill Peppers* | Michigan
16. S Desmond King | Iowa
17. LB Kendall Beckwith | LSU
18. S Malik Hooker** | Ohio St
19. WR Mike Williams* | Clemson
20. LB Reuben Foster | Alabama
21. OT Garrett Bolles | Utah
22. OT/OG Forrest Lamp | W.Kentucky
23. WR Josh Reynolds | Texas A&M
24. WR John Ross | Washington
25. LB Zach Cunningham* | Vanderbilt
26. TE David Njoku*| Miami
27. OC Pat Elflein | Ohio St
28. TE O.J. Howard | Alabama
29. QB Mitch Trubisky | North Carolina
30. DT Jaleel Johnson | Iowa
31. RB Joe Mixon | Oklahoma
32. CB Damontae Kazee | San Diego St
33. RB Dalvin Cook* | Florida St
34. RB Joe Williams | Utah
35. DE Jordan Willis | Kansas St
36. DE Tanoh Kpassangnon | Villanova
37. RB Marlon Mack*| South Florida
38. CB Fabian Moreau | UCLA
39. DT Chris Wormley | Michigan
40. OG Dorian Johnson | Pitt
41. DE/OLB Takkarist McKinley | UCLA
42. CB Jourdan Lewis | Michigan
43. CB Marshon Lattimore**| OSU
44. OG Damien Mama**| USC
45. CB Quincy Wilson* | Florida
46. OLB T.J. Watt* | Wisconsin
47. QB Patrick Mahomes* | Texas Tech
48. CB Des Lawrence | UNC
49. CB Tre'Davious White | LSU
50. WR Amba Etta Tawo | Syracuse
51. WR Corey Davis | W. Michigan
52. S Montae Nicholson* | Michigan St
53. S Budda Baker | Washington
54. CB/R Adoree Jackson*| USC
55. LB Raekwon McMillan* | Ohio St
56. OG/OC Dan Feeney | Indiana
57. WR Zay Jones | E. Carolina
58. OT Ryan Ramczyk | Wisconsin
59. DE Taco Charlton | Michigan
60. OLB Carroll Phillips | Illinois
61. TE Bucky Hodges | Virginia Tech
62. RB Kareem Hunt | Toledo
63. CB Jalen Tabor* | Florida
64. CB Athkello Witherspoon | Colorado
65. OT Cam Robinson | Alabama
66. OT Anthony Garcia | Troy
67. CB Chidobe Awuzie | Colorado
68. DT Carlos Watkins | Clemson
69. DT Montravius Adams | Auburn
70. DT Caleb Brantley | Florida
71. OLB Tyus Bowser | Houston
72. S Marlon Humphrey | Alabama
73. OG Jessamen Dunker | Tennessee St
74. WR Taywan Taylor | W. Kentucky
75. TE Gerald Everett | S. Alabama
76. OG Issac Asiata | Utah
77. WR Rodney Adams | South Florida
78. OG Dion Dawkins | Temple
79. WR Cooper Kupp | E. Washington
80. TE Jonnu Smith | FIU
81. CB Obi Melifonwu | UConn
82. OG Tyler Moton | W.Michigan
83. RB John Conner | Pittsburgh
84. DT Larry Ogunjobi | Charlotte
85. Josh Johnson | Boston College
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No JuJu???
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Kaaya...
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And Jalen Reeves-Mabin is not a first 3 rounds guy.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BleedTheClock wrote:
And Jalen Reeves-Mabin is not a first 3 rounds guy.

With an argument like that who would disagree.
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clyde_carbon wrote:
No JuJu???

I think he's overrated and this is a fairly deep class. I'm also increasingly leery of those SC WRs. He looks like a man among boys but doesn't always play like it. He can be out quicked in his routes, beaten to the catch point in the air, and run down.
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BleedTheClock wrote:
Kaaya...

I see a slower E.J. Manuel whenever I watch him. I'm genuinely unsure what people are seeing there.
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BrownLeader wrote:
BleedTheClock wrote:
Kaaya...

I see a slower E.J. Manuel whenever I watch him. I'm genuinely unsure what people are seeing there.



A big pocket passing QB that makes checks at the LOS. Brilliant kid that has pretty good accuracy and a good enough arm to make every throw. Makes throws at every level of the field. He's a very safe prospect. Is his ceiling as high as others? No, but he has a very low floor. He's going to come in and man someone's starting QB job for 10-15 years. Keep in mind he was coached by a freaking buffoon for his first two seasons and still looked very good. He's a very good cerebral QB that puts the ball where it needs to be routinely. Chain moving guy that will keep your offense on schedule. A bit of a game manager, but I'm not so sure why that's a bad thing.

I want to wipe my butt with that EJ Manuel comparison. Not sure where that comp came from.



Jalen Reeves-Mabin is very small, doesn't play in the box, and can't handle taking on blocks. He has a shot to be a very good Nickel LB, but those kinds of guys grow on trees. He's easily washed out against power runs and is only really useful as that cleanup defender scraping over the top. Is he productive? Yep. Does he make splash plays? Sure. But he does not consistently execute and doesn't have the violence to play LB in a traditional defensive front. And let's talk about his coverage. He's not terrible, but he is most definitely not someone that I'd say locks down slot receivers. I don't see any place for him in the top 2 rounds. I guess round 3 wouldn't be CRAZY, but I just don't like him at all. He seems like a great player to combat spread offenses in college. Terrible fit for an NFL defense, where he'll have to stop the run vs. heavy fronts. And if he's only a nickel linebacker, it's a waste of a valuable draft pick.

I'll put my reputation on JRM becoming a nothing player in the NFL.
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Malik Hooker?

I would love for him to return, but I don't think he will.
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Watch Cooper Rush? He played really well against Oklahoma State this year I thought.
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BleedTheClock wrote:
BrownLeader wrote:
BleedTheClock wrote:
Kaaya...

I see a slower E.J. Manuel whenever I watch him. I'm genuinely unsure what people are seeing there.



A big pocket passing QB that makes checks at the LOS. Brilliant kid that has pretty good accuracy and a good enough arm to make every throw. Makes throws at every level of the field. He's a very safe prospect. Is his ceiling as high as others? No, but he has a very low floor. He's going to come in and man someone's starting QB job for 10-15 years. Keep in mind he was coached by a freaking buffoon for his first two seasons and still looked very good. He's a very good cerebral QB that puts the ball where it needs to be routinely. Chain moving guy that will keep your offense on schedule. A bit of a game manager, but I'm not so sure why that's a bad thing.

I want to wipe my butt with that EJ Manuel comparison. Not sure where that comp came from.



Jalen Reeves-Mabin is very small, doesn't play in the box, and can't handle taking on blocks. He has a shot to be a very good Nickel LB, but those kinds of guys grow on trees. He's easily washed out against power runs and is only really useful as that cleanup defender scraping over the top. Is he productive? Yep. Does he make splash plays? Sure. But he does not consistently execute and doesn't have the violence to play LB in a traditional defensive front. And let's talk about his coverage. He's not terrible, but he is most definitely not someone that I'd say locks down slot receivers. I don't see any place for him in the top 2 rounds. I guess round 3 wouldn't be CRAZY, but I just don't like him at all. He seems like a great player to combat spread offenses in college. Terrible fit for an NFL defense, where he'll have to stop the run vs. heavy fronts. And if he's only a nickel linebacker, it's a waste of a valuable draft pick.

I'll put my reputation on JRM becoming a nothing player in the NFL.

Took a longer look at Kaaya and you're right, slower Manuel is an awful comp. He's more Ricki Stanzi. Good game manger and I agree he can threaten all levels. But his WTH throws are frequent and everything is very deliberate with him. From his drop to delivery. He's basically a stationary college game manager. Not too many of those do much of anything in the NFL, let alone start for a decade.

Reeves-Maybin is small but he's more consistently physical and willing to take on blocks then 250lb Kendall Beckwith. I don't think he'll be a star but he's something like a more physical Panther's Shaq Thompson. Probably not quite the athlete but the same type of LB.
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Jason_Bengal_Fl wrote:
Malik Hooker?

I would love for him to return, but I don't think he will.

Haven't watched him enough to rank him yet. But the hype Matt Millen was laying on him last game was a little much. I'm skeptical.
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Lions017 wrote:
Watch Cooper Rush? He played really well against Oklahoma State this year I thought.

I've seen a few games including that one and I'm not really a fan. Pedestrian arm strength, average size and mobility, deliberate drop. He's a functionally sound QB and has some clutch in him but doesn't look like an NFL starter to me.
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Which position group do you expect to see the biggest flux?

Could the Trubisky hype push him significantly higher if he continues to lead NC like the previous weeks?
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lark25 wrote:
Which position group do you expect to see the biggest flux?

Could the Trubisky hype push him significantly higher if he continues to lead NC like the previous weeks?

WR postion. Whole bunch of depth and not clear separation between them. After that maybe OTs and LBs.

First take, Trubisky looked to me like an athlete playing QB. But I thought the same of Dak Prescott when I first saw him. Prescott kept throwing and throwing and eventually started looking like a more natural QB. I think Trubisky could do the same but he needs experience.
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