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jetjuice


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rickyt31 wrote:
Tru is a hard QB for me to figure out. He doesn't give enough to tell if he's going to be bad or great as a QB. As of right now, I wouldn't hate the pick. I wouldn't know how I would feel honestly. He could be Brady Quinn or Eli Manning (Just stronger and faster version).

The truth is, we don't know how ready Tru could be. Dak, Wilson, Carr, and others weren't supposed to be ready year 1. It's all up to them. I'm still on the Tyrod wagon, but if we miss out on the good names, I wouldn't be mad.

Here's what I see when I see Trubisky

- Live arm; can make any throw on the field and loves taking deep shots. Better accuracy than Watson & Kizer. Might be a good match for our speed receivers. This is my favorite part of his game. Underrated arm strength

- Calm and composed in the pocket, doesn't have Blaine Gabbert syndrome, who I like using as an example because I've never seen a QB so bad at dealing with pressure

- Athletic enough to extend the play and keep the defense honest

- Don't like his release. It's a bit too long I feel. Haven't watched enough of him to comment on his footwork.

Overall, I love his game, and the only downside on his resume other than his release is his lack of experience. Still need to watch more of him but so far I like what I see.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JetFanSince85 wrote:
Was it me, or wa sim Williams invisable last night ?

Tim Williams? I thought the same thing. I thought Foster stood out tremendously, might be the best player on that defense.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Was it me, or wa sim Williams invisable last night ?
He was
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do we get Myles Garrett @ 6?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How do we get Myles Garrett @ 6?


Browns, 49ers and Bears go QB

Jags go O-Line or Jonathan Allen

Titans go Safety or Jonathan Allen

Jets draft Garrett

Or Garrett has a Tunsil type incident along with underwhelming combine and we draft him anyway.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KingOfTheDot wrote:
Bianconero wrote:
How do we get Myles Garrett @ 6?


Browns, 49ers and Bears go QB

Jags go O-Line or Jonathan Allen

Titans go Safety or Jonathan Allen

Jets draft Garrett

Or Garrett has a Tunsil type incident along with underwhelming combine and we draft him anyway.

Hit thay marijuana mask up Garrett.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bobby816 wrote:
KingOfTheDot wrote:
Bianconero wrote:
How do we get Myles Garrett @ 6?


Browns, 49ers and Bears go QB

Jags go O-Line or Jonathan Allen

Titans go Safety or Jonathan Allen

Jets draft Garrett

Or Garrett has a Tunsil type incident along with underwhelming combine and we draft him anyway.

Hit thay marijuana mask up Garrett.
Let's make it happen
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trubisky is from just outside Cleveland. Good chance he can go 1st ALA Goff
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jetjuice wrote:
JetFanSince85 wrote:
Was it me, or wa sim Williams invisable last night ?

Tim Williams? I thought the same thing. I thought Foster stood out tremendously, might be the best player on that defense.


Yeah Sorry.

I like Foster, but is he worth the 6th pick ? I don't see Luke Kuchly in him
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After last night, my gut says someone will take Deshaun top 3. The question is if the Jets would seriously consider taking Trubisky at 6. My gut says they would, but we'll see.


Both picks would be very stupid. Neither of these guys are first round talents and especially not top 5 or top 10. I think they both have a lot of potential but I wouldnt spend a first round pick that high on either. If the Jets like Trubisky they should look to move down if possible. We cant afford to gamble on him at 6. Hed be a day 2-3 pick if it werent for a weak class.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ekill08x wrote:
barnaby8787 wrote:
After last night, my gut says someone will take Deshaun top 3. The question is if the Jets would seriously consider taking Trubisky at 6. My gut says they would, but we'll see.


Both picks would be very stupid. Neither of these guys are first round talents and especially not top 5 or top 10. I think they both have a lot of potential but I wouldnt spend a first round pick that high on either. If the Jets like Trubisky they should look to move down if possible. We cant afford to gamble on him at 6. Hed be a day 2-3 pick if it werent for a weak class.


I'm starting to think neither of them will make it to us. I would never trade up to get either but if Watson or Trubisky falls to us I think we have to pull the trigger. We have been without a QB for... my entire life, unless you count the small stints with Pennington, Vinny, and Favre. Tons of first round picks don't work out, i would rather miss on a first round pick trying to get a QB, than any other position.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rampantjet wrote:
ekill08x wrote:
barnaby8787 wrote:
After last night, my gut says someone will take Deshaun top 3. The question is if the Jets would seriously consider taking Trubisky at 6. My gut says they would, but we'll see.


Both picks would be very stupid. Neither of these guys are first round talents and especially not top 5 or top 10. I think they both have a lot of potential but I wouldnt spend a first round pick that high on either. If the Jets like Trubisky they should look to move down if possible. We cant afford to gamble on him at 6. Hed be a day 2-3 pick if it werent for a weak class.


I'm starting to think neither of them will make it to us. I would never trade up to get either but if Watson or Trubisky falls to us I think we have to pull the trigger. We have been without a QB for... my entire life, unless you count the small stints with Pennington, Vinny, and Favre. Tons of first round picks don't work out, i would rather miss on a first round pick trying to get a QB, than any other position.

Watson is going to be good IMO but I don't think he's what we want in a QB also I think Cleveland pulls the trigger on him.

Also Trubisky is fools gold to me. Just don't love what I see of him. I always view players as to what they can become if their potential is reached and I just don't see much in him. But I don't get paid for this lol.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KingOfTheDot wrote:
rampantjet wrote:
ekill08x wrote:
barnaby8787 wrote:
After last night, my gut says someone will take Deshaun top 3. The question is if the Jets would seriously consider taking Trubisky at 6. My gut says they would, but we'll see.


Both picks would be very stupid. Neither of these guys are first round talents and especially not top 5 or top 10. I think they both have a lot of potential but I wouldnt spend a first round pick that high on either. If the Jets like Trubisky they should look to move down if possible. We cant afford to gamble on him at 6. Hed be a day 2-3 pick if it werent for a weak class.


I'm starting to think neither of them will make it to us. I would never trade up to get either but if Watson or Trubisky falls to us I think we have to pull the trigger. We have been without a QB for... my entire life, unless you count the small stints with Pennington, Vinny, and Favre. Tons of first round picks don't work out, i would rather miss on a first round pick trying to get a QB, than any other position.

Watson is going to be good IMO but I don't think he's what we want in a QB also I think Cleveland pulls the trigger on him.

Also Trubisky is fools gold to me. Just don't love what I see of him. I always view players as to what they can become if their potential is reached and I just don't see much in him. But I don't get paid for this lol.

I'm just worried that if we pick up Trubisky that we're going to be forced to start him - and I think he's less prepared to start in the NFL than a guy like Watson or probably half the guys that will be left on the board to pick from. I'd be more comfortable with scooping Kizer in the 2nd if he falls.
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NJerseypaint wrote:
KingOfTheDot wrote:
rampantjet wrote:
ekill08x wrote:
barnaby8787 wrote:
After last night, my gut says someone will take Deshaun top 3. The question is if the Jets would seriously consider taking Trubisky at 6. My gut says they would, but we'll see.


Both picks would be very stupid. Neither of these guys are first round talents and especially not top 5 or top 10. I think they both have a lot of potential but I wouldnt spend a first round pick that high on either. If the Jets like Trubisky they should look to move down if possible. We cant afford to gamble on him at 6. Hed be a day 2-3 pick if it werent for a weak class.


I'm starting to think neither of them will make it to us. I would never trade up to get either but if Watson or Trubisky falls to us I think we have to pull the trigger. We have been without a QB for... my entire life, unless you count the small stints with Pennington, Vinny, and Favre. Tons of first round picks don't work out, i would rather miss on a first round pick trying to get a QB, than any other position.

Watson is going to be good IMO but I don't think he's what we want in a QB also I think Cleveland pulls the trigger on him.

Also Trubisky is fools gold to me. Just don't love what I see of him. I always view players as to what they can become if their potential is reached and I just don't see much in him. But I don't get paid for this lol.

I'm just worried that if we pick up Trubisky that we're going to be forced to start him - and I think he's less prepared to start in the NFL than a guy like Watson or probably half the guys that will be left on the board to pick from. I'd be more comfortable with scooping Kizer in the 2nd if he falls.

Funny thing is people assume we are ALL IN on Hack and are pressured to throw him into the fire imagine a first round, unproven QB.

Also Kizer no way, stay far away from the green and white please.

I'd be willing to go QB in the mid rounds but right now I think we need to let the 2 we have develop the next season and see what they have. We can keep bringing in QBs but if they don't get reps or the development they need how will we know what we have.
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If we are tied to Hack then everyone should be fire, including the concession guys. However, if we aren't in a position to get a QB we like in the draft, then I am all in favor of just starting Hack. I am sick and tired old stop gap QB's who get us 5-8 useless stupid wins.

Play Hack, and he either starts learning and thrives (doubtful), or we end up with a top 3 pick in a draft that is supposed to have very good QB's (I'll believe it when i see, so many classes are supposed to be great).
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