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Jeezy Fanatic wrote:
Njoku in the first, the Tech tight end in the second. Then a rookie QB in the third who has the 3 best security blankets in the league.
Do these TEs play defense?
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Utah S Marcus Williams looks great. My fear that he looks too good and doesn't make it to our 2nd round pick.
I like Buddha Baker from Washington.


I like him as well, but he is just too small for my likings. Williams not only has the measurables, but also showed out at the combine and has the game tape.
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A TRAIN 89 wrote:
MKnight82 wrote:
A TRAIN 89 wrote:
Utah S Marcus Williams looks great. My fear that he looks too good and doesn't make it to our 2nd round pick.
I like Buddha Baker from Washington.


I like him as well, but he is just too small for my likings. Williams not only has the measurables, but also showed out at the combine and has the game tape.
Budda Baker, 5'10" 195 lbs:

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/budda-baker?id=2558009

Earl Thomas, 5'10" 208 lbs:

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/earl-thomas?id=496745

Tyrann Mathieu, 5'9", 186 lbs:

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/tyrann-mathieu?id=2540180

Size doesn't really matter for a primarily deep range safety.
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MKnight82 wrote:
A TRAIN 89 wrote:
MKnight82 wrote:
A TRAIN 89 wrote:
Utah S Marcus Williams looks great. My fear that he looks too good and doesn't make it to our 2nd round pick.
I like Buddha Baker from Washington.


I like him as well, but he is just too small for my likings. Williams not only has the measurables, but also showed out at the combine and has the game tape.
Budda Baker, 5'10" 195 lbs:

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/budda-baker?id=2558009

Earl Thomas, 5'10" 208 lbs:

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/earl-thomas?id=496745

Tyrann Mathieu, 5'9", 186 lbs:

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/tyrann-mathieu?id=2540180

Size doesn't really matter for a primarily deep range safety.


Hey, I'll take either of them at this point. Can't keep trotting out 30+ converted corners or overpaid special team-level guys.
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A TRAIN 89 wrote:
MKnight82 wrote:
A TRAIN 89 wrote:
MKnight82 wrote:
A TRAIN 89 wrote:
Utah S Marcus Williams looks great. My fear that he looks too good and doesn't make it to our 2nd round pick.
I like Buddha Baker from Washington.


I like him as well, but he is just too small for my likings. Williams not only has the measurables, but also showed out at the combine and has the game tape.
Budda Baker, 5'10" 195 lbs:

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/budda-baker?id=2558009

Earl Thomas, 5'10" 208 lbs:

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/earl-thomas?id=496745

Tyrann Mathieu, 5'9", 186 lbs:

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/tyrann-mathieu?id=2540180

Size doesn't really matter for a primarily deep range safety.


Hey, I'll take either of them at this point. Can't keep trotting out 30+ converted corners or overpaid special team-level guys.
I think Baker has more athleticism and more upside, whereas Williams had better production in college and probably has the higher floor, but not quite the ceiling Baker has. I also think Baker can come up and play the slot, whereas what I've read about Williams is that he's primarily a zone deep cover safety only. I don't hate Williams I'd just rather swing for the fences personally. I see the merit in taking Williams.
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If we lose Jackson/Garcon 1 or both. I wouldn't be opposed to drafting Zay Jones or Chris Godwin. They look like players who I wouldn't mind in Burgundy/Gold.
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Bleacher Report Mock thinks John Allen's shoulder injury will make him fall all the way to 17:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2696408-2017-nfl-mock-draft-matt-millers-post-combine-projections

It wasn't that long ago when Jonathan Allen was being talked about as a potential top-three pick. Then concerns were raised in conversations with scouts about shoulder injuries and arthritis. Allen also wasn't helped by a bench press of just 21 reps—something that only opened up more questions about the condition of his shoulders.

Because of injury, scouts have told me Allen could see a draft-day fall. If that happens, Washington is an ideal team to stop his slide and plug him right in to the defensive line.

Allen is a truly special player if you can get over the injuries and the perception that Alabama players are maxed out when drafted. Sure, he may have had better coaching at Alabama than he'll ever see in the NFL, but even if Allen never gets better as a pro, he's a 10-year starter when healthy.
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MKnight82 wrote:
Bleacher Report Mock thinks John Allen's shoulder injury will make him fall all the way to 17:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2696408-2017-nfl-mock-draft-matt-millers-post-combine-projections

It wasn't that long ago when Jonathan Allen was being talked about as a potential top-three pick. Then concerns were raised in conversations with scouts about shoulder injuries and arthritis. Allen also wasn't helped by a bench press of just 21 reps—something that only opened up more questions about the condition of his shoulders.

Because of injury, scouts have told me Allen could see a draft-day fall. If that happens, Washington is an ideal team to stop his slide and plug him right in to the defensive line.

Allen is a truly special player if you can get over the injuries and the perception that Alabama players are maxed out when drafted. Sure, he may have had better coaching at Alabama than he'll ever see in the NFL, but even if Allen never gets better as a pro, he's a 10-year starter when healthy.


This might make me pass on him
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MKnight82 wrote:
A TRAIN 89 wrote:
MKnight82 wrote:
A TRAIN 89 wrote:
Utah S Marcus Williams looks great. My fear that he looks too good and doesn't make it to our 2nd round pick.
I like Buddha Baker from Washington.


I like him as well, but he is just too small for my likings. Williams not only has the measurables, but also showed out at the combine and has the game tape.
Budda Baker, 5'10" 195 lbs:

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/budda-baker?id=2558009

Earl Thomas, 5'10" 208 lbs:

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/earl-thomas?id=496745

Tyrann Mathieu, 5'9", 186 lbs:

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/tyrann-mathieu?id=2540180

Size doesn't really matter for a primarily deep range safety.
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Thaiphoon wrote:
MKnight82 wrote:
Bleacher Report Mock thinks John Allen's shoulder injury will make him fall all the way to 17:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2696408-2017-nfl-mock-draft-matt-millers-post-combine-projections

It wasn't that long ago when Jonathan Allen was being talked about as a potential top-three pick. Then concerns were raised in conversations with scouts about shoulder injuries and arthritis. Allen also wasn't helped by a bench press of just 21 reps—something that only opened up more questions about the condition of his shoulders.

Because of injury, scouts have told me Allen could see a draft-day fall. If that happens, Washington is an ideal team to stop his slide and plug him right in to the defensive line.

Allen is a truly special player if you can get over the injuries and the perception that Alabama players are maxed out when drafted. Sure, he may have had better coaching at Alabama than he'll ever see in the NFL, but even if Allen never gets better as a pro, he's a 10-year starter when healthy.


This might make me pass on him
Not me. People said Leonard Williams had shoulder issues and that's part of the reason why he fell, I think he's done just fine since he was drafted.
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If we lose Jackson/Garcon 1 or both. I wouldn't be opposed to drafting Zay Jones or Chris Godwin. They look like players who I wouldn't mind in Burgundy/Gold.
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Round 1 Pick 17: Zach Cunningham, OLB/ILB, Vanderbilt (B)
Round 2 Pick 17: Carlos Watkins, DT, Clemson (A-)
Round 3 Pick 26 (SEA): Chris Godwin, WR, Penn State (A)
Round 3 Pick 38 (SEA): Wayne Gallman, RB, Clemson (B)
Round 4 Pick 14 (IND): Justin Evans, SS, Texas A&M (A-)
Round 4 Pick 17: Carl Lawson, OLB, Auburn
Round 4 Pick 37 (IND): DeAngelo Brown, DT, Louisville (C)
Round 5 Pick 17: Isaac Asiata, OG, Utah (A)
Round 5 Pick 22 (MIA): Ejuan Price, OLB, Pittsburgh (B+)
Round 5 Pick 34 (MIA): Josh Malone, WR, Tennessee (C+)
Round 5 Pick 40 (MIA): Demetrious Cox, FS, Michigan State (D+)
Round 7 Pick 2: Nate Hairston, CB, Temple (B-)
Round 7 Pick 5 (MIA): Stevie Tu'ikolovatu, DT, Southern California (C-)
Round 7 Pick 17: Cole Croston, OT, Iowa (C)
Round 7 Pick 30: Josiah Price, TE, Michigan State
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Washington's Budda Baker said the [TORN ACHILLES] injury to Sidney Jones occurred on the last defensive back drill of the day.
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IMO, With the moves we have made in Free Agency, I think our first pick should be LB. Most people in the Forum who want a LB in the 1st Rd, want Z Cunningham. I would choose H Reddick who is more versatile and more stout. He can play the run and cover people and blitz if you need him to. Z Cunningham misses tackles and has a hard time shedding blockers. Reddick is more of a thumper and wouldn't get run over as easily as Cunningham.
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IMO, With the moves we have made in Free Agency, I think our first pick should be LB. Most people in the Forum who want a LB in the 1st Rd, want Z Cunningham. I would choose H Reddick who is more versatile and more stout. He can play the run and cover people and blitz if you need him to. Z Cunningham misses tackles and has a hard time shedding blockers. Reddick is more of a thumper and wouldn't get run over as easily as Cunningham.


I'd be completely fine with Reddick. Unfortunately, given his performance in the Senior Bowl and Combine, I just don't think he'll be available at 17.
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