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jrry32


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jshowers wrote:
CalhounLambeau wrote:
jshowers wrote:
Matt Miller hyping Jarrad Davis and Jalen Tabor.

I'm not sure those two are even among the top three prospects on UF.

"The Florida corner. Not Vernon Hargreaves, the younger guy (Tabor)," Laquon Treadwell said in reference to the best defensive back he's played against in college football.

You're being way too rough on both Davis and Tabor.


Tabor hardly covered Treadwell in that game.

He was talking about the same guy I'm referring to as perhaps a better prospect than Tabor - Quincy Wilson.


You're wrong. Tabor covered Treadwell for most of the first half. Wilson covered him for most of the second half while UF used Tabor as a slot CB.

Wilson played better against Treadwell, but Tabor was the better overall CB in 2015. Wilson made too many stupid errors due to his struggles tracking the ball with his back to the QB.

I won't be surprised if Wilson gets Stephon Gilmore comparisons.

Right now, I'd take Tabor over Wilson. Wilson is more physical and disciplined, but Tabor has better instincts and ball-skills.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BleedTheClock wrote:
Tabor overrated a little bit. Davis is not. He's a legitimate WLB/MLB/SLB prospect who can play any spot in a 4-3 or ILB in a 3-4. He's good. And has the athleticism to cover...just doesn't have the instincts to do that yet.

There are not any UF prospects better than Davis. Who do you think is better? Maye? Brantley? Sharpe? Davis is much better than those guys IMO.


Maye is overrated at this point in time if people consider him a first round prospect. Davis is uber talented, but he needs to improve in a few areas. He's undisciplined and needs to be more technically sound. He hurts the team at times trying to make flashy plays.(Keanu Neal was the same way)

For those of you who are looking for an underrated UF prospect, DeAndre Goolsby is that guy. I expect huge things from him in 2016. He's cut from the same cloth as Jordan Reed. He has major upside as a pass-catching TE. I think if Del Rio plays well this year, Goolsby will emerge as a top 60 pick.

One final note, I know a lot of Gator fans are excited about Alex Anzalone. He missed most of last year with a shoulder injury. He'll be starting in Antonio Morrison's place (although, Davis might shift to Mike which would put Anzalone at Will). He's a big guy (6'3" 237) who moves well. But his shoulder issues might scare NFL teams off.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jshowers wrote:
SemperFeist wrote:
For those new to Twitter, who are the essentials to follow?


Small time guys.

The media guys are mostly shills, or they just plug their own content for different websites.


Yes. Anyone who watches tape but the agent community is not aware exists.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow. I just watched a live video broadcast of Matt Miller unveiling his top-10 positional & overall rankings & they were atrocious. I'm sure he'll post the full rankings on B/R later today, but get a load of his top ten:

1. Leonard Fournette
2. Deshaun Watson
3. Christian McCaffrey
4. Jonathan Allen
5. Carl Lawson
6. Cam Robinson
7. Myles Garrett
8. Brad Kaaya
9. Jalen Tabor
10. Raekwon McMillan

First off, having Fournette & McCaffrey that high is laughable. Second, Myles Garrett is BEHIND Jonathan Allen & Carl Lawson. Third, ew.
The rest of his rankings were terrible, too. Check it out if you find the time.

EDIT: Mitch Leidner made his top ten QB's, guys.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jshowers wrote:
He was talking about the same guy I'm referring to as perhaps a better prospect than Tabor - Quincy Wilson.


Said this before the season started and it's true.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

North wrote:
Wow. I just watched a live video broadcast of Matt Miller unveiling his top-10 positional & overall rankings & they were atrocious. I'm sure he'll post the full rankings on B/R later today, but get a load of his top ten:

1. Leonard Fournette
2. Deshaun Watson
3. Christian McCaffrey
4. Jonathan Allen
5. Carl Lawson
6. Cam Robinson
7. Myles Garrett
8. Brad Kaaya
9. Jalen Tabor
10. Raekwon McMillan

First off, having Fournette & McCaffrey that high is laughable. Second, Myles Garrett is BEHIND Jonathan Allen & Carl Lawson. Third, ew.
The rest of his rankings were terrible, too. Check it out if you find the time.

EDIT: Mitch Leidner made his top ten QB's, guys.


He gets the shock and awe clicks now. Then magically after "watching more tape" changes his list to make it more realistic.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

These last 3 days have been the best Draft Twitter days ever. Some of you will know what I'm talking about lol
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

North wrote:
Wow. I just watched a live video broadcast of Matt Miller unveiling his top-10 positional & overall rankings & they were atrocious. I'm sure he'll post the full rankings on B/R later today, but get a load of his top ten:

1. Leonard Fournette
2. Deshaun Watson
3. Christian McCaffrey
4. Jonathan Allen
5. Carl Lawson
6. Cam Robinson
7. Myles Garrett
8. Brad Kaaya
9. Jalen Tabor
10. Raekwon McMillan

First off, having Fournette & McCaffrey that high is laughable. Second, Myles Garrett is BEHIND Jonathan Allen & Carl Lawson. Third, ew.
The rest of his rankings were terrible, too. Check it out if you find the time.

EDIT: Mitch Leidner made his top ten QB's, guys.


Watch this list slowly morph into an identical version of Daniel Jeremiah's after he's 'watched more tape'.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

candyman93 wrote:
North wrote:
Wow. I just watched a live video broadcast of Matt Miller unveiling his top-10 positional & overall rankings & they were atrocious. I'm sure he'll post the full rankings on B/R later today, but get a load of his top ten:

1. Leonard Fournette
2. Deshaun Watson
3. Christian McCaffrey
4. Jonathan Allen
5. Carl Lawson
6. Cam Robinson
7. Myles Garrett
8. Brad Kaaya
9. Jalen Tabor
10. Raekwon McMillan

First off, having Fournette & McCaffrey that high is laughable. Second, Myles Garrett is BEHIND Jonathan Allen & Carl Lawson. Third, ew.
The rest of his rankings were terrible, too. Check it out if you find the time.

EDIT: Mitch Leidner made his top ten QB's, guys.


He gets the shock and awe clicks now. Then magically after "watching more tape" changes his list to make it more realistic.


Pretty much this. He does that more than any other media draft guy I know - "watches more tape" and then suddenly he has a take similar to another draft media guy which was posted 4 days prior Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honest question... how much of the 'hate' is because we're jealous he gets paid to do something we love doing as a hobby, and how much is genuine hate because he's stupid?

Mine is about 25%/75%
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

G08 wrote:
Honest question... how much of the 'hate' is because we're jealous he gets paid to do something we love doing as a hobby, and how much is genuine hate because he's stupid?

Mine is about 25%/75%


I don't hate him for getting paid. Mine is entirely based on the fact that I don't think he knows what he's doing and makes his living vulturing other people's views. I honetly don't even care if he's good or not - evaluating prospects is an inexact science...but when he starts mimicking other guys 4 days after they post something because he, "watched more tape", it's hard to take. I'd have more respect for him if he kept his opinions, did all his homework, and just sucked lol.

But More power to him for getting paid. It's funny you mention this now though. We just had this conversation in the 49er forum about Walter Football. Most people hate it, don't respect it, but I'm actually in other boat where I respect the heck out Walter and the site just because he's basically an NFL Gen Troll who somehow built this website up from scratch and made a living at it. I don't begrudge him (or Miller) for that.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who lit up Josh allen then? Where's his hot take for that coming from?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

G08 wrote:
Honest question... how much of the 'hate' is because we're jealous he gets paid to do something we love doing as a hobby, and how much is genuine hate because he's stupid?

Mine is about 25%/75%

Nine is probably 50%/50% with the other 50% being his false humility - I don't think he's stupid.

Like many guys in draft media, he basically an accredited fan. As far as I know, he doesn't have any college or league background (it certainly doesn't bear out in his writing).

End of the day, it's about jealousy for me. I wish I had his job Sad.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MikeT14 wrote:
Who lit up Josh allen then? Where's his hot take for that coming from?


I think being a taller Jay Cutler and his flash plays did it.

Also, if I'm not mistaken it was Tony Pauline that said he is a talent.
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My point is you can find a franchise guy like [Derek] Carr in every draft

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

G08 wrote:
MikeT14 wrote:
Who lit up Josh allen then? Where's his hot take for that coming from?


I think being a taller Jay Cutler and his flash plays did it.

Also, if I'm not mistaken it was Tony Pauline that said he is a talent.


Yeah, Tony Pauline was in on the Josh Allen hype train first. I know he had Allen as a riser about a month ago. He was the first person that I can remember talking about him. FWIW though, he did say it would be a mistake for Allen to enter the draft this year.
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