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CalhounLambeau


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BleedTheClock wrote:
Jarran Jones is a stud in the making. Apparently he has laziness issues and was in the doghouse with his coaching staff. Somebody said this on here...assuming it's accurate. I love his game though. Superb power and speed for an interior player. Every ht/wt/spd box checked. He ruins run games. What I've heard about his character would cause me to place him in the 3rd round range. What I've seen on tape would make me take him in the 1st round.

What a unique take.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

redskins468671 wrote:
What are the best 3-4 prospects? I know about McDowell but are there any good NTs?


Take a look at Elijah Qualls WASHINGTON. He's the main pure NT. The other guy is Josh Tupou COLORADO.

EDIT: And I realize this quote was from 11 months ago. Well Redskins, I hope you enjoyed your answer! I'm going to leave my response here anyways.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You guys seen the Albany State guy?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

justo wrote:
You guys seen the Albany State guy?
He carries 350 really well. Even though the level of competition was pretty bad, it says something when a guy that large gets a decent amount of snaps as a 4-3 DE.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IDOG_det wrote:
justo wrote:
You guys seen the Albany State guy?
He carries 350 really well. Even though the level of competition was pretty bad, it says something when a guy that large gets a decent amount of snaps as a 4-3 DE.
Reminds me of Akiem Hicks at Regina.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone seen Ifeadi Odenigbo from Northwestern? Seeing he's been generating a little buzz.
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justo wrote:
IDOG_det wrote:
justo wrote:
You guys seen the Albany State guy?
He carries 350 really well. Even though the level of competition was pretty bad, it says something when a guy that large gets a decent amount of snaps as a 4-3 DE.
Reminds me of Akiem Hicks at Regina.
I can see that.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yesterday I saw some video on youtube that had Jon Allen and Solomon Thomas playing a trivia game against each other. It was because Jon Allen claims he's a nerd because he loves video games and builds computers, and Thomas because well...Stanford. For as smart as people would think Solomon Thomas is because he's well spoken and went to Stanford, he didn't know a terrabyte is bigger than a gigabyte, and thought Philadelphia was the Northernmost city out of NYC, Chicago and Philly.

Mental stock down.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Has anyone seen Ifeadi Odenigbo from Northwestern? Seeing he's been generating a little buzz.


Yeah, I posted a pretty long breakdown about him a couple pages ago . . . let me find the link. It didn't generate any discussion, and I was a little saddened. He's probably my favorite late round DE now.

Actually, I don't know how to link a specific post, but if you go to page 40 and scroll to the 4th post down, I hyped him pretty hard. I'll post some thoughts here with my general breakdown, along with a few gifs that I created from games:


Ifeadi Odenigbo

6'3"HEIGHT
32 5/8"ARM LENGTH
258LBS.WEIGHT
10 1/2"HANDS

4.72 SEC
25 REPS
31.5 INCH
128.0 INCH
7.26 SEC
4.40 SEC



Despite double digit sacks in last season of college, including a two-game stretch with 6 sacks, receives very little press. Big 10 sack leader. Odenigbo displays outstanding play strength that belies his size. While mostly a pass rush specialist in the past, he played full time in 2016 and improved his all around game. He doesn’t give up any ground at all against the run, although he struggled in previous years, leading many to write him off as a part time player or designated pass rusher.

When reviewing my game notes, I found an emerging theme of recurring words and phrases: “tree stump,” “violent,” “dominating,” “sturdy,” “overwhelming power,” etc. Strong punch to put tackle off balance, and often follows it up with a jerk or pull on the jersey when the tackle tries to regain equilibrium. Used occasionally as a standup blitzer from inside linebacker, or sometimes will reduce to 3-tech. Aggressive player who thrives on contact. Seems tough and mentally engaged at all times.

Extremely underrated player with solid traits and production — not a lot separating Odenigbo from the better known names in this class. Great in interviews, with an engaged, humble, and focused style of communication. Seems to have the drive and demeanor to be a reliable, responsible pro football player. Comes across as a mature, intelligent individual. Locker room leader. Well respected within the program.


+ Strength to bull rush effectively with one arm.
+ Excellent hand usage to disengage from blockers.
+ Often double- or triple-teamed; hugely respected by opposing teams/coaches
+ Even when he does not make the play, he often collapses the pocket
+ Good penetration on stunts
+ Flashes a quick, efficient spin move
+ Generally aware of quarterback’s movements in the pocket and maintains rush lanes
+ Stays alert to rollouts, reverses, and screens
+ Possesses the strength to tear down a runner or quarterback with one arm


- Needs more awareness getting hands into throwing lanes
- Not always a secure tackler
- Could improve angles to the ball
- Almost no experience dropping into zones (in case of an OLB conversion)
- Not a flashy “dynamic” athlete on the edge (for those looking for a Ware or Miller type)
- Could improve playing balance
- Needs to diversify pass rush arsenal
- Arms don’t quite make the magical 33” cutoff for those who care (not me)



Powerful. Violent. Aggressive.

https://gfycat.com/DenseLegalJackrabbit


Good work to defeat the block on the edge, but whiffed on the tackle.

https://gfycat.com/SizzlingTheseDugong


Top notch play against the run. Avoids the first block, stacks the second block, and still makes the tackle for a loss. Really solid work.

https://gfycat.com/SlimPaleIaerismetalmark


What I love about this sack is that Odenigbo has completely convinced the tackle that he’s going to bull-rush again, and then the tackle is left ducking his head at empty air when Odenigbo turns upfield. Although he’s primarily a physical bull-rusher, Odenigbo possess the playspeed to get outside and turn the edge on a tackle. It’s worth noting that he weighed in bigger and faster than Charles Harris, who is regarded as a speed rusher. Odenigbo has similar size and times to Basham, and produced against a higher level of competition, but he's listed as the 329th prospect by CBS Sports right now, and their 28th ranked DE.

329 Ifeadi Odenigbo DE 28 Northwestern rSr 6-3 258 7-FA

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

goldfishwars wrote:
Has anyone seen Ifeadi Odenigbo from Northwestern? Seeing he's been generating a little buzz.


Jack linebacker all day, kind of one trick pony pass rush wise. Needs to step outside of his comfort zone and try different moves to make himself more of a pass rushing threat overall. Plus he didn't play a lot of base defense which is puzzling. Needs a lot of work but has the athleticism to develop into something significant. Ceiling could be a Whitney Mercilus
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks fellas
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would post the link but on my phone. Caleb Brantley apparently hit a woman last night outside of a bar.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaliforniaKid7 wrote:
Would post the link but on my phone. Caleb Brantley apparently hit a woman last night outside of a bar.


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2703506-caleb-brantley-involved-in-physical-altercation-with-female-no-charges-filed

What a moron/loser.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MWil23 wrote:
CaliforniaKid7 wrote:
Would post the link but on my phone. Caleb Brantley apparently hit a woman last night outside of a bar.


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2703506-caleb-brantley-involved-in-physical-altercation-with-female-no-charges-filed

What a moron/loser.


http://www.wtsp.com/sports/future-nfl-draft-pick-gators-star-brantley-involved-in-fight-with-female/430994826

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Brantley, 22, claims Austin struck him in the face first, which Austin later confirmed to police, stating Brantley "disrespected her". Police say Brantley then pushed her away. He's listed as the victim in Gainesville PD's report.

Brantley didn't suffer any injuries. Multiple witnesses, according to the report, backed Brantley's recollection of the incident.

No charges were filed, and neither came forward as the victim.




Yeah what a piece of filth Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This Brantley thing is likely a big nothing from what I've read.
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