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Duffman57


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isidora reminds me of Christian Westerman last year. He's not getting the hype that he should, but he's really good and has a lot of the traits you want in a starting OG. I think he starts in this league for a long time.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Techbert wrote:
jrry32 wrote:
Anyone seen Jerry Ugokwe from William & Mary play?...


From what I see today, I see a good college player who is going to work for a living after this experience. Good thing he's a smart guy.


Struggling with his movement?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

marshawn lynch wrote:
Danny Isadora definetly improved his draft stock. He just seems so smooth in everything he does


He looked great.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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marshawn lynch wrote:
Danny Isadora definetly improved his draft stock. He just seems so smooth in everything he does


He looked great.

I've had him in the second round forever.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jrry32 wrote:
Techbert wrote:
jrry32 wrote:
Anyone seen Jerry Ugokwe from William & Mary play?...


From what I see today, I see a good college player who is going to work for a living after this experience. Good thing he's a smart guy.


Struggling with his movement?


Very much. His 40/3C/20 were 5.61/8.35/5.17 which I think was how he moved in drills. In the Banner and Mama range. You know how I like the small school guys, but I don't see a path for Ugokwe.

Smart and coachable, but that is not always enough. Hope I'm wrong.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jrry32 wrote:
Techbert wrote:
jrry32 wrote:
Anyone seen Jerry Ugokwe from William & Mary play?...


From what I see today, I see a good college player who is going to work for a living after this experience. Good thing he's a smart guy.


Struggling with his movement?


Big disappointment for me. I was on the hype train, but he looks like doesn't have much explosion or quickness to his game. Maybe a year or two in a NFL strength program would help, but I'm not sure he'll get drafted after his workout.

40: 5.61 SEC
18 REPS
26.0 INCH
103.0 INCH
8.35 SEC
5.17 SEC

Moving in molasses compared with the top perfomers.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

reamer wrote:
jrry32 wrote:
Techbert wrote:
jrry32 wrote:
Anyone seen Jerry Ugokwe from William & Mary play?...


From what I see today, I see a good college player who is going to work for a living after this experience. Good thing he's a smart guy.


Struggling with his movement?


Big disappointment for me. I was on the hype train, but he looks like doesn't have much explosion or quickness to his game. Maybe a year or two in a NFL strength program would help, but I'm not sure he'll get drafted after his workout.

40: 5.61 SEC
18 REPS
26.0 INCH
103.0 INCH
8.35 SEC
5.17 SEC

Moving in molasses compared with the top perfomers.
Hate to break it to ya, but the "NFL strength program" isn't a magic cure for being a bad athlete. Have to remember that NFL players spend more time away from the team than college players do.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Techbert wrote:
jrry32 wrote:
Techbert wrote:
jrry32 wrote:
Anyone seen Jerry Ugokwe from William & Mary play?...


From what I see today, I see a good college player who is going to work for a living after this experience. Good thing he's a smart guy.


Struggling with his movement?


Very much. His 40/3C/20 were 5.61/8.35/5.17 which I think was how he moved in drills. In the Banner and Mama range. You know how I like the small school guys, but I don't see a path for Ugokwe.

Smart and coachable, but that is not always enough. Hope I'm wrong.


That's too bad. I care more about the drills, but it sounds like he didn't look good there either. Confused
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Bolles was always my OT1, glad he showed up today
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pat Elfien didn't test very well. Looked pretty good in drills tho

Height - 6'2-5/8"
Weight - 303
Arms - 33-1/4"
Hands - 9-3/4"
40 Yard Dash - 5.32
10 Yard Split - 1.88
Bench - 22
Shuttle - 4.71
3 Cone - 7.94
Vertical - 23.5
Broad - 8'3"

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gopherwrestler wrote:
Pat Elfien didn't test very well. Looked pretty good in drills tho

Height - 6'2-5/8"
Weight - 303
Arms - 33-1/4"
Hands - 9-3/4"
40 Yard Dash - 5.32
10 Yard Split - 1.88
Bench - 22
Shuttle - 4.71
3 Cone - 7.94
Vertical - 23.5
Broad - 8'3"


This was Travis Frederick's combine, weird to think he's the best center in the league now.

Height: 6'4
Weight: 312 pounds
Hand size: 10 inches
Arm length: 33 inches
40-yard dash: 5.58 seconds
Vertical jump: 28.5 inches
Broad jump: 8'1
Shuttle: 4.76 seconds
Bench press: 21 reps of 225 pounds
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gopherwrestler wrote:
Pat Elfien didn't test very well. Looked pretty good in drills tho

Height - 6'2-5/8"
Weight - 303
Arms - 33-1/4"
Hands - 9-3/4"
40 Yard Dash - 5.32
10 Yard Split - 1.88
Bench - 22
Shuttle - 4.71
3 Cone - 7.94
Vertical - 23.5
Broad - 8'3"


I was disappointed in his drill work. Not bad, but not up to the hype. Tighter hips than I hoped. Looked down more than he should. Above numbers are not bad for a center either, but not hype-worthy.

He may move down my board, but didn't get kicked off. I'm going to go back and look at his tape again.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

goldfishwars wrote:
gopherwrestler wrote:
Pat Elfien didn't test very well. Looked pretty good in drills tho

Height - 6'2-5/8"
Weight - 303
Arms - 33-1/4"
Hands - 9-3/4"
40 Yard Dash - 5.32
10 Yard Split - 1.88
Bench - 22
Shuttle - 4.71
3 Cone - 7.94
Vertical - 23.5
Broad - 8'3"


This was Travis Frederick's combine, weird to think he's the best center in the league now.

Height: 6'4
Weight: 312 pounds
Hand size: 10 inches
Arm length: 33 inches
40-yard dash: 5.58 seconds
Vertical jump: 28.5 inches
Broad jump: 8'1
Shuttle: 4.76 seconds
Bench press: 21 reps of 225 pounds
NFL teams mostly care about the shuttle for offensive lineman. The cut-off for most teams that care about this for offensive lineman is around 4.75 to 4.80. Notice where both of them fall in regard to that...Frederick was fine and Elflein will be fine.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Techbert wrote:
I was disappointed in his drill work. Not bad, but not up to the hype. Tighter hips than I hoped. Looked down more than he should. Above numbers are not bad for a center either, but not hype-worthy.

He may move down my board, but didn't get kicked off. I'm going to go back and look at his tape again.
This is a thing people look for at the combine?

He will never be asked to run around little orange cones ever again so you probably won't have to worry about that Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two guys I don't think anyone has mentioned:

Nate Theaker looks like a football player. Not a great test subject, but some OL coaches prolly said, "I can work with that."

Loved Chad Wheeler's makeup - how he carried himself and where he kept his eyes. Too bad his body is a hot mess. I'd hope to sign him as an UDFA, reserve him after waivers, and see what I have in a couple of years, see if his body comes back.

Also Ethan Cooper had a very good morning. Jermaine Eluemunor is my kind of project. Dawkins should be talked about more. Sharpe intrigues me.

Any commentary on Conor McDermott? I thought he looked good, but would like other viewpoints.
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