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What position are you most concerned about for the upcoming season?
Left Guard
40%
 40%  [ 2 ]
Left Tackle
40%
 40%  [ 2 ]
Right Tackle
20%
 20%  [ 1 ]
NT (1tech)
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
CB
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
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Pete said that Dion Jordan is up to 280lbs and will be competing at 5-tech for us Confused
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Pete said that Dion Jordan is up to 280lbs and will be competing at 5-tech for us Confused
I heard that the other day. I am curious to see how he is carrying that 280.. really curious
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My ideal OLine lineup would be Fant-Odhiambo-Britt-Ifedi-Pocic.


Honestly my IDEAL lineup would be giving Odhiambo a chance at LT and keeping Glo at LG. Pundits are speculating that Rees is going to give Glo a serious run for his money this season at LG, and the team just doesn't seem to view him as a LT at all, so I'll keep it realistic.

Ifedi is going to get murdered if moved to RT, and the fact that we have Pocic and Aboushi capable of a higher level of play at that position lends me hope that we will keep Germain inside. Aboushi and Joekel, at the very least, are terrific swingmen that provide stable depth in case of injury.
I can't get behind starting Fant unless he shows insane growth. We don't need anything great out of our tackles here, we just need for them to make a guy work a little bit at least. Joeckel should provide us with something better than what Fant gave us last year while giving us an extra year to groom Fant as a future player

I can get behind Odhiambo as a starter. Maybe Glow will prove me wrong, but I don't ever see him being more than middlingly average
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tatupu_64 wrote:
SoS wrote:
My ideal OLine lineup would be Fant-Odhiambo-Britt-Ifedi-Pocic.


Honestly my IDEAL lineup would be giving Odhiambo a chance at LT and keeping Glo at LG. Pundits are speculating that Rees is going to give Glo a serious run for his money this season at LG, and the team just doesn't seem to view him as a LT at all, so I'll keep it realistic.

Ifedi is going to get murdered if moved to RT, and the fact that we have Pocic and Aboushi capable of a higher level of play at that position lends me hope that we will keep Germain inside. Aboushi and Joekel, at the very least, are terrific swingmen that provide stable depth in case of injury.
I can't get behind starting Fant unless he shows insane growth. We don't need anything great out of our tackles here, we just need for them to make a guy work a little bit at least. Joeckel should provide us with something better than what Fant gave us last year while giving us an extra year to groom Fant as a future player

I can get behind Odhiambo as a starter. Maybe Glow will prove me wrong, but I don't ever see him being more than middlingly average


For what it's worth, John said that if Fant were in this draft class, he doesn't think they would've had a chance to get him. Seems as though they are pretty high on him.
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SoS wrote:
Tatupu_64 wrote:
SoS wrote:
My ideal OLine lineup would be Fant-Odhiambo-Britt-Ifedi-Pocic.


Honestly my IDEAL lineup would be giving Odhiambo a chance at LT and keeping Glo at LG. Pundits are speculating that Rees is going to give Glo a serious run for his money this season at LG, and the team just doesn't seem to view him as a LT at all, so I'll keep it realistic.

Ifedi is going to get murdered if moved to RT, and the fact that we have Pocic and Aboushi capable of a higher level of play at that position lends me hope that we will keep Germain inside. Aboushi and Joekel, at the very least, are terrific swingmen that provide stable depth in case of injury.
I can't get behind starting Fant unless he shows insane growth. We don't need anything great out of our tackles here, we just need for them to make a guy work a little bit at least. Joeckel should provide us with something better than what Fant gave us last year while giving us an extra year to groom Fant as a future player

I can get behind Odhiambo as a starter. Maybe Glow will prove me wrong, but I don't ever see him being more than middlingly average


For what it's worth, John said that if Fant were in this draft class, he doesn't think they would've had a chance to get him. Seems as though they are pretty high on him.
John and Pete have slightly conflicting views on Fant imo. John loves his athleticism and has flat out said he likes Joeckel more at LG than LT. Pete has said in at least one presser that Fant is the LT of the future while also saying in the same breath that it could be good for him to learn behind Joeckel for a year
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I don't think they're in a position where they want to rush Fant in, but they believe he has an amazing potential. And he has. He lacks experience and some core power, but his feet are natural for the position, and his mentality is great: nasty streak and insane work ethic (man the dude just went from 260 to 295 in one off season).

I think this past season in the nfl, watching Fant, I saw much more upside and "wow" moments (in an entirely positive way) than watching a guy like Ramczyk's tape, who is imo pretty mediocre and really only has one season of good tape. I think Fant is going to be really good at some point in the next 2-3 years.

I think basketball players could potentially make better OT converts than DLs in the long run. The stance, kick slide and mirrorring resembles a bit basketball's perimeter on ball defense and post defense could translate well to anchoring.
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SoS wrote:
Pete said that Dion Jordan is up to 280lbs and will be competing at 5-tech for us Confused


I personally like it. It'll be shocking (and POSITIVE, the talent is there) to see him crack the final roster, but even if he doesn't, the signing is already positive if McDowell takes a good looks at Mike B's example and Dion Jordan's in contrast.

I also think the competition at 5t is gonna be staaaaaaaaaaaaacked.

Michael Bennett (lock)
Malik McDowell (lock)
Quinton Jefferson
Nazair Jones
Dion Jordan

At least I think the 5t is their best fit on Carroll's base/early down DL setup. They could bulk up Naz a bit and play him pure DT, tho.
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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2017 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tatupu_64 wrote:
SoS wrote:
Tatupu_64 wrote:
SoS wrote:
My ideal OLine lineup would be Fant-Odhiambo-Britt-Ifedi-Pocic.


Honestly my IDEAL lineup would be giving Odhiambo a chance at LT and keeping Glo at LG. Pundits are speculating that Rees is going to give Glo a serious run for his money this season at LG, and the team just doesn't seem to view him as a LT at all, so I'll keep it realistic.

Ifedi is going to get murdered if moved to RT, and the fact that we have Pocic and Aboushi capable of a higher level of play at that position lends me hope that we will keep Germain inside. Aboushi and Joekel, at the very least, are terrific swingmen that provide stable depth in case of injury.
I can't get behind starting Fant unless he shows insane growth. We don't need anything great out of our tackles here, we just need for them to make a guy work a little bit at least. Joeckel should provide us with something better than what Fant gave us last year while giving us an extra year to groom Fant as a future player

I can get behind Odhiambo as a starter. Maybe Glow will prove me wrong, but I don't ever see him being more than middlingly average


For what it's worth, John said that if Fant were in this draft class, he doesn't think they would've had a chance to get him. Seems as though they are pretty high on him.
John and Pete have slightly conflicting views on Fant imo. John loves his athleticism and has flat out said he likes Joeckel more at LG than LT. Pete has said in at least one presser that Fant is the LT of the future while also saying in the same breath that it could be good for him to learn behind Joeckel for a year


Again, for what it's worth, Pete himself strongly implied today on 710 that Fant is currently in the lead for starting LT.

Important to note is that he also said Ifedi was the probable starting RT and Glowinski the probable starting RG. He said Joekel would compete at LT against Fant and at LG against Odhiambo, and that he anticipates a great battle between Joekel and Rees (which is what suggested to me that Fant leads for LT).

No mention of Pocic oddly enough.
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Amara Darboh is also the most athletic WR we've ever drafted according to SPARQ rating
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Amara Darboh is also the most athletic WR we've ever drafted according to SPARQ rating


Interesting, but I don't really see that transition to his play. Struggles to separate and doesn't display much wiggle in his routes. Definitely not a better athlete than Golden Tate or Ricardo Lockette.
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SoS wrote:
Tatupu_64 wrote:
SoS wrote:
Tatupu_64 wrote:
SoS wrote:
My ideal OLine lineup would be Fant-Odhiambo-Britt-Ifedi-Pocic.


Honestly my IDEAL lineup would be giving Odhiambo a chance at LT and keeping Glo at LG. Pundits are speculating that Rees is going to give Glo a serious run for his money this season at LG, and the team just doesn't seem to view him as a LT at all, so I'll keep it realistic.

Ifedi is going to get murdered if moved to RT, and the fact that we have Pocic and Aboushi capable of a higher level of play at that position lends me hope that we will keep Germain inside. Aboushi and Joekel, at the very least, are terrific swingmen that provide stable depth in case of injury.
I can't get behind starting Fant unless he shows insane growth. We don't need anything great out of our tackles here, we just need for them to make a guy work a little bit at least. Joeckel should provide us with something better than what Fant gave us last year while giving us an extra year to groom Fant as a future player

I can get behind Odhiambo as a starter. Maybe Glow will prove me wrong, but I don't ever see him being more than middlingly average


For what it's worth, John said that if Fant were in this draft class, he doesn't think they would've had a chance to get him. Seems as though they are pretty high on him.
John and Pete have slightly conflicting views on Fant imo. John loves his athleticism and has flat out said he likes Joeckel more at LG than LT. Pete has said in at least one presser that Fant is the LT of the future while also saying in the same breath that it could be good for him to learn behind Joeckel for a year


Again, for what it's worth, Pete himself strongly implied today on 710 that Fant is currently in the lead for starting LT.

Important to note is that he also said Ifedi was the probable starting RT and Glowinski the probable starting RG. He said Joekel would compete at LT against Fant and at LG against Odhiambo, and that he anticipates a great battle between Joekel and Rees (which is what suggested to me that Fant leads for LT).

No mention of Pocic oddly enough.
I am sure he meantion Oday?
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Tatupu_64 wrote:
SoS wrote:
Tatupu_64 wrote:
SoS wrote:
Tatupu_64 wrote:
SoS wrote:
My ideal OLine lineup would be Fant-Odhiambo-Britt-Ifedi-Pocic.


Honestly my IDEAL lineup would be giving Odhiambo a chance at LT and keeping Glo at LG. Pundits are speculating that Rees is going to give Glo a serious run for his money this season at LG, and the team just doesn't seem to view him as a LT at all, so I'll keep it realistic.

Ifedi is going to get murdered if moved to RT, and the fact that we have Pocic and Aboushi capable of a higher level of play at that position lends me hope that we will keep Germain inside. Aboushi and Joekel, at the very least, are terrific swingmen that provide stable depth in case of injury.
I can't get behind starting Fant unless he shows insane growth. We don't need anything great out of our tackles here, we just need for them to make a guy work a little bit at least. Joeckel should provide us with something better than what Fant gave us last year while giving us an extra year to groom Fant as a future player

I can get behind Odhiambo as a starter. Maybe Glow will prove me wrong, but I don't ever see him being more than middlingly average


For what it's worth, John said that if Fant were in this draft class, he doesn't think they would've had a chance to get him. Seems as though they are pretty high on him.
John and Pete have slightly conflicting views on Fant imo. John loves his athleticism and has flat out said he likes Joeckel more at LG than LT. Pete has said in at least one presser that Fant is the LT of the future while also saying in the same breath that it could be good for him to learn behind Joeckel for a year


Again, for what it's worth, Pete himself strongly implied today on 710 that Fant is currently in the lead for starting LT.

Important to note is that he also said Ifedi was the probable starting RT and Glowinski the probable starting RG. He said Joekel would compete at LT against Fant and at LG against Odhiambo, and that he anticipates a great battle between Joekel and Rees (which is what suggested to me that Fant leads for LT).

No mention of Pocic oddly enough.
I am sure he meantion Oday?


Did not mention Aboushi either oddly enough. I think he was pretty much just saying the guys going into camp who are currently penciled in.
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imani wrote:
Amara Darboh is also the most athletic WR we've ever drafted according to SPARQ rating


Interesting, but I don't really see that transition to his play. Struggles to separate and doesn't display much wiggle in his routes. Definitely not a better athlete than Golden Tate or Ricardo Lockette.


Not as sudden or explosive as those two, but overall he's definitely a better Athlete
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Tatupu_64 wrote:
SoS wrote:
Tatupu_64 wrote:
SoS wrote:
Tatupu_64 wrote:
SoS wrote:
My ideal OLine lineup would be Fant-Odhiambo-Britt-Ifedi-Pocic.


Honestly my IDEAL lineup would be giving Odhiambo a chance at LT and keeping Glo at LG. Pundits are speculating that Rees is going to give Glo a serious run for his money this season at LG, and the team just doesn't seem to view him as a LT at all, so I'll keep it realistic.

Ifedi is going to get murdered if moved to RT, and the fact that we have Pocic and Aboushi capable of a higher level of play at that position lends me hope that we will keep Germain inside. Aboushi and Joekel, at the very least, are terrific swingmen that provide stable depth in case of injury.
I can't get behind starting Fant unless he shows insane growth. We don't need anything great out of our tackles here, we just need for them to make a guy work a little bit at least. Joeckel should provide us with something better than what Fant gave us last year while giving us an extra year to groom Fant as a future player

I can get behind Odhiambo as a starter. Maybe Glow will prove me wrong, but I don't ever see him being more than middlingly average


For what it's worth, John said that if Fant were in this draft class, he doesn't think they would've had a chance to get him. Seems as though they are pretty high on him.
John and Pete have slightly conflicting views on Fant imo. John loves his athleticism and has flat out said he likes Joeckel more at LG than LT. Pete has said in at least one presser that Fant is the LT of the future while also saying in the same breath that it could be good for him to learn behind Joeckel for a year


Again, for what it's worth, Pete himself strongly implied today on 710 that Fant is currently in the lead for starting LT.

Important to note is that he also said Ifedi was the probable starting RT and Glowinski the probable starting RG. He said Joekel would compete at LT against Fant and at LG against Odhiambo, and that he anticipates a great battle between Joekel and Rees (which is what suggested to me that Fant leads for LT).

No mention of Pocic oddly enough.
I am sure he meantion Oday?


I'm putting my $$ on Fant at LT and Aboushi at LG. Maybe Aboushi transitions to RG but I'm thinking he sticks at LG. I don't see Ifedi sticking at RT at all. Fortunately, the speed rushers typically don't play the strong side but even then, Ifedi won't handle SS pass rushers. All speculation, but that's what sport sites are all about. Opinions.
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Zman724 wrote:
Tatupu_64 wrote:
SoS wrote:
Tatupu_64 wrote:
SoS wrote:
Tatupu_64 wrote:
SoS wrote:
My ideal OLine lineup would be Fant-Odhiambo-Britt-Ifedi-Pocic.


Honestly my IDEAL lineup would be giving Odhiambo a chance at LT and keeping Glo at LG. Pundits are speculating that Rees is going to give Glo a serious run for his money this season at LG, and the team just doesn't seem to view him as a LT at all, so I'll keep it realistic.

Ifedi is going to get murdered if moved to RT, and the fact that we have Pocic and Aboushi capable of a higher level of play at that position lends me hope that we will keep Germain inside. Aboushi and Joekel, at the very least, are terrific swingmen that provide stable depth in case of injury.
I can't get behind starting Fant unless he shows insane growth. We don't need anything great out of our tackles here, we just need for them to make a guy work a little bit at least. Joeckel should provide us with something better than what Fant gave us last year while giving us an extra year to groom Fant as a future player

I can get behind Odhiambo as a starter. Maybe Glow will prove me wrong, but I don't ever see him being more than middlingly average


For what it's worth, John said that if Fant were in this draft class, he doesn't think they would've had a chance to get him. Seems as though they are pretty high on him.
John and Pete have slightly conflicting views on Fant imo. John loves his athleticism and has flat out said he likes Joeckel more at LG than LT. Pete has said in at least one presser that Fant is the LT of the future while also saying in the same breath that it could be good for him to learn behind Joeckel for a year


Again, for what it's worth, Pete himself strongly implied today on 710 that Fant is currently in the lead for starting LT.

Important to note is that he also said Ifedi was the probable starting RT and Glowinski the probable starting RG. He said Joekel would compete at LT against Fant and at LG against Odhiambo, and that he anticipates a great battle between Joekel and Rees (which is what suggested to me that Fant leads for LT).

No mention of Pocic oddly enough.
I am sure he meantion Oday?


I'm putting my $$ on Fant at LT and Aboushi at LG. Maybe Aboushi transitions to RG but I'm thinking he sticks at LG. I don't see Ifedi sticking at RT at all. Fortunately, the speed rushers typically don't play the strong side but even then, Ifedi won't handle SS pass rushers. All speculation, but that's what sport sites are all about. Opinions.


You know I agree wholeheartedly about the Ifedi piece. If the staff goes into this offseason with a genuine desire to put guys at their optimal spot, Ifedi will not be starting any regular season games at RT. It should be a competition between Aboushi and Pocic. Unfortunately I don't believe this staff has much desire to start Aboushi out of the gates.
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