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lark25


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slot WR is pretty predictable

Look at 3 cone, 10yrd, short shuttle, 20yd. Explosion numbers are also good but you want quickness and also look for good hands.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://rotoviz.com/2016/12/2017-nfl-draft-prospect-mitch-trubisky/
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://harvardsportsanalysis.org/2015/02/the-combine-actually-matters-part-2/
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://socalledfantasyexperts.com/pass-rushers-which-nfl-combine-drills-matter-the-most

http://rotoviz.com/2016/02/which-measurables-really-matter-for-running-backs/?hvid=4cwUNh

http://rotoviz.com/2016/02/which-combine-drills-really-matter-for-wide-receivers/?hvid=4tgZes

http://rotoviz.com/2016/02/the-nfl-combine-tight-end-drills-that-really-matter/?hvid=2Jm0cj
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://theringer.com/nfl-playoffs-draft-scouting-explosion-seahawks-steelers-cowboys-patriots-chiefs-85ea73e65837#.lbmem3b8p

Good article

This quote at the end I think says it all "Gosh, you better have good teachers" Laughing

All these measurables mean nothing if the coaching stinks
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anybody updating 2017 pass rushers using Waldo's formulas?

Just curious (and lazy) Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jch1911 wrote:
Anybody updating 2017 pass rushers using Waldo's formulas?

Just curious (and lazy) Wink


Probably have to wait until after pro days to get them all. It's not a hard formula, though. I'll run a few tomorrow.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just need the 3 cone and shuttles for the LBs and can do the combine guys. Looks like Techbert will do it though.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Techbert wrote:
jch1911 wrote:
Anybody updating 2017 pass rushers using Waldo's formulas?

Just curious (and lazy) Wink


Probably have to wait until after pro days to get them all. It's not a hard formula, though. I'll run a few tomorrow.


Thx Techbert! Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Assuming I've got the conversions (from inches into decimals) correct, of the guys from whom we've got a full set of data (i.e. not Demarcus Walker, or any of the LB group), these are the guys that pass Waldo's #s:

Low Risk 1 (Twitch score <1.1 and 3-cone <7.0sec)
- Solomon Thomas
- Jordan Willis
- Pita Taimoepenu

Low Risk 2 (Explosive) (Power score >1.05)
- Myles Garrett

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10q3d6-MS4fYSe6wIUcCQWakclrS8dpLbT2foHLdwf60/edit?usp=sharing


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

drd23 wrote:
Assuming I've got the conversions (from inches into decimals) correct, of the guys from whom we've got a full set of data (i.e. not Demarcus Walker, or any of the LB group), these are the guys that pass Waldo's #s:

Low Risk 1 (Twitch score <1.1 and 3-cone <7.0sec)
- Solomon Thomas
- Jordan Willis
- Pita Taimoepenu

Low Risk 2 (Explosive) (Power score >1.05)
- Myles Garrett


https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5LM6OkdirHYYUtpd2JIUlBuVWM/view?usp=sharing


Great work. I haven't looked it all over in detail, just some of the results, but I did notice that most of Derek Barnett's numbers were wrong. Vert was 31, not 29 from what I see. Broad was 9.75, not 9.0. 3 cone was 6.96 not 7.62, and the 20 yard shuttle was 4.44, not 4.89

Should pretty dramatically change his score, though maybe not his risk.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forge wrote:
drd23 wrote:
Assuming I've got the conversions (from inches into decimals) correct, of the guys from whom we've got a full set of data (i.e. not Demarcus Walker, or any of the LB group), these are the guys that pass Waldo's #s:

Low Risk 1 (Twitch score <1.1 and 3-cone <7.0sec)
- Solomon Thomas
- Jordan Willis
- Pita Taimoepenu

Low Risk 2 (Explosive) (Power score >1.05)
- Myles Garrett


Great work. I haven't looked it all over in detail, just some of the results, but I did notice that most of Derek Barnett's numbers were wrong. Vert was 31, not 29 from what I see. Broad was 9.75, not 9.0. 3 cone was 6.96 not 7.62, and the 20 yard shuttle was 4.44, not 4.89

Should pretty dramatically change his score, though maybe not his risk.

Thanks. Seems the place I used to copy the results from had some of them wrong.

This link might be better as it should show any updates as things change
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10q3d6-MS4fYSe6wIUcCQWakclrS8dpLbT2foHLdwf60/edit?usp=sharing
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

drd23 wrote:
Assuming I've got the conversions (from inches into decimals) correct, of the guys from whom we've got a full set of data (i.e. not Demarcus Walker, or any of the LB group), these are the guys that pass Waldo's #s:

Low Risk 1 (Twitch score <1.1 and 3-cone <7.0sec)
- Solomon Thomas
- Jordan Willis
- Pita Taimoepenu

Low Risk 2 (Explosive) (Power score >1.05)
- Myles Garrett

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10q3d6-MS4fYSe6wIUcCQWakclrS8dpLbT2foHLdwf60/edit?usp=sharing


That is one dismal return. This is either going to be the class that breaks the formula, or this is a seriously over hyped crop of rushers.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How close were Willis and Thomas to also making the low-risk 2 group?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

indigo_rex wrote:
How close were Willis and Thomas to also making the low-risk 2 group?


Willis was close. Thomas doesn't have a result due to an error with his height.(it's listed at 6025 instead of 6.25)
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