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CaptainInsano


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow you guys are spot on. Just read Todd Downing is gonna be promoted to OC
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems strange to let Musgrave go unless he wanted to?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hopefully Downing is the next McDaniels
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

agarcia34 wrote:
Todd Downing would have gotten some looks for a OC job with the job hes done with Carr. Had to promote him and not lose him. With keeping Todd Downing system pretty much can stay the same aside from his own little add ons


Exactly. Similiar to John Defilippo the other year. Downing has done a great job with Carr and this continuity is going to be massive for us. I like the Downing promotion and feel this is a good move for the team.

Now the KNJ retention if true is another story...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DB's coach Marcus Robertson wont be returning as well.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My guess is Bill wants a HC job or atleast is looking for one either in NFL or college and Downing was a candidate for other OC jobs so either promote Downing or maybe lose both and start all over.
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Dessie


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaliforniaKid7 wrote:
My guess is Bill wants a HC job or atleast is looking for one either in NFL or college and Downing was a candidate for other OC jobs so either promote Downing or maybe lose both and start all over.


That makes sense re Downing being highly regarded.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

agarcia34 wrote:
DB's coach Marcus Robertson wont be returning as well.


Our secondary was far too susceptible to the big play. Who knows if that's more on KNJ's play-calling or our players simply not being coached right. Who knows but I am not too bummed about losing Robertson.
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agarcia34 wrote:
DB's coach Marcus Robertson wont be returning as well.

Our secondary was always lost unless an individual made a spectacular play like Woodson or amerson. I know cwood swore by Robertson but there's no reason our secondary should have been consistently mediocre
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John Middlekauff said this wasn't mutual. Raiders fired him.
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agarcia34 wrote:
John Middlekauff said this wasn't mutual. Raiders fired him.


Musgrave or Robertson?
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oakdb36 wrote:
agarcia34 wrote:
John Middlekauff said this wasn't mutual. Raiders fired him.


Musgrave or Robertson?



Musgrave
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

agarcia34 wrote:
oakdb36 wrote:
agarcia34 wrote:
John Middlekauff said this wasn't mutual. Raiders fired him.


Musgrave or Robertson?



Musgrave


I imagine the poor showing by the entire O (not just Cook) in the Houston game sealed his fate.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RaidersAreOne wrote:
agarcia34 wrote:
oakdb36 wrote:
agarcia34 wrote:
John Middlekauff said this wasn't mutual. Raiders fired him.


Musgrave or Robertson?



Musgrave


I imagine the poor showing by the entire O (not just Cook) in the Houston game sealed his fate.


thats ridiculous.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

they just didn't resign him. he wasn't fired. they just wanted dowling
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