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Murray was insane down the stretch!! Another game winner!!!

Why are they baloney? Because you disagree with them? If they backed up your opinion, would they be valid all of a sudden? Lol, ok. Stats don’t matter, and somehow throwing the ball to WRs where they aren’t getting hurt is somehow this green flag in today’s game. Like, is there any scout out there saying Penix consistently had good footwork? Consistently hit outside the numbers? Was good throwing on the move? Was good off script? Didn’t benefit from having great protection and high caliber targets? Just gonna repeat myself here:

What a game

First person who's made this comment LOL A lot of Lions fans are perplexed by the Manu pick

Gallup headed to LV for $3m/yr. Seems like a steal for LV. I’m thinking MG is going to rebound.

Haha covid, 4 times, has not been kind to my memory. Throw in being in my mid 40s with a 1 year old baby, on top of the long haul stuff, and it's rough these days. But I remember concepts like that. Some things stick, quite clearly. That is one of them! I'd always bought into the notion that Big Snack was the anchor of that defense and the key to stuffing the run, because that's what everyone said. But the proof was in the pudding, and when Smith went down they fell apart, whereas Snack going down was barely noticeable. I was a big fan of that entire DL. I thought Snack should've gotten SB MVP even, so it's not like I didn't like him or appreciate him. Him or Fast Willie, not Hines. I think in the end, Hoke was a great backup, whereas Hood sucked (if I'm remembering the backups correctly), and that was the real key lol.

I think if you are using the consensus board, you need to follow it. Once you add variations, then you are picking to fill needs and that leads to reaching. In a technical sense, not taking the consensus highest ranked player is reaching

Some position I’d like to see a vet brought in: RB, OT, DL, S I like bringing in Gibson, but RB’s thin. Stevenson wears down or gets hurt, the RB room looks super bare again. I think there needs to be another player brought in here to push Kevin Harris and Hasty. Kareem Hunt has experience in the offense, Latavius Murray is someone who can kinda do a few things. Rashaad Penny can’t stay healthy at all, but he presents a little more upside than the old heads. No secret, OT could still use someone a little bit more proven at tackle. The early talks are trying Okorafor there and having him compete with the rookie, Wallace. They’d be lucky if either walk in and offer even decent play on Day 1, so while Big Mike is manning the right side, LT is still open. I’ve been vocal about former Commanders LT Charles Leno who is still available. DJ Humphries probably won’t be healthy until late into the summer at best, and Bahktiari is a walking injury report. Would an Andrus Peat or a Geron Christian offer much of an upgrade? Hard to say. I do think DL could use some more bodies, particularly on the interior. Barmore just got re-signed (bless), but he’s a guy that’s dealt with knee injuries throughout his career. Godchaux is an overpaid NT that can eat space, and not much else. NE signed Armon Watts who they hope can be Lawrence Guy take II, but I think the position’s thin, even taking into account that guys like Wise and White can rush from the interior on passing downs. Some big space eaters are still out there (Al Woods, Linval Joseph) meanwhile Calais Campbell is still kicking out there. Not a lot out there in FA. And safety…for starters, I hope Mapu is moved to LBer. He looked more natural there in college and was absolutely lost in the back end last year. That aside, right now the only safeties are Dugger, Peppers, Bledsoe, and new signing Hawkins. We all know what Dugger and Peppers can do. We also know what the defense looks like with three good safeties. I’d love to see someone who can be a bit more of a rangey player, but I think even adding more smart defenders in the back could go a long ways. Already pounded the table for Justin Simmons, but Quandre Diggs would be a nice add.

Webster was long before my time, so no comment. Dirty D is my favorite of all time, meaning I think he was the best I've seen. Pouncey was definitely over-rated, but still quite good. When I said Frazier looks average to me, I meant he's athletically average by a quality starting C in the NFL standard.

I think AOC has something and could be a decent starting QB. Not saying he is great or even played good for a starting QB last year but to put things into perspective his per game averages as a rookie was close to Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco. QBs with athletic limitations will tend to struggle in their early years. Some in here gave Carr a break for his last years here based on circumstances but if that is the case how much more slack should we cut a 4th round rookie QB? I will admit he did not have a good game against KC but despite that he had 853 yards, 8 TDs, and 0 Ints the last 4 weeks of the year while going 3-1. Granted I will 100% give the KC game to the defence but he also did not lose the game for us. As for Tannenhill I would rather lose with AOC and be able to make an informed decision on what direction to go in with our QBs next year. If Tannenhill was a younger QB and we could have a future with him then I say battle it out. He will be 36 by the time the season starts. O'Connell and Minshew will be 26 and 28 respectively.