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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

texans_uk wrote:
Going to France vs Italy next Saturday at Twickenham.

Really evicted.


Cool Very Happy It has the makings of a good game; Italy has had some of its best results against France in recent years...
Last 5 encounters:

L] 0-29 (H) 2015
L] 30-10 (A) 2014
W] 23-18 (H) 2013
L] 30-12 (A) 2012
W] 22-21 (H) 2011
L] 46-20 (A) 2010

A RWC match at neutral venue, who knows what might happen?
It should also be noted that France is the great RWC enigma...
One game they can look like a team barely capable of making out of their Pool & the next they look like a team that just might win it all... Laughing

(Hope you have a great time & enjoy the game!!!)

One thing in France's favour is an injury to the Italian Captain...

Rugby World Cup 2015: Italy's Sergio Parisse to miss opener

"Italy captain Sergio Parisse will miss his country's opening Rugby World Cup clash against France next weekend."
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/rugby-union/34233841
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


Concussion under microscope at Rugby World Cup
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11512098


Rugby World Cup organisers hope new safety rules will broaden sport’s appeal

"With hosts England playing the opening match on Friday, governing bodies look to make the game more family-friendly"
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/sep/13/rugby-world-cup-new-rules-braoden-appeal-scrum-changes
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



Players to Watch at the 2015 World Cup
http://www.rugbyworld.com/tournaments/world-cup/players-to-watch-at-the-2015-world-cup-48324
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only interested in an England victory


England Vs NZ final
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gillam wrote:
Only interested in an England victory


England Vs NZ final


Could struggle to make it out of pool play.

I think from that pool Australia will make it.

Then one of England, Wales and don't write off Fiji. They beat a Samoan team that gave the All Blacks a very tough game.

Assuming AUstralia make it I rate the chances of the other three as

England 50%
Wales 35%
Fiji 15%
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hornbybrown wrote:
gillam wrote:
Only interested in an England victory


England Vs NZ final


Could struggle to make it out of pool play.

I think from that pool Australia will make it.

Then one of England, Wales and don't write off Fiji. They beat a Samoan team that gave the All Blacks a very tough game.

Assuming AUstralia make it I rate the chances of the other three as

England 50%
Wales 35%
Fiji 15%


Child Please

England will win the pool, easily.

Fiji, are good for 7's thats it.
Urgay we will put out B team in
Wales, suffered some bad injuries, but I am not worried about the sheep lovers
Aussies, meh. Time to teach those criminals how to play some rugga.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In all seriousness, I am only worried about SA.

NZ we will lose to France in a QF (standard WC rules)
Aussies will be drinking to much beer in a walkabout
SA are just that good
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hornbybrown wrote:
gillam wrote:
Only interested in an England victory


England Vs NZ final


Could struggle to make it out of pool play.

I think from that pool Australia will make it.

Then one of England, Wales and don't write off Fiji. They beat a Samoan team that gave the All Blacks a very tough game.

Assuming AUstralia make it I rate the chances of the other three as

England 50%
Wales 35%
Fiji 15%


No chance. Wales lost their best player and Fiji always look good, but they don't have the capacity to play at a to level for 80 minutes.

If England don't make it out of the group Lancaster should resign immediately.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

texans_uk wrote:
hornbybrown wrote:
gillam wrote:
Only interested in an England victory


England Vs NZ final


Could struggle to make it out of pool play.

I think from that pool Australia will make it.

Then one of England, Wales and don't write off Fiji. They beat a Samoan team that gave the All Blacks a very tough game.

Assuming AUstralia make it I rate the chances of the other three as

England 50%
Wales 35%
Fiji 15%


No chance. Wales lost their best player and Fiji always look good, but they don't have the capacity to play at a to level for 80 minutes.

If England don't make it out of the group Lancaster should resign immediately.


totally agree. I don't see this as a group of death. Just a strong group.
Fiji, Uragay are bankable wins
Wales is a win but a close game
Aus are in enemy territory.

It should be noted all of England games are at twickers, minus the uragay
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marc MacGyver wrote:
texans_uk wrote:
Going to France vs Italy next Saturday at Twickenham.

Really evicted.


Cool Very Happy It has the makings of a good game; Italy has had some of its best results against France in recent years...
Last 5 encounters:

L] 0-29 (H) 2015
L] 30-10 (A) 2014
W] 23-18 (H) 2013
L] 30-12 (A) 2012
W] 22-21 (H) 2011
L] 46-20 (A) 2010

A RWC match at neutral venue, who knows what might happen?
It should also be noted that France is the great RWC enigma...
One game they can look like a team barely capable of making out of their Pool & the next they look like a team that just might win it all... Laughing

(Hope you have a great time & enjoy the game!!!)

One thing in France's favour is an injury to the Italian Captain...

Rugby World Cup 2015: Italy's Sergio Parisse to miss opener

"Italy captain Sergio Parisse will miss his country's opening Rugby World Cup clash against France next weekend."
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/rugby-union/34233841


I watched most of the warm-up friendlies, and Italy looked pretty unsettled to me. They lost one of their best backs in Morisi and they don't really have anyone to replace him. Garcia and Bacchin are not international centres. Parisse's likely replacement (Vunisa) is capable, but he doesn't provide the same spark as the captain. France have been slumping for a while now, but they seem to be on an upward trend. If Michalak and Tillous-Borde can direct the pack around the field and provide some stability, they can do some real damage.


Marc MacGyver wrote:


Players to Watch at the 2015 World Cup
http://www.rugbyworld.com/tournaments/world-cup/players-to-watch-at-the-2015-world-cup-48324


Good list, got a couple of additions though.

Australia: Hooper, Pocock, Folau

England: Vunipola, Ford, May, Watson

Wales: Tipuric, Faletau, North, Liam Williams (Morgan if he plays)

Scotland: Denton, Bennett, Hogg

South Africa: Etzebeth, De Jager, De Allende, Le Roux

Argentina: Ayerza, Leguizamon, Hernandez, Imhoff, Cordero

New Zealand: Retallick, Read, Nonu, Ben Smith

France: Picamoles, Picamoles, Picamoles (seriously how good is Picamoles?), Fofana, Spedding

Ireland: O'Brien, Bowe, Madigan

Italy: Parisse, Zanni, Sarto
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Owen Farrell starts - i will be very angry.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gillam wrote:
If Owen Farrell starts - i will be very angry.


The only match he's likely to start is against Uruguay. Ford hasn't really done anything to lose the job at this point. I would be shocked if he doesn't start against Fiji, Wales and Australia.

I'm guessing Lancaster will use Farrell to help control games in the 2nd half when they're ahead. Farrel
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Rugby World Cup 2015: England unchanged for Fiji opener
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/rugby-union/34250496

England: Mike Brown (Harlequins); Anthony Watson (Bath Rugby), Jonathan Joseph (Bath Rugby), Brad Barritt (Saracens), Jonny May (Gloucester Rugby); George Ford (Bath Rugby); Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers); Joe Marler (Harlequins), Tom Youngs (Leicester Tigers), Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers), Geoff Parling (Exeter Chiefs), Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints), Tom Wood (Northampton Saints), Chris Robshaw (capt, Harlequins), Ben Morgan (Gloucester Rugby).
Replacements: Rob Webber (Bath Rugby), Mako Vunipola (Saracens), Kieran Brookes (Northampton Saints), Joe Launchbury (Wasps), Billy Vunipola (Saracens), Richard Wigglesworth (Saracens), Owen Farrell (Saracens), Sam Burgess (Bath Rugby). Wink


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I watched most of the warm-up friendlies, and Italy looked pretty unsettled to me. They lost one of their best backs in Morisi and they don't really have anyone to replace him. Garcia and Bacchin are not international centres. Parisse's likely replacement (Vunisa) is capable, but he doesn't provide the same spark as the captain. France have been slumping for a while now, but they seem to be on an upward trend. If Michalak and Tillous-Borde can direct the pack around the field and provide some stability, they can do some real damage.


Cheers… Interesting, I didn’t get to see any Northern Hemisphere RWC warm up matches (Only shown on specialty channel, like most European Rugby *) other than the first ENG v FRA match via stream… The match reports, articles etc, have filled me in… It looked via the match report that Italy ran Wales close, but reports can be deceiving without context (Lots of experimentation going on in those warm ups, probably worth as much as NFL preseason results*)… I know the Italians had a poor showing in this year’s 6 nations, but hopefully they’ve improved….

(I’ll trust your eyes & knowledge on this one, as Rugby from the North is limited here… So you don’t think that 22 year old Bacchin is ready or he just doesn’t have what it takes/never will at test level? )

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Good list, got a couple of additions though.

Australia: Hooper, Pocock, Folau

England: Vunipola, Ford, May, Watson

Wales: Tipuric, Faletau, North, Liam Williams (Morgan if he plays)

Scotland: Denton, Bennett, Hogg

South Africa: Etzebeth, De Jager, De Allende, Le Roux

Argentina: Ayerza, Leguizamon, Hernandez, Imhoff, Cordero

New Zealand: Retallick, Read, Nonu, Ben Smith

France: Picamoles, Picamoles, Picamoles (seriously how good is Picamoles?), Fofana, Spedding

Ireland: O'Brien, Bowe, Madigan

Italy: Parisse, Zanni, Sarto


^^Nailed it, even better list... Anybody not familiar with Rugby, but has interest in this RWC should be on the lookout for the players on the above list…
I chose the list I posted via the link, because it had players from every participating nation… I wouldn’t have had a hope of creating a player-watch list for the likes of Namibia, Romania, Uruguay & Japan… (I know Mamuka Gorgodze from Georgia though*) Wink

I’d say the RWC top try scorer will be one of the following …

Anthony Watson [ENG]
Johnny May [ENG]
Israel Folau [AUS]
Nehe Milner-Skudder [NZ]
Waisake Naholo [NZ]

(With North & Williams [WAL] an outside chance*)
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

texans_uk wrote:
hornbybrown wrote:
gillam wrote:
Only interested in an England victory


England Vs NZ final


Could struggle to make it out of pool play.

I think from that pool Australia will make it.

Then one of England, Wales and don't write off Fiji. They beat a Samoan team that gave the All Blacks a very tough game.

Assuming AUstralia make it I rate the chances of the other three as

England 50%
Wales 35%
Fiji 15%


No chance. Wales lost their best player and Fiji always look good, but they don't have the capacity to play at a to level for 80 minutes.

If England don't make it out of the group Lancaster should resign immediately.


Looks like hornby is initiating the WC banter… Cool Laughing

My 2 cents worth... I think England will top Group A… Home ground advantage & the fact that they have been somewhat of a bogey team for Australia in European conditions; bodes well for them… They also face Wales at Twickenham, so they have the advantage there as well.

Australia will probably place 2nd in the pool… The have a similar bogey team status over Wales (Last 12 meetings…. W9/L2/D1*)… This is a pretty strong Australian squad, one of the better-assembled teams in the past decade… Wales even with the injuries will push hard for a top 2 finish, but ultimately will fall short I believe.

{Pool A} Certainly will be where the best group stage action is… (Can’t miss TV*)

After that the quality drops off a bit… RWC (Or any other WC for that matter*) just doesn’t have the depth the FIFA Football World Cup or UEFA European Championship have in each group…

{Pool B} South Africa will top the group in a canter... The battle for 2nd could be interesting though, with Scotland & Samoa fighting for the spot… USA/Japan to play the possible spoiler roll.

{Pool C} New Zealand & Argentina should be the clear favourites, (NZ-1 ARG-2*) I see no serious threat to either team in the group & both teams are a level above their competition.

{Pool D} Looks to be the second most competitive group, it should clearly be between Ireland & France, but Italy may be capable of surprising... My belief is though that Ireland & France will advance, the order that they place is the real question.

The great thing about RWC is that if you get through the Pool stage, (Sometimes that’s easy*) you only really need to put together a three game winning streak (3 games of your best Rugby*) to become the Champion… (Easier said than done*)

The teams I believe are capable of doing this:

NZ, ENG, AUS, RSA, IRE, FRA, WAL

Argentina is not quite there yet… They had a great win over South Africa in RSA, but dropped the ball the next match & couldn’t back up the performance. Leading me to believe they’re not capable of stringing together three back-to-back winning performances against quality opposition.
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