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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:46 pm    Post subject: Atlanta Braves Thread(We suck again!) Reply with quote

I thought Id make a new one, and start it by going over our top prospects. I dont have much time for analyzing all prospects, so if you have questions about someone, then just ask.

Braves Top 50 Prospects

1.Jose Peraza, 2B
Age:20
2015 Level:AAA
Major League Debut:2015

2.Max Fried, LHP
Age:21
2015 Level:Injured
Major League Debut:2018

3.Rio Ruiz, 3B
Age:20
2015 Level:AA
Major League Debut:2016

4.Lucas Sims, RHP
Age:20
2015 Level:AA
Major League Debut:2016

5.Ozhaino Albies, SS
Age:18
2015 Level:A-
Major League Debut:2018

6.Christian Bethancourt, C
Age:23
2015 Level:MLB
Major League Debut:2014

7.Braxton Davidson, LF
Age:18
2015 Level:A-
Major League Debut:2018

8.Mike Foltynewicz, RHP
Age:23
2015 Level:AAA/MLB
Major League Debut:2014

9.Ricardo Sanchez, LHP
Age:18
2015 Level:A-
Major League Debut:2018

10.Mallex Smith, CF
Age:21
2015 Level:AA
Major League Debut:2017

11.Tyrell Jenkins, RHP
Age:22
2015 Level:AA
Major League Debut:2016

12.Alec Grosser, RHP
Age:20
2015 Level:A-
Major League Debut:2018

13.Manny Banuelos, LHP
Age:24
2015 Level:AAA
Major League Debut:2015

14.Shae Simmons, RHP
Age:24
2015 Level:Injured
Major League Debut:2014

15.Arodys Vizcaino, RHP
Age:24
2015 Level:AAA/MLB
Major League Debut:2011

16.Jose Briceno, C
Age:22
2015 Level:AA
Major League Debut:2017

17.Dian Toscano, LF
Age:25
2015 Level:AA(?)
Major League Debut:2016(?)

18.Dustin Peterson, 3B
Age:20
2015 Level:A+
Major League Debut:2017

19.Garrett Fulenchek, RHP
Age:18
2015 Level:R/A-
Major League Debut:2019

20.Jace Peterson, 2B
Age:24
2015 Level:MLB
Major League Debut:2014

21.Jason Hursh, RHP
Age:23
2015 Level:AAA
Major League Debut:2016

22.Mauricio Cabrera, RHP
Age:21
2015 Level:A+
Major League Debut:2018

23.Daniel Winkler, RHP
Age:25
2015 Level:Injured
Major League Debut:2017

24.Andrew Thurman, RHP
Age:23
2015 Level:A+
Major League Debut:2017

25.Tanner Murphy, C
Age:20
2015 Level:A-
Major League Debut:2019

26.Carlos Salazar, RHP
Age:20
2015 Level:A-
Major League Debut:2018

27.Daniel Castro, SS
Age:22
2015 Level:AAA
Major League Debut:2016

28.Aaron Kurcz, RHP
Age:24
2015 Level:AAA
Major League Debut:2015

29.Juan Jaime, RHP
Age:27
2015 Level:AAA/MLB
Major League Debut:2014

30.Cody Martin, RHP
Age:25
2015 Level:AAA/MLB
Major League Debut:2015

31.Zoilo Almonte, LF
Age:25
2015 Level:AAA/MLB
Major League Debut:2013

32.Yean Carlos Gil, LHP
Age:24
2015 Level:A+/AA
Major League Debut:2017

33.Luis Merejo, LHP
Age:20
2015 Level:R
Major League Debut:2019

34.Dilmer Mejia, LHP
Age:17
2015 Level:R/A-
Major League Debut:2019

35.Wes Parsons, RHP
Age:22
2015 Level:AA
Major League Debut:2017

36.Max Povse, RHP
Age:21
2015 Level:R/A-
Major League Debut:2018

37.Chad Sobotka, RHP
Age:21
2015 Level:R
Major League Debut:2019

38.Bradley Roney, RHP
Age:22
2015 Level:A-
Major League Debut:2018

39.Williams Perez, RHP
Age:23
2015 Level:AAA
Major League Debut:2016

40.Jordan Edgerton, 3B
Age:21
2015 Level:A-
Major League Debut:2018

41.Luke Dykstra, LF
Age:19
2015 Level:A-
Major League Debut:2019

42.Ray-Patrick Didder, SS
Age:20
2015 Level:A-
Major League Debut:2018

43.Juan Yepez, 3B
Age:16
2015 Level:Instructional
Major League Debut:2020

44.Victor Reyes, LF
Age:20
2015 Level:A+
Major League Debut:2018

45.Johan Camargo, SS
Age:21
2015 Level:A+
Major League Debut:2018

46.Chris Diaz, LHP
Age:21
2015 Level:A+
Major League Debut:2017

47.Todd Cunningham, LF
Age:26
2015 Level:AAA
Major League Debut:2013

48.Zach Quintana, RHP
Age:20
2015 Level:A-
Major League Debut:2018

49.Nate Hyatt, RHP
Age:24
2015 Level:AA
Major League Debut:2016

50.Connor Lien, CF
Age:21
2015 Level:A+
Major League Debut:2018
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn, devils. I was starting to think you were dead with the lack of Braves talk... Laughing

Great post by the way.... Applause
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Potential Minor League Rosters for 2015

Gwinnett
2B:Jose Peraza
SS:Daniel Castro
LF:Todd Cunningham
CF:Zoilo Almonte

SP:Mike Foltynewicz
SP:Manny Banuelos
SP:Jason Hursh
SP:Cody Martin
SP:Williams Perez

RP:Arodys Vizcaino
RP:Aaron Kurcz
RP:Juan Jaime

Mississippi
C:Jose Briceno
3B:Rio RUiz
LF:Dian Toscano
CF:Mallex Smith

SP:Tyrell Jenkins

SP:Lucas Sims
SP:Wes Parsons

RP:Nate Hyatt

Carolina
SS:Johan Camargo
LF:Victor Reyes
CF:Connor Lien

SP:Mauricio Cabrera
SP:Andrew Thurman
SP:Yean Carlos Gil
SP:Chris Diaz

Danville
C:Tanner Murphy
1B/3B:Jordan Edgerton
2B/SS:Ray-Patrick Diddler
3B:Dustin Peterson
SS:Ozhaino Albies
LF:Braxton Davidson
CF:Luke Dykstra

SP:Ricardo Sanchez
SP:Alex Grosser
SP:Bradley Roney
SP:Zach Quintana

RP:Carlos Salazar

GCL/DSL

SP:Garrett Fulenchek
SP:Luis Merejo
SP:Dilmer Mejia
SP:Max Povse
SP:Chad Sobotka
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

palmy50 wrote:
Damn, devils. I was starting to think you were dead with the lack of Braves talk... Laughing

Great post by the way.... Applause


Just been really busy with work and life and whatnot.

This has been in the works for a while.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and while Im at it, here is what I think the roster will look like come April 6th.

C:Christian Bethancourt
1B:Freddie Freeman
2B:Alberto Callaspo/Jace Peterson
3B:Chris Johnson
SS:Andrelton Simmons
LF:Jonny Gomes
CF:Eric Young Jr
RF:Nick Markakis

C:A.J. Pierzynski
INF:Alberto Callaspo/Jace Peterson
INF:Kelly Johnson
OF:Melvin Upton Jr
1B/OF:Joey Terdoslavich

SP:Julio Teheran
SP:Alex Wood
SP:Shelby Miller
SP:Wandy Rodriguez
SP:Eric Stultz

CP:Craig Kimbrel
SU:Jason Grilli
RP:Jim Johnson
LOOGY:James Russell
RP:Luis Avilan
RP:Brandon Cunniff
RP:Chien Ming-Wang

DL:Mike Minor
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You catching any of these spring training games? If so, what's on your mind with the team?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

palmy50 wrote:
You catching any of these spring training games? If so, what's on your mind with the team?


Good
-Jace Peterson will have the 2nd base job locked up by the end of May
-Freddie will come close to leading the league in walks. He looks dialed in already
-Wandy Rodriguez could possibly be the next Aaron Harang
-The rest of the projected starters look good for the most part

Bad
-We cannot hit home runs
-3B/LF/CF will be a circus all through the season
-Melving Gordon is not guaranteed to start
-The pen looks shaky. We have no depth now with injuries and trades

I still think we will edge out Philly for 4th in the division, but this is going to be an ugly year, and a probable top 5 draft pick is what we are looking at in 2016.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2017 looks nice though

C:Christian Bethancourt
1B:Freddie Freeman
2B:Jace Peterson
3B:Rio Ruiz
SS:Andrelton Simmons
LF:Dian Toscano
CF:Jose Peraza
RF:Nick Markakis

SP:Julio Teheran
SP:Alex Wood
SP:Shelby Miller
SP:Lucas Sims
SP:Mike Minor/Tyrell Jenkins

CP:Craig Kimbrel
CP:Shae Simmons
RP:Mike Foltyewicz
RP:Arodys Vizcaino
RP:Jason Grilli
RP:Luis Avilan
RP:Manny Banuelos/Daniel Winkler/Aaron Kurcz

INF:chris Johnson
INF:Daniel Castro
OF:Mallex Smith
OF:Melvin Upton
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty much my take as well.

- Shame on Callaspo for coming in out of shape(though he has looked better of late).
- Could not agree more about Freeman not seeing good pitches with the guys around him.
- Rodriguez is more talented than Harang. Harang always took the hill though. Fingers crossed.
- Agreed. Rest look the part.


- Yup. Not much power left.
- I think Johnson will still see most of the work at 3rd. Good chance the same can be said for Gomes in LF. I do wonder what will play out at CF if Young shows well at the top of the card though.
- I personally have no real issue with the pen. Think it will come together.

And your right. Future(17) looks bright on paper.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

palmy50 wrote:
Pretty much my take as well.

- Shame on Callaspo for coming in out of shape(though he has looked better of late).
- Could not agree more about Freeman not seeing good pitches with the guys around him.
- Rodriguez is more talented than Harang. Harang always took the hill though. Fingers crossed.
- Agreed. Rest look the part.


- Yup. Not much power left.
- I think Johnson will still see most of the work at 3rd. Good chance the same can be said for Gomes in LF. I do wonder what will play out at CF if Young shows well at the top of the card though.
- I personally have no real issue with the pen. Think it will come together.

And your right. Future(17) looks bright on paper.

Yikes, you guys have some real black holes on the roster.
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Doubt anyone would fight you on that though....
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palmy50 wrote:
Pretty much my take as well.

- Shame on Callaspo for coming in out of shape(though he has looked better of late).
- Could not agree more about Freeman not seeing good pitches with the guys around him.
- Rodriguez is more talented than Harang. Harang always took the hill though. Fingers crossed.
- Agreed. Rest look the part.


- Yup. Not much power left.
- I think Johnson will still see most of the work at 3rd. Good chance the same can be said for Gomes in LF. I do wonder what will play out at CF if Young shows well at the top of the card though.
- I personally have no real issue with the pen. Think it will come together.

And your right. Future(17) looks bright on paper.


-I would love to see Callaspo or Peterson take over for Johnson at third, or at least platoon with him when they arent at second. I think Callaspo and Peterson are a lot better for our lineup than CJ, and his high K rate.

-Wandy is definitely more taleted than Harang, but Im talking about the fact that both were pretty much out of baseball before they came to the Braves, and I think Wandy can have a Harang type of season this year. Apparently, Rodger McDowell doesnt get enough credit.

-We really have no CFer. Melvin Gordon(I will call him whatever I want until he produces) has been injured, and wont even start until he earns it. Fredi is feeling the heat with this one. Toscano could have been a threat to take the spot, but he is still stuck in Cuba, or wherever. Neither Almonte nor Perez has been particular effective. I know EYJ is a LFer by trade, but we will have to have him in center for 100+ games this year. Gomes and Kelly will have to platoon in left, and EYJ can move to left when/if BJ starts.

-In the pen, Kimbrel is a sure thing, but for the most part, these old guys have been bad. Russell has shown why it was a wasted trade last year(Caratini!!!!!!!!!!!!). Capps is already sent to AAA. Veras has been awful. Grilli and Johnson have looked pretty descent, but they havent had that many opportunities this spring. Avilan isnt great. Who does that leave? Thomas has been sent down, along with the rest of the promising youngsters. Shae Simmons is gone for the year. Either Wang or Martin will have to fill the role of LR apparently. Trading all of Walden/Carpenter/Hale/Shreve was a bad idea.
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palmy50 wrote:
Pretty much my take as well.

- Shame on Callaspo for coming in out of shape(though he has looked better of late).
- Could not agree more about Freeman not seeing good pitches with the guys around him.
- Rodriguez is more talented than Harang. Harang always took the hill though. Fingers crossed.
- Agreed. Rest look the part.


- Yup. Not much power left.
- I think Johnson will still see most of the work at 3rd. Good chance the same can be said for Gomes in LF. I do wonder what will play out at CF if Young shows well at the top of the card though.
- I personally have no real issue with the pen. Think it will come together.

And your right. Future(17) looks bright on paper.


-I would love to see Callaspo or Peterson take over for Johnson at third, or at least platoon with him when they arent at second. I think Callaspo and Peterson are a lot better for our lineup than CJ, and his high K rate.

-Wandy is definitely more taleted than Harang, but Im talking about the fact that both were pretty much out of baseball before they came to the Braves, and I think Wandy can have a Harang type of season this year. Apparently, Rodger McDowell doesnt get enough credit.

-We really have no CFer. Melvin Gordon(I will call him whatever I want until he produces) has been injured, and wont even start until he earns it. Fredi is feeling the heat with this one. Toscano could have been a threat to take the spot, but he is still stuck in Cuba, or wherever. Neither Almonte nor Perez has been particular effective. I know EYJ is a LFer by trade, but we will have to have him in center for 100+ games this year. Gomes and Kelly will have to platoon in left, and EYJ can move to left when/if BJ starts.

-In the pen, Kimbrel is a sure thing, but for the most part, these old guys have been bad. Russell has shown why it was a wasted trade last year(Caratini!!!!!!!!!!!!). Capps is already sent to AAA. Veras has been awful. Grilli and Johnson have looked pretty descent, but they havent had that many opportunities this spring. Avilan isnt great. Who does that leave? Thomas has been sent down, along with the rest of the promising youngsters. Shae Simmons is gone for the year. Either Wang or Martin will have to fill the role of LR apparently. Trading all of Walden/Carpenter/Hale/Shreve was a bad idea.


Yeah, I'm with you on most(if not all) of that.

If I'm going to spell Johnson at third, I'd probably lean Callaspo. Peterson gets a long look from me at second. Fact is, I'm personally just not real high on Callaspo right now and would probably just play Johnson in hopes of him getting back to 2013 Johnson. If Callaspo came to camp in shape and ran away with the job at second I'd be all about getting Peterson some play at third. It's pick your poison over there right now though IMO

Wouldn't fight you on the Wandy thing one bit. Just hope he stays healthy. Looks like a great sign right now though.

Melvin Gordon thing had me dying... Laughing

Hope that part by me on the pen did not come off the wrong way. I clearly do not feel this group is on par with what we had. Just not sore over the group when I view the team at large. Clearly not the weakest link IMO. That's all.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

palmy50 wrote:
devils1854 wrote:
palmy50 wrote:
Pretty much my take as well.

- Shame on Callaspo for coming in out of shape(though he has looked better of late).
- Could not agree more about Freeman not seeing good pitches with the guys around him.
- Rodriguez is more talented than Harang. Harang always took the hill though. Fingers crossed.
- Agreed. Rest look the part.


- Yup. Not much power left.
- I think Johnson will still see most of the work at 3rd. Good chance the same can be said for Gomes in LF. I do wonder what will play out at CF if Young shows well at the top of the card though.
- I personally have no real issue with the pen. Think it will come together.

And your right. Future(17) looks bright on paper.


-I would love to see Callaspo or Peterson take over for Johnson at third, or at least platoon with him when they arent at second. I think Callaspo and Peterson are a lot better for our lineup than CJ, and his high K rate.

-Wandy is definitely more taleted than Harang, but Im talking about the fact that both were pretty much out of baseball before they came to the Braves, and I think Wandy can have a Harang type of season this year. Apparently, Rodger McDowell doesnt get enough credit.

-We really have no CFer. Melvin Gordon(I will call him whatever I want until he produces) has been injured, and wont even start until he earns it. Fredi is feeling the heat with this one. Toscano could have been a threat to take the spot, but he is still stuck in Cuba, or wherever. Neither Almonte nor Perez has been particular effective. I know EYJ is a LFer by trade, but we will have to have him in center for 100+ games this year. Gomes and Kelly will have to platoon in left, and EYJ can move to left when/if BJ starts.

-In the pen, Kimbrel is a sure thing, but for the most part, these old guys have been bad. Russell has shown why it was a wasted trade last year(Caratini!!!!!!!!!!!!). Capps is already sent to AAA. Veras has been awful. Grilli and Johnson have looked pretty descent, but they havent had that many opportunities this spring. Avilan isnt great. Who does that leave? Thomas has been sent down, along with the rest of the promising youngsters. Shae Simmons is gone for the year. Either Wang or Martin will have to fill the role of LR apparently. Trading all of Walden/Carpenter/Hale/Shreve was a bad idea.


Yeah, I'm with you on most(if not all) of that.

If I'm going to spell Johnson at third, I'd probably lean Callaspo. Peterson gets a long look from me at second. Fact is, I'm personally just not real high on Callaspo right now and would probably just play Johnson in hopes of him getting back to 2013 Johnson. If Callaspo came to camp in shape and ran away with the job at second I'd be all about getting Peterson some play at third. It's pick your poison over there right now though IMO

Wouldn't fight you on the Wandy thing one bit. Just hope he stays healthy. Looks like a great sign right now though.

Melvin Gordon thing had me dying... Laughing

Hope that part by me on the pen did not come off the wrong way. I clearly do not feel this group is on par with what we had. Just not sore over the group when I view the team at large. Clearly not the weakest link IMO. That's all.


The only reason that the pen pisses me off is the fact that we are in a rebuilding year or two. We can take this time and see what exactly we have in the young guys. Ian Thomas, Juan Jaime, Yeah Carlos Gil, and Ryne Harper should be given long looks this year. Hell, Id even try someone like Cody Martin or a Williams Perez in the open long reliever role. In the short term, Grilli, Johnson, and a Wang will probably be better, but if we want to win in two years, we should be trying out guys now, because we just cant have Kimbrel and Simmons as the future of the pen.
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I feel ya. I know I for one will shake my head a bit if Cody Martin goes down after what I've seen from him/others this spring. He's pitching real well right now and injuries happen. I'm all about getting value out of those arms at the highest level of play if possible. I mean, Martin is clearly pitching better than some others that will make the club. Not like we are talking about a high upside guy or a 20 year old either. Martin is pitching well NOW. Get some value out of that!
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