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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They sign the contracts knowing full well how they often play out. If they do not like the way the contracts are composed then don't sign them.


And teams sign the contracts knowing full well that players often hold out when underpaid. If they do not like the way that players hold out, then don't sign them.

Fair?
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I don't think Marshawn is going to get a lot more than what he's getting right now. The Seahawks 2 fully capable replacements waiting to get their share of playing time, and of course neither are Marshawn Lynch but the Seahawks can't afford to pay Lynch when they've got a lot of other players who aren't about to decline waiting to get extensions as well.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The longer he holds out the longer Christine Michael has to prove he's the best back in Seattle.
Exactly. I don't get this for Marshawn at all.

Hold out of camp >>> lose money >>> end up losing PT to your backup >>> still get cut in a year

or

Go to camp >>> don't lose mopey >>> lose some PT to your backup but not as much >>> still get cut in a year

option #2 looks a lot better Laughing
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SoS wrote:
The longer he holds out the longer Christine Michael has to prove he's the best back in Seattle.
Exactly. I don't get this for Marshawn at all.

Hold out of camp >>> lose money >>> end up losing PT to your backup >>> still get cut in a year

or

Go to camp >>> don't lose mopey >>> lose some PT to your backup but not as much >>> still get cut in a year

option #2 looks a lot better Laughing


Marshawn has never been accused of being the smartest guy in the world. He's probably holding out for more skittles and Fireball, honestly.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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SoS wrote:
The longer he holds out the longer Christine Michael has to prove he's the best back in Seattle.
Exactly. I don't get this for Marshawn at all.

Hold out of camp >>> lose money >>> end up losing PT to your backup >>> still get cut in a year

or

Go to camp >>> don't lose mopey >>> lose some PT to your backup but not as much >>> still get cut in a year

option #2 looks a lot better Laughing


I don't know if he gets cut in a year. Ideally for Seattle fans, he'll realize that his abilities are waning this season (which isn't a foregone conclusion that they are, by the way) and accepts a restructured deal to be the thunder to Michael's lightning. That way we can use both guys on a 50/50 balance.

Honestly, I could see Lynch setting a career high in TDs this season. I think we'll mostly see Michael between the 20's when he does come in and when you consider Wilson is entering his 3rd year and we'll have Percy Harvin added to the offense, we should have quite a few more scoring chances in the redzone than years past.
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IDOG_det wrote:
SoS wrote:
The longer he holds out the longer Christine Michael has to prove he's the best back in Seattle.
Exactly. I don't get this for Marshawn at all.

Hold out of camp >>> lose money >>> end up losing PT to your backup >>> still get cut in a year

or

Go to camp >>> don't lose mopey >>> lose some PT to your backup but not as much >>> still get cut in a year

option #2 looks a lot better Laughing


Marshawn has never been accused of being the smartest guy in the world. He's probably holding out for more skittles and Fireball, honestly.
and more ropes to put in front of his cars
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He has no leverage here, he would be smart to show up and probably play what is his last year there.
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IDOG_det wrote:
SoS wrote:
The longer he holds out the longer Christine Michael has to prove he's the best back in Seattle.
Exactly. I don't get this for Marshawn at all.

Hold out of camp >>> lose money >>> end up losing PT to your backup >>> still get cut in a year

or

Go to camp >>> don't lose mopey >>> lose some PT to your backup but not as much >>> still get cut in a year

option #2 looks a lot better Laughing


Frankly, I think he just overestimates his value.

I'm betting he thinks the team can't move forward without him, when frankly, if I'm Seattle, i don't really feel like losing Lynch makes the team win fewer games, or makes the rushing attack much less potent.
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Jakuvious wrote:
I'm betting he thinks the team can't move forward without him, when frankly, if I'm Seattle, i don't really feel like losing Lynch makes the team win fewer games, or makes the rushing attack much less potent.

It's hard for outsiders to know about that, we didn't really se a lot of Christine Mickael in the NFL.
*Maybe* the coaches know more than we do ...
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Flaccomania wrote:
Typical_Lions wrote:

They sign the contracts knowing full well how they often play out. If they do not like the way the contracts are composed then don't sign them.


And teams sign the contracts knowing full well that players often hold out when underpaid. If they do not like the way that players hold out, then don't sign them.

Fair?
For the longest time players had requested longer contracts to get larger guaranteed money up front. That didn't stop them from complaining towards the end of their contract when they were no longer near the top of the highest paid players list.
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Flaccomania wrote:
Typical_Lions wrote:

They sign the contracts knowing full well how they often play out. If they do not like the way the contracts are composed then don't sign them.


And teams sign the contracts knowing full well that players often hold out when underpaid. If they do not like the way that players hold out, then don't sign them.

Fair?


No. It's not. The idea that you can be fired from your job for not performing is pretty well understood...so if players play to a standard less than their paycheck, they get released. There is no clause for the reverse, for simply not turning up because you want more money.

One of those is in breech of contract, and one of those is not.

Additionally, guaranteed money is just that - guaranteed - there is no guaranteed fitness, no guaranteed standard of play. The team is the one taking on all the risk, so of course they retain the option to cut short that risk. If and when that happens, the player still gets his money.
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