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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:59 pm    Post subject: Pace and the offense Reply with quote

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Packers want to speed up offense
July, 14, 2014 By Rob Demovsky | ESPN.com

GREEN BAY, Wis. – The faster the better.

That's what Green Bay Packers coach Mike McCarthy has planned for his offense this season.

And why not, especially with Aaron Rodgers on board with the idea?

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Aaron Rodgers and the Packers are determined to play faster and thus run more plays in 2014.
McCarthy and his quarterback have one primary goal in mind for 2014: Run 75 plays per game.

Do that, and everything else -- big numbers for Randall Cobb, Jordy Nelson, Jarrett Boykin and possibly one of the new rookie receivers; another 1,000-plus yard season for Eddie Lacy; solid pass protection -- will fall into place.

"That seems to be the answer to some of the different things that defenses are doing," Rodgers said during an interview this offseason.

The first hint of McCarthy's plans came in February, when he stood at the lectern at the NFL scouting combine and declared that he wants Lacy -- and all of his running backs -- to turn into three-down players in order to limit the need for substitutions, which, of course, slows down the game.

"We play pretty fast, but you always want to play faster," McCarthy said during an interview near the end of the offseason program last month. "With a guy like Aaron, he plays faster than anybody I've ever been around."

McCarthy's offense isn't Chip Kelly's, which averaged 80-plus plays per game when he ran the fastest game in college football at Oregon. But Kelly's offense in the NFL -- despite 53 plays in the first half of his first game as the Philadelphia Eagles' coach last season -- wasn't Kelly's offense in college, either.

The Eagles finished last season 13th out of 32 teams in total offensive plays with 1,054, an average of 65.875 per game.

The Packers ranked 11th with 1,074 total plays (67.125 per game) -- their second-highest total in McCarthy's eight seasons as head coach -- but averaged nearly 69 plays in the games Rodgers finished last season.

"Aaron Rodgers is a beast the way he plays the game, the way he attacks the defense, whether it's his cadence, his ability to recognize defenses to take advantage of a certain pressure, and then on top of it he's so well-rehearsed in this offense," McCarthy said. "If anything, you worry about him just sometimes playing too fast. Not that he's playing too fast, he has the ability to play at such a fast level, it's keeping everyone coordinated to be able to play with him."

And that's where the running backs come into the picture.

As Lacy pounded his way to well-earned yards on first and second down last season, he usually came off the field on third down -- not because he needed a blow but because McCarthy and his offense staff felt better about using another back (often fullback John Kuhn) in pass protection. That plan usually worked (remember Kuhn's game-saving block on Julius Peppers in the Week 17 division-clinching win over the Bears), but the Packers had to downshift in order to make the change.

This year, McCarthy sees no need to change speeds and no reason to give the defense time to adjust.

"We've always been a fast-tempo offense," he said. "To me, there are two approaches to playing the game of football. Historically, in my opinion because I don't want to offend anybody, defensive coaches want to slow the game down, run the ball, shorten the game. Your offensive coaches more want to pick it up.

"I've always been of the belief of getting as many shots as you can, so we've always emphasized playing as fast as you can. When you have as many three-down players as you can possibly have, obviously your substitution patterns are cleaner. You're not subbing because you have to, you're subbing just when you need to."

That could mean even more no-huddle series this season. Rodgers, who has excelled in the no-huddle offense, likes the plan.

"We always kind of struggle with that trying to get guys to stay on the field and play all three downs," Rodgers said. "We've had so many injuries over the years, it's made John Kuhn such an irreplaceable guy because he can be the guy who can run and get you a few yards and also be a third-down protection back. He's been amazing at it in two-minute drills. I mean, last year, he made the block of the year. But it would be nice if we could have drives where Eddie can go three plays in a row or James [Starks] could go three plays in a row or DuJuan [Harris] could go three plays in a row and not have to take them out, so we could not have to bring in any subs and you could stay pressuring the defense.

"There’s a lot of substitution that goes on by both teams. The key substitution is usually for third down, because teams run so much on third down. After second down, if you're subbing four or five guys on and off, it's tough to run an offense where you're up-tempo, because everybody has to get the call, and it just takes a little longer. We'd like to play a little faster."


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

they have always been a relatively quick moving offense...

its easy to say they want to run 'more plays' this year, but opposing defenses have still been able to dictate that much better than what we saw in 2011

i dont mind more no-huddle since i believe Rodgers is better than anyone on the planet... but i dont want MM reverting back to his BS cutesy play-calling we have seen the past couple seasons

outside of a meteor hitting green bay there is really 0 reason this team cant score at least 3 points 75% of the time they have the ball... but recent years they haven't really shown any kind of consistent powerhouse production like we know they are capable of

too many 3 & outs or letting the foot off the pedal late in games has been a Mike McCarthy staple since day 1

personally, i would be thrilled to see Rodgers have more control after the huddle breaks
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would have much rather seen a discussion about the need to improve Red Zone efficiency as the Packers were 26th in converting Red Zone trips into TDs at 50.72% clip in 2013. Yes Rodgers is perhaps the greatest offensive weapon in the NFL and more snaps should generate more opportunities to score. However, the Packer defense is just so blah that Packers must start converting a higher percentage of possessions into TDs.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The uptempo is great when it is working. But a 3 and out that takes 50 seconds of game clock and 3 minutes of real time is a problem. I feel that has gotten our defense in trouble in recent years (though admittedly I can't prove it).
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Something about MM calling Rodgers "a beast" makes me chuckle.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Soooo.....more no-huddle? That'd be nice. We have a powerful enough offense to make it happen. The only concern I have is how much rest our defense would get.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel great about this. With how fast Philly's offense moved last year - we still ran more plays per game than them. I don't anticipate us looking all that much different, maybe less substitution and more production.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uhhhhh, to me this is just fluff(which I can live with this time of year). The Packers offense already jacks up the pace when they have favorable match ups. I think they got away from it without Rodgers and the two games he played when he came back I think they never really got back into their groove.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From this article and other bits and pieces since the start of the league year I don't get the impression there will be more no huddle, but they intend to use less substitutions on third down. Some of that may be no huddle, or more like a sugar huddle, am not sure. Avoiding the substitution process likely cuts a few seconds out between plays even with a huddle.

Or maybe McCarthy just got carried away with the idea of three down players once he got started with Hyde. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It does seem kind of fluffy, but looking at the skill-sets at hand I can see the thinking behind less substitutions. Force people into a nickel look, and then go heavy. Lyerla (if he pans out), Cobb, Harris, Kuhn, Bostick/Finley? all imo have uniquely transferable skill sets. Brady pulled it off pretty effectively, especially when he had the Gronk Hernandez combo at full force. Also gets the 3rd down unit out of their comfort zone, we can run at a nickel unit now without any hiccups. Get that 3rd and 6 with Lacy on, and give him 3-4 carries after that without substitution.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ajdodge09 wrote:
Something about MM calling Rodgers "a beast" makes me chuckle.


Me too. Laughing

If we think about it this notion of speeding up the offense was pretty clever of Mike. Defensive coordinators will have enough headaches deciding who to cover and now they have to contend with this. Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the defense could get off the field the offense could run more plays
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