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deathstar


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tongue-Splitter wrote:
I just wanna know how it's possible to lose 11 pounds from doing yoga. Like... Is it just the stress relief that made him lose 11 pounds? Maybe I should read the article, but... I just don't get it.


Yoga's pretty stressful. Hard to describe if you haven't done a class, but maintaining proper postures in awkward positions and moving quickly through a series of them can be exhausting.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

deathstar wrote:
Tongue-Splitter wrote:
I just wanna know how it's possible to lose 11 pounds from doing yoga. Like... Is it just the stress relief that made him lose 11 pounds? Maybe I should read the article, but... I just don't get it.


Yoga's pretty stressful. Hard to describe if you haven't done a class, but maintaining proper postures in awkward positions and moving quickly through a series of them can be exhausting.


Sounds like something that could help keep him on his feet when fending off sacks.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I just wanna know how it's possible to lose 11 pounds from doing yoga. Like... Is it just the stress relief that made him lose 11 pounds? Maybe I should read the article, but... I just don't get it.


GBPackers79 wrote:
1 - He didn't lose weight from doing yoga, those were two separate thoughts.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GBPackers79 wrote:
Tongue-Splitter wrote:
I just wanna know how it's possible to lose 11 pounds from doing yoga. Like... Is it just the stress relief that made him lose 11 pounds? Maybe I should read the article, but... I just don't get it.


GBPackers79 wrote:
1 - He didn't lose weight from doing yoga, those were two separate thoughts.


This.

So much fail around this thread, losing weight from yoga, and the mystique that yoga in the NFL has around it. Yoga doesn't prevent you from cracking your collarbone, folks. Stretching doesn't prevent injuries at all, really. Like Olivia Munn's sister, I'm also a physical therapist. And yoga how it's designed, shouldn't be stressful. You're pushing beyond your movement limits if a position is stressful to hold and you're not likely to keep that flexibility.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PackersTK21 wrote:
GBPackers79 wrote:
Tongue-Splitter wrote:
I just wanna know how it's possible to lose 11 pounds from doing yoga. Like... Is it just the stress relief that made him lose 11 pounds? Maybe I should read the article, but... I just don't get it.


GBPackers79 wrote:
1 - He didn't lose weight from doing yoga, those were two separate thoughts.


This.

So much fail around this thread, losing weight from yoga, and the mystique that yoga in the NFL has around it. Yoga doesn't prevent you from cracking your collarbone, folks. Stretching doesn't prevent injuries at all, really. Like Olivia Munn's sister, I'm also a physical therapist. And yoga how it's designed, shouldn't be stressful. You're pushing beyond your movement limits if a position is stressful to hold and you're not likely to keep that flexibility.


Tell that to the players that have now embraced yoga:

http://m.jsonline.com/263048921.htm

Are you really saying that joint mobility increases wouldn't prevent injury?

And you can absolutely lose weight doing yoga (as Micah Hyde had in college), as holding positions for extended periods of time can be physically taxing. Especially if performing it in a hot environment.

I'm surprised it has taken this long for yoga to have caught on in the NFL. It's been proven to improve flexibility (for literally thousands of years), which decreases the likelihood of muscle-related injuries.

Perhaps it's the overemphasis on "bodybuilding" principles in old-school strength and conditioning.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PackersTK21 wrote:
GBPackers79 wrote:
Tongue-Splitter wrote:
I just wanna know how it's possible to lose 11 pounds from doing yoga. Like... Is it just the stress relief that made him lose 11 pounds? Maybe I should read the article, but... I just don't get it.


GBPackers79 wrote:
1 - He didn't lose weight from doing yoga, those were two separate thoughts.


This.

So much fail around this thread, losing weight from yoga, and the mystique that yoga in the NFL has around it. Yoga doesn't prevent you from cracking your collarbone, folks. Stretching doesn't prevent injuries at all, really. Like Olivia Munn's sister, I'm also a physical therapist. And yoga how it's designed, shouldn't be stressful. You're pushing beyond your movement limits if a position is stressful to hold and you're not likely to keep that flexibility.


You lost me at the bolded area. While it's true that you can get injured despite stretching, stretching (correctly) absolutely helps prevent certain injury types. Just like practicing springing (correctly) makes you better at sprinting. As a runner, I know firsthand how important it is to stretch and the nagging injuries that can creep up on you (hamstring, achilles, etc) if you neglect stretching. Honestly, I feel like Yoga and Pilates should probably be a core supplement to the strength work that each NFL team does at this point. If they aren't using principles from these by this point they are doing a disservice to their players. I'm happy that the Packers players are putting a strong emphasis on their flexibility. I think it will pay dividends in the future. Hopefully less hammy issues!
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Please site the proper research information that demonstrates that increased flexibility reduces injuries, muscular ones or others.

Please elaborate on what correctly stretching is and what is not.
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squire12 wrote:
Please site the proper research information that demonstrates that increased flexibility reduces injuries, muscular ones or others.

Please elaborate on what correctly stretching is and what is not.


Seriously?
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squire12 wrote:
Please site the proper research information that demonstrates that increased flexibility reduces injuries, muscular ones or others.

Please elaborate on what correctly stretching is and what is not.


Seriously?


Well I haven't really seen the world be spherical for my own two eyes, so I may need some evidence of that while you're at it.
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incognito_man wrote:
Tongue-Splitter wrote:
I just wanna know how it's possible to lose 11 pounds from doing yoga. Like... Is it just the stress relief that made him lose 11 pounds? Maybe I should read the article, but... I just don't get it.


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BobSacamano wrote:
incognito_man wrote:
Tongue-Splitter wrote:
I just wanna know how it's possible to lose 11 pounds from doing yoga. Like... Is it just the stress relief that made him lose 11 pounds? Maybe I should read the article, but... I just don't get it.


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How many pounds could the fat man Eddie Lacy lose if he started doing yoga? Shocked
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squire12 wrote:
Please site the proper research information that demonstrates that increased flexibility reduces injuries, muscular ones or others.

Please elaborate on what correctly stretching is and what is not.


I'm speaking from personal experience. Stretching using the proper form and gradually increasing your flexibility aids in injury prevention.
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blankman0021 wrote:
squire12 wrote:
Please site the proper research information that demonstrates that increased flexibility reduces injuries, muscular ones or others.

Please elaborate on what correctly stretching is and what is not.


I'm speaking from personal experience. Stretching using the proper form and gradually increasing your flexibility aids in injury prevention.

From experience: I dated a gymnast. She could do things that I'd die attempting.
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24100287

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Br J Sports Med. 2014 Jun;48(11):871-7. doi: 10.1136/bjsports-2013-092538. Epub 2013 Oct 7.
The effectiveness of exercise interventions to prevent sports injuries: a systematic review and meta-analysis of randomised controlled trials.
Lauersen JB1, Bertelsen DM, Andersen LB.
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Abstract
BACKGROUND:
Physical activity is important in both prevention and treatment of many common diseases, but sports injuries can pose serious problems.
OBJECTIVE:
To determine whether physical activity exercises can reduce sports injuries and perform stratified analyses of strength training, stretching, proprioception and combinations of these, and provide separate acute and overuse injury estimates.
MATERIAL AND METHODS:
PubMed, EMBASE, Web of Science and SPORTDiscus were searched and yielded 3462 results. Two independent authors selected relevant randomised, controlled trials and quality assessments were conducted by all authors of this paper using the Cochrane collaboration domain-based quality assessment tool. Twelve studies that neglected to account for clustering effects were adjusted. Quantitative analyses were performed in STATA V.12 and sensitivity analysed by intention-to-treat. Heterogeneity (I(2)) and publication bias (Harbord's small-study effects) were formally tested.
RESULTS:
25 trials, including 26 610 participants with 3464 injuries, were analysed. The overall effect estimate on injury prevention was heterogeneous. Stratified exposure analyses proved no beneficial effect for stretching (RR 0.963 (0.846-1.095)), whereas studies with multiple exposures (RR 0.655 (0.520-0.826)), proprioception training (RR 0.550 (0.347-0.869)), and strength training (RR 0.315 (0.207-0.480)) showed a tendency towards increasing effect. Both acute injuries (RR 0.647 (0.502-0.836)) and overuse injuries (RR 0.527 (0.373-0.746)) could be reduced by physical activity programmes. Intention-to-treat sensitivity analyses consistently revealed even more robust effect estimates.
CONCLUSIONS:
Despite a few outlying studies, consistently favourable estimates were obtained for all injury prevention measures except for stretching. Strength training reduced sports injuries to less than 1/3 and overuse injuries could be almost halved.
KEYWORDS:
Evidence based reviews; Injury Prevention; Orthopaedics; Sporting injuries; Training


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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21735382

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Cochrane Database Syst Rev. 2011 Jul 6;(7):CD001256. doi: 10.1002/14651858.CD001256.pub2.
Interventions for preventing lower limb soft-tissue running injuries.
Yeung SS1, Yeung EW, Gillespie LD.
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BACKGROUND:
Overuse soft-tissue injuries occur frequently in runners. Stretching exercises, modification of training schedules, and the use of protective devices such as braces and insoles are often advocated for prevention. This is an update of a review first published in 2001.
OBJECTIVES:
To assess the effects of interventions for preventing lower limb soft-tissue running injuries.
SEARCH STRATEGY:
We searched the Cochrane Bone, Joint and Muscle Trauma Group Specialised Register (March 2011); The Cochrane Library 2010, Issue 4; MEDLINE (1966 to January 2011); EMBASE (1980 to January 2011); and international trial registries (17 January 2011).
SELECTION CRITERIA:
Randomised or quasi-randomised trials evaluating interventions to prevent lower limb soft-tissue running injuries.
DATA COLLECTION AND ANALYSIS:
Two authors independently assessed risk of bias (relating to sequence generation, allocation concealment, blinding, incomplete outcome data) and extracted data. Data were adjusted for clustering if necessary and pooled using the fixed-effect model when appropriate.
MAIN RESULTS:
We included 25 trials (30,252 participants). Participants were military recruits (19 trials), runners from the general population (three trials), soccer referees (one trial), and prisoners (two trials). The interventions tested in the included trials fell into four main preventive strategies: exercises, modification of training schedules, use of orthoses, and footwear and socks. All 25 included trials were judged as 'unclear' or 'high' risk of bias for at least one of the four domains listed above.We found no evidence that stretching reduces lower limb soft-tissue injuries (6 trials; 5130 participants; risk ratio [RR] 0.85, 95% confidence interval [95% CI] 0.65 to 1.12). As with all non-significant results, this is compatible with either a reduction or an increase in soft-tissue injuries. We found no evidence to support a training regimen of conditioning exercises to improve strength, flexibility and coordination (one trial; 1020 participants; RR 1.20, 95% CI 0.77 to 1.87).We found no evidence that a longer, more gradual increase in training reduces injuries in novice runners (one trial; 486 participants; RR 1.02, 95% CI 0.72 to 1.45). There was some evidence from a poor quality trial that additional training resulted in a significant increase in the number of naval recruits with shin splints (one trial; 1670 participants; RR 2.02, 95% CI 1.11 to 3.70). There was limited evidence that injuries were less frequent in prisoners when running duration (one trial; 69 participants; RR 0.41, 95% CI 0.21 to 0.79) or frequency (one trial; 58 participants; RR 0.19, 95% CI 0.06 to 0.66) were reduced.Patellofemoral braces appear to be effective for preventing anterior knee pain (two trials; 227 participants; RR 0.41, 95% CI 0.24 to 0.67).Custom-made biomechanical insoles may be more effective than no insoles for reducing shin splints (medial tibial stress syndrome) in military recruits (one trial; 146 participants; RR 0.24, 95% CI 0.08 to 0.69).We found no evidence in military recruits that wearing running shoes based on foot shape, rather than standard running shoes, significantly reduced rate of running injuries (2 trials; 5795 participants; Rate Ratio 1.03, 95% CI 0.93 to 1.14).
AUTHORS' CONCLUSIONS:
Overall, the evidence base for the effectiveness of interventions to reduce soft-tissue injury after intensive running is very weak, with few trials at low risk of bias. More well-designed and reported RCTs are needed that test interventions in recreational and competitive runners.
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