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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 5:25 pm    Post subject: Ravens RB Ray Rice is facing a multi-game suspension by NFL Reply with quote

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NFL source says Ray Rice faces multi-game suspension likely, the source says, "an extremely significant one."


https://twitter.com/mikefreemanNFL/status/469966616726601728

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What qualifies as "significant?" I'm not sure. I just know what is a near certainty is that Rice will be suspended.


https://twitter.com/mikefreemanNFL/status/469967688711045120


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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mortensen was just on ESPN and said that the video of Ray and Janay inside of the elevator is real and the NFL has or will see it and take action. Apparently Ray hit her twice after she hit him and Janay's head hit the railing and that's what caused her to be knocked out. I wonder what "extremely significant" is alluding to. To me that sounds like a year but maybe it's only eight games.
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

coordinator0 wrote:
Mortensen was just on ESPN and said that the video of Ray and Janay inside of the elevator is real and the NFL has or will see it and take action. Apparently Ray hit her twice after she hit him and Janay's head hit the railing and that's what caused her to be knocked out. I wonder what "extremely significant" is alluding to. To me that sounds like a year but maybe it's only eight games.


Bolded is the only relevant fact to me. It's a joke if he gets suspended at all.

Shouldn't have done a public apology either. That's just conceding that what you did is as bad as everyone thinks it is.
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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coordinator0 wrote:
Mortensen was just on ESPN and said that the video of Ray and Janay inside of the elevator is real and the NFL has or will see it and take action. Apparently Ray hit her twice after she hit him and Janay's head hit the railing and that's what caused her to be knocked out. I wonder what "extremely significant" is alluding to. To me that sounds like a year but maybe it's only eight games.


Bolded is the only relevant fact to me. It's a joke if he gets suspended at all.

Shouldn't have done a public apology either. That's just conceding that what you did is as bad as everyone thinks it is.


Two wrongs don't make a right and at the end of the day he is a grown man with the strength of a professional athlete. There isn't even any real justification like, "wrong place, wrong time." If there is indisputable evidence that he knocked her out cold, which it sounds like there is, we should cut him. Players come and go. The character of the Ravens organization is more important.

I don't know where you work but if an employee at your company was arrested for knocking his girlfriend out cold in a casino and everyone in the company saw the video and/or was talking about it, how long do you think they would stay employed there? I don't believe we should give a free pass because we are fans.
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea, he'll be suspended a few games, as expected.

First two games are important ones against the Bengals and Steelers, so it kind of sucks.
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't be surprised if wins an appeal. He's a first time offender and a suspension wouldn't be consistent. I can't see the NFLPA just letting Roger do whatever he wants based on his own personal morals.

@jpeter15.... we should cut him now?! Seriously?
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Whoever advise him and his wife to do a press conference should be fired. Not only should he not have done one bbut what he said and how he said it was terrible. Him and his wife looked terrible together. Look like two strangers sitting there. If I'm ray rice I watch the reply of that and immediately fire all my pr people.
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DontTazeMeBro wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if wins an appeal. He's a first time offender and a suspension wouldn't be consistent. I can't see the NFLPA just letting Roger do whatever he wants based on his own personal morals.

@jpeter15.... we should cut him now?! Seriously?


I really wouldn't mind if we cut him. A highly public, exorbitantly high paying job isn't really the place for 2nd chances and rehabilitation, IMO.

However, that's really not how it is. The league as a whole doesn't see or treat it that way.
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wackywabbit wrote:
DontTazeMeBro wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if wins an appeal. He's a first time offender and a suspension wouldn't be consistent. I can't see the NFLPA just letting Roger do whatever he wants based on his own personal morals.

@jpeter15.... we should cut him now?! Seriously?


I really wouldn't mind if we cut him. A highly public, exorbitantly high paying job isn't really the place for 2nd chances and rehabilitation, IMO.

However, that's really not how it is. The league as a whole doesn't see or treat it that way.


Rehab? He doesn't need rehab. It happened one time. He wasn't even in the wrong. She hit him 1st. And it's an exorbitantly high paying job because of the limited number of people on Earth who can do it. If there's any job for 2nd chances it's that one.
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the 49ers haven't released Aldon Smith yet, we ain't releasing Ray Rice.

But yeah that press conference was a giant disaster. What a train wreck.
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DontTazeMeBro wrote:
wackywabbit wrote:
DontTazeMeBro wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if wins an appeal. He's a first time offender and a suspension wouldn't be consistent. I can't see the NFLPA just letting Roger do whatever he wants based on his own personal morals.

@jpeter15.... we should cut him now?! Seriously?


I really wouldn't mind if we cut him. A highly public, exorbitantly high paying job isn't really the place for 2nd chances and rehabilitation, IMO.

However, that's really not how it is. The league as a whole doesn't see or treat it that way.


Rehab? He doesn't need rehab. It happened one time. He wasn't even in the wrong. She hit him 1st. And it's an exorbitantly high paying job because of the limited number of people on Earth who can do it. If there's any job for 2nd chances it's that one.


They are entertainers. They make money because of how much people like and support their team. If you make your organization look bad, you're not doing your job better than a scrub who kept his nose clean.

I have no problem with athletes being paid a ton of money. I just wish the league had higher character standards for the guys the portray as role models. The league wouldn't really suffer if they were stricter with that. I'm OK with missing out on seeing a few elite players like Blackmon or Gordon if it means they are not putting millions in the pockets of idiots.
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

People don't stop watching teams because players get in trouble. They absolutely will stop watching if a team sucks.
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jpeter15 wrote:
Two wrongs don't make a right and at the end of the day he is a grown man with the strength of a professional athlete. There isn't even any real justification like, "wrong place, wrong time." If there is indisputable evidence that he knocked her out cold, which it sounds like there is, we should cut him. Players come and go. The character of the Ravens organization is more important.

I don't know where you work but if an employee at your company was arrested for knocking his girlfriend out cold in a casino and everyone in the company saw the video and/or was talking about it, how long do you think they would stay employed there? I don't believe we should give a free pass because we are fans.


That definitely won't happen this season since it would cause Baltimore to take a $5 million salary cap hit. Now next year it'll be a different matter, especially if Taliaferro (or to a lesser extent Pierce again) shows anything promising. If or when Rice is able to play and he does so well then I'd be surprised if Baltimore cut him though. This isn't quite the kind of thing that would lead them to hurt the team by making an example out of someone in my opinion.

I don't think Ray should get out of this unpunished. Whether or not he was the first to make a move doesn't matter much to me, he still did something that was obviously wrong and really bad. As did Janay, but in the eyes of fans the league can't really do anything to her specifically so it's kind of seen as unfair that Ray will be penalized and that hurts the Ravens while she goes "unscathed" (as his wife anything that happens to him will hurt her too). Whatever ends up happening I highly doubt there's any middle-ground outcome that makes most happy.
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DontTazeMeBro wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if wins an appeal. He's a first time offender and a suspension wouldn't be consistent. I can't see the NFLPA just letting Roger do whatever he wants based on his own personal morals.

@jpeter15.... we should cut him now?! Seriously?


Yeah, basically because I don't worry about how it affects our cap. RB can be replaced easily and cheap first of all and second of all, 2 years from now he is gone anyway, let's think longterm.

And just to be clear, I am 95% sure Ray is on the team next year, I won't be upset if he is, I will just disagree, I also think he will have a great year in the new system (as long as this doesn't distract him). Finally, I actually think Ray is still a decent guy that made a stupid mistake. I just think he should be punished heavily by it.

Maybe my preference would be to suspend him for conduct detrimental to the team so he doesn't have the opportunity to sign with another team and have a huge year elsewhere which isn't exactly a punishment. (99% sure that won't happen).
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jpeter15 wrote:
DontTazeMeBro wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if wins an appeal. He's a first time offender and a suspension wouldn't be consistent. I can't see the NFLPA just letting Roger do whatever he wants based on his own personal morals.

@jpeter15.... we should cut him now?! Seriously?


Yeah, basically because I don't worry about how it affects our cap. RB can be replaced easily and cheap first of all and second of all, 2 years from now he is gone anyway, let's think longterm.


You absolutely cannot easily replace what a 100% Ray Rice does on a football field. He's a matchup nightmare in the passing game and at any point in a game can score from anywhere on the field. He's not just a RB. He's a weapon. How does it help us long term not to get every ounce of good play he has left?
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