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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see Bridgewater as being a great QB. Somewhere between Matt Ryan and Drew Brees. Perennial Pro Bowl player.

I think Manziel will be a superstar, but never an elite passer. Similar to Michael Vick before the dog fighting. He will be the best QB in Browns' history.

I see Bortles stick around for 10 years as a low-end starter. Somewhere between Alex Smith and Matt Cassel or Matt Schaub. Not a terrible player but definitely not worth the 3rd overall pick.

Same thing for Carr. He will get a shot at starting in Oakland but I don't see him turning into anything more than an inconsistent, low-end starter. He probably won't last more than 4 years in Oakland.

I don't think any of the other guys will do anything notable.
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^I think it will be tough for him to surpass Otto Graham (114-20-4), IMHO.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Graham
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it appears Manziel texted the Browns owner from NYC during the draft and wrote:

"I wish you guys would come get me. Hurry up and draft me because I want to be there. I want to wreck this league together."

and then according to their QB coach,

“As soon as that happened, Mr. Haslam said, ‘Pull the trigger. We’re trading up to go get this guy,’” Loggains told Bo Mattingly of ESPN Arkansas, via Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/16/loggains-haslam-said-pull-the-trigger-on-manziel/
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is joke show
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Browns quarterbacks coach Dowell Loggains said in a radio interview Thursday that a text from Johnny Manziel during the draft helped inspire owner Jimmy Haslam to trade up for him.

"We're sitting there and they keep showing Johnny on T.V. and Johnny and I are texting and he shoots me a text and he says, 'I wish you guys would come get me. Hurry up and draft me because I want to be there. I want to wreck this league together.'

"When I got that text, I forwarded it to the owner and to the head coach (Mike Pettine),'' Loggains said Thursday on Sports Talk with Bo Mattingly on Arkansas ESPN. "I'm like 'this guy wants to be here. He wants to be part of it.' As soon as that happened, Mr. Haslam said, 'pull the trigger. We're trading up to go get this guy.'''

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/05/johnnys_manziels_hurry_up_and.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have from an un-named inside source close to the team that he actually texted:

I wish you guys would foreget me. Hurry up and pass me because I want to be spared. You are the wreck of the League and cold weather.

But he forgot to turn off his NFL issued iPhone auto-correct.

Them's the breaks.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vike daddy wrote:
Browns quarterbacks coach Dowell Loggains said in a radio interview Thursday that a text from Johnny Manziel during the draft helped inspire owner Jimmy Haslam to trade up for him.

"We're sitting there and they keep showing Johnny on T.V. and Johnny and I are texting and he shoots me a text and he says, 'I wish you guys would come get me. Hurry up and draft me because I want to be there. I want to wreck this league together.'

"When I got that text, I forwarded it to the owner and to the head coach (Mike Pettine),'' Loggains said Thursday on Sports Talk with Bo Mattingly on Arkansas ESPN. "I'm like 'this guy wants to be here. He wants to be part of it.' As soon as that happened, Mr. Haslam said, 'pull the trigger. We're trading up to go get this guy.'''

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/05/johnnys_manziels_hurry_up_and.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter


LOL.


That's hilarious that a text messaged convinced the Browns brass to bypass their "study" and just say, "EFF IT, WE'RE DOING IT".

hilarious.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think 'ol Johnny wanted to escape the embarrassment (and lower pay) of being a 2nd round pick.

hey, Teddy barely did!
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vike daddy wrote:
i think 'ol Johnny wanted to escape the embarrassment (and lower pay) of being a 2nd round pick.

hey, Teddy barely did!


I wonder if Krauser would pyschoanalyze that move by Manziel and conclude he showed insecurity with himself?

I wonder if he was texting every team that needed a QB with the same schtick.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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"When I got that text, I forwarded it to the owner and to the head coach (Mike Pettine),'' Loggains said Thursday on Sports Talk with Bo Mattingly on Arkansas ESPN. "I'm like 'this guy wants to be here. He wants to be part of it.' As soon as that happened, Mr. Haslam said, 'pull the trigger. We're trading up to go get this guy.''

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/05/johnnys_manziels_hurry_up_and.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

do adults in positions of responsibility actually say "I'm like..."

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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think every QB with any significant amount of confidence (or selfishness) would like to be known as the guy who "resurrected the Browns." That franchise has been so sorry since they themselves were resurrected. Tim Couch and Brady Quinn both failed at that, it's now Johnny's turn.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vike daddy wrote:
Quote:
"When I got that text, I forwarded it to the owner and to the head coach (Mike Pettine),'' Loggains said Thursday on Sports Talk with Bo Mattingly on Arkansas ESPN. "I'm like 'this guy wants to be here. He wants to be part of it.' As soon as that happened, Mr. Haslam said, 'pull the trigger. We're trading up to go get this guy.''

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/05/johnnys_manziels_hurry_up_and.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

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He may have watched Clueless too many times, so it became part of his vocab. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

whatEVER....
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess that puts to rest the notion that he didn't want to go to Cleveland. I like it from him.

It can be interpreted two ways from the Browns perspective, but I think they would've taken him in their original spot all along, this just confirmed the idea of trading up for him.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last I checked this is a thread about which QB's will succeed not a thread about clueless or what people in the NFL say.

IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS RANDOM THINGS THEN DO IT HERE:

http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=18147767#18147767
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