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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2014 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nice! A lot of Middle represented here Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2014 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I grew to like Mett more and more as the process went on. I can truly say, if Locker doesn't work out, I'd be fine with him as QB. I love the way Cam speaks of him.

I know Whiz wants a gym rat and if they put as much energy into scouting him as Cam makes it seem, then they got the guy they wanted.

I'm pulling for Locker, but won't be mad if Mett eventually ends up being the guy.
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This was the most intriguing pick of the draft to me.

First of all, I really like Ruston Webster as a general manager. I think this guy knows how to scout and he picks guys that he believes are good fits and have a chance to be successful.

This is the first time we've seen what kind of quarterback Ruston Webster believes will be successful or fit on this team. Zach Mettenberger is a guy who played against some of the highest levels of competition in college football. He's got experience in front of huge crowds and in high-pressure situations. I think without the knee injury or character concerns this guy is a third-rounder or higher. He's definitely got the arm you look for.

I really think he's got the talent to be one of those guys where we sit there and look back and say: "How the hell did this guy last until Round 6?" So much upside here. And if he flames out, well, it's not like we really expected great things out of Mr. Sixth Round Pick, anyway. Low-risk, high reward draft choice. When Locker goes down, I really hope they consider giving Mettenberger some PT.
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SpacemanSpiff wrote:
This was the most intriguing pick of the draft to me.

First of all, I really like Ruston Webster as a general manager. I think this guy knows how to scout and he picks guys that he believes are good fits and have a chance to be successful.

This is the first time we've seen what kind of quarterback Ruston Webster believes will be successful or fit on this team. Zach Mettenberger is a guy who played against some of the highest levels of competition in college football. He's got experience in front of huge crowds and in high-pressure situations. I think without the knee injury or character concerns this guy is a third-rounder or higher. He's definitely got the arm you look for.

I really think he's got the talent to be one of those guys where we sit there and look back and say: "How the hell did this guy last until Round 6?" So much upside here. And if he flames out, well, it's not like we really expected great things out of Mr. Sixth Round Pick, anyway. Low-risk, high reward draft choice. When Locker goes down, I really hope they consider giving Mettenberger some PT.


Webster was GM when Locker was picked.

Unless you're saying that he didn't have as much say in picks back then as he does now, in which case, ignore my statement.
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TitanLegend wrote:
SpacemanSpiff wrote:
This was the most intriguing pick of the draft to me.

First of all, I really like Ruston Webster as a general manager. I think this guy knows how to scout and he picks guys that he believes are good fits and have a chance to be successful.

This is the first time we've seen what kind of quarterback Ruston Webster believes will be successful or fit on this team. Zach Mettenberger is a guy who played against some of the highest levels of competition in college football. He's got experience in front of huge crowds and in high-pressure situations. I think without the knee injury or character concerns this guy is a third-rounder or higher. He's definitely got the arm you look for.

I really think he's got the talent to be one of those guys where we sit there and look back and say: "How the hell did this guy last until Round 6?" So much upside here. And if he flames out, well, it's not like we really expected great things out of Mr. Sixth Round Pick, anyway. Low-risk, high reward draft choice. When Locker goes down, I really hope they consider giving Mettenberger some PT.


Webster was GM when Locker was picked.

Unless you're saying that he didn't have as much say in picks back then as he does now, in which case, ignore my statement.


Actually he wasn't, Reinfeldt was. Webster worked under him as VP of player personnel.
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ttitansfan4life wrote:
TitanLegend wrote:
SpacemanSpiff wrote:
This was the most intriguing pick of the draft to me.

First of all, I really like Ruston Webster as a general manager. I think this guy knows how to scout and he picks guys that he believes are good fits and have a chance to be successful.

This is the first time we've seen what kind of quarterback Ruston Webster believes will be successful or fit on this team. Zach Mettenberger is a guy who played against some of the highest levels of competition in college football. He's got experience in front of huge crowds and in high-pressure situations. I think without the knee injury or character concerns this guy is a third-rounder or higher. He's definitely got the arm you look for.

I really think he's got the talent to be one of those guys where we sit there and look back and say: "How the hell did this guy last until Round 6?" So much upside here. And if he flames out, well, it's not like we really expected great things out of Mr. Sixth Round Pick, anyway. Low-risk, high reward draft choice. When Locker goes down, I really hope they consider giving Mettenberger some PT.


Webster was GM when Locker was picked.

Unless you're saying that he didn't have as much say in picks back then as he does now, in which case, ignore my statement.


Actually he wasn't, Reinfeldt was. Webster worked under him as VP of player personnel.


Ohh...

For some reason I thought Webster took over in Munch's first year as HC.

Should have double checked.

Sorry, Spiff.
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Was listening to the radio the other day that more or less Reindfeldt was the GM, but his main purpose was cap specialist and contracts. It was Webster who dealt more with finding personnel. So though Reidfeldt's name is attached to Locker. Webster wanted him too.
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Chocolateman78 wrote:
Was listening to the radio the other day that more or less Reindfeldt was the GM, but his main purpose was cap specialist and contracts. It was Webster who dealt more with finding personnel. So though Reidfeldt's name is attached to Locker. Webster wanted him too.


Interesting.

Speaking of cap specialist/contracts, though, Webster has been a genius with those. Always signing contracts that we can get out of with little to no cap hit.
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Mettenberger is nothing special. It's annoying watching all the LSU fanboys gush over him in this forum. He will maybe be a #2 in a couple years. No chance of taking Locker's job. Seriously, stop being dumb...
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Mettenberger is nothing special. It's annoying watching all the LSU fanboys gush over him in this forum. He will maybe be a #2 in a couple years. No chance of taking Locker's job. Seriously, stop being dumb...


Confused Don't think anybody is a "LSU Fanboy" is this forum so..... Locker is the guy until he gets hurt... Then what?
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VondyP wrote:
Mettenberger is nothing special. It's annoying watching all the LSU fanboys gush over him in this forum. He will maybe be a #2 in a couple years. No chance of taking Locker's job. Seriously, stop being dumb...


Mettenberger is very special, in terms of his physical gifts.

Pros

-Arm Strength
-Accuracy
-NFL Offense

Cons

-Footwork (coachable)
-Decision Making (coachable)
-Impatient at times (coachable)
-Immature (coachable)
-Statue in the pocket

He offers immense return in terms of what he can bring to our franchise, in comparison to where he was drafted. I thought he was the best QB in the entire draft, i am also probably his biggest fan in Titania, and that was well before the draft.

I don't think there has ever been a 6th round quarterback quite like him. Yes players taken in his place and lower have been successful (Brady, Romo, Warner) but he is a first round talent at a position that rarely see's that level of talent slip past the 4th. However to to concerns with his character, and injury, he fell all the way to the 6th.

So when you say he is nothing special, i could not disagree with you more, and i will do you one further, the word that i believe is best suited for Zach is in fact "special" the kid has talent and if he is willing to work hard, and Ken Wisenhunt and his staff give him a proper shot, he will be our QB of the future.
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..give him a proper shot, he will be our QB of the future.


You may be right: Wiz got his guy.
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Look I'm excited about Mettenberger too, but he's being over hyped to an extreme on this forum. I believe there are two reasons for this. 1st the name recognition of playing in the south for Georgia then LSU. Second is that he fits the rigid qualifications "Whiz QB" that every Titans has just blindly accepted.

Truth is Mett fell to the 6th for a reason. I don't think it was injury either because two prospects Brandon Thompson and Aaron Colvin (think those were the two) both tore ACLs after Mettenberger and both got drafted higher than Mettenberger. Had anyone truly had a high grade on Mettenberger I believe they would have took a flyer on him WELL before round 6. If teams TRULY thought he could easily overcome the injury and become a starter, somebody would have taken him earlier. If he were TRUELY "Whiz's Guy" all along, they would have taken him earlier and not risked losing him in the 6th. He was good value where he was at sure. However he was probably more of a 4-5th round talent that got picked in the 6th than 1st or 2nd round talent in the 6th, the latter of which is what so many Titans steadfastly believe. Even if he never suffers an injury, I don't think Mett goes in the top 80 picks.

I keep coming back to this but the two QB's Mettenberger reminds me of the most is Chad Henne and failed Whizenhunt project John Skelton. All three are huge, big armed, and molasses footed. all were considered steals based on arm talent and where they fell in the draft. One is a mediocre QB, one is a bad one, and we'll see about Mett. I will say this, if Locker fails, I don't think Mett isn't the QB of the future, I don't believe that guy has been found yet.
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Look I'm excited about Mettenberger too, but he's being over hyped to an extreme on this forum. I believe there are two reasons for this. 1st the name recognition of playing in the south for Georgia then LSU. Second is that he fits the rigid qualifications "Whiz QB" that every Titans has just blindly accepted.

Truth is Mett fell to the 6th for a reason. I don't think it was injury either because two prospects Brandon Thompson and Aaron Colvin (think those were the two) both tore ACLs after Mettenberger and both got drafted higher than Mettenberger. Had anyone truly had a high grade on Mettenberger I believe they would have took a flyer on him WELL before round 6. If teams TRULY thought he could easily overcome the injury and become a starter, somebody would have taken him earlier. If he were TRUELY "Whiz's Guy" all along, they would have taken him earlier and not risked losing him in the 6th. He was good value where he was at sure. However he was probably more of a 4-5th round talent that got picked in the 6th than 1st or 2nd round talent in the 6th, the latter of which is what so many Titans steadfastly believe. Even if he never suffers an injury, I don't think Mett goes in the top 80 picks.

I keep coming back to this but the two QB's Mettenberger reminds me of the most is Chad Henne and failed Whizenhunt project John Skelton. All three are huge, big armed, and molasses footed. all were considered steals based on arm talent and where they fell in the draft. One is a mediocre QB, one is a bad one, and we'll see about Mett. I will say this, if Locker fails, I don't think Mett isn't the QB of the future, I don't believe that guy has been found yet.

Thank you. The overhyping of Mettenberger is crazy.
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Look I'm excited about Mettenberger too, but he's being over hyped to an extreme on this forum. I believe there are two reasons for this. 1st the name recognition of playing in the south for Georgia then LSU. Second is that he fits the rigid qualifications "Whiz QB" that every Titans has just blindly accepted.

Truth is Mett fell to the 6th for a reason. I don't think it was injury either because two prospects Brandon Thompson and Aaron Colvin (think those were the two) both tore ACLs after Mettenberger and both got drafted higher than Mettenberger. Had anyone truly had a high grade on Mettenberger I believe they would have took a flyer on him WELL before round 6. If teams TRULY thought he could easily overcome the injury and become a starter, somebody would have taken him earlier. If he were TRUELY "Whiz's Guy" all along, they would have taken him earlier and not risked losing him in the 6th. He was good value where he was at sure. However he was probably more of a 4-5th round talent that got picked in the 6th than 1st or 2nd round talent in the 6th, the latter of which is what so many Titans steadfastly believe. Even if he never suffers an injury, I don't think Mett goes in the top 80 picks.

I keep coming back to this but the two QB's Mettenberger reminds me of the most is Chad Henne and failed Whizenhunt project John Skelton. All three are huge, big armed, and molasses footed. all were considered steals based on arm talent and where they fell in the draft. One is a mediocre QB, one is a bad one, and we'll see about Mett. I will say this, if Locker fails, I don't think Mett isn't the QB of the future, I don't believe that guy has been found yet.

Thank you. The overhyping of Mettenberger is crazy.


Yes. It's absolutely ridiculous. I understand having a young QB with a strong arm on your team is exciting, but if you watch Mettenberger play instead of looking at stats you realize that he played well below an NFL caliber level.

Jake Locker has an amazing work ethic, strong arm, great feet, and the brain you want in a QB and even without the injuries we wouldn't be certain he is our QB and yet people jump to conclusions saying that Mettenberger has a strong arm and played in a pro-style offense in the SEC so he's definitely qualified?

Just doesn't work that way.
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