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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I love the tenacity and relentlessness in Kiero small's game, wow he's impressive. Has an attitude on the field at all times.

I see a little bit of Mike Tolbert in him, but he favors blocking more than playmaking (which isn't a bad thing for us). Not bad acceleration for his size and is always falling forward. Beast.


what does this mean for Ware and Coleman? Are we going to be a more traditional offense with a blocking FB leading the way? I know he's a late round pick but he's one of the few FBs taken and we must have a plan for him. Can he catch?


Is Ware still PS eligible? If so, I'd bet we put him there and cut Coleman, with Small being our lone FB on the roster. We seem to be moving away from FB packages, so I doubt they keep 2, but I'm sure they want 1 guy on the active roster who can go in and blow up a hole for us when we need it. Also explains why we took Small over a guy like J.C. Copeland, considering Small actually has surprisingly good hands and flexibility in the receiving game.
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has Colt Lyerla signed as a UDFA yet? Cant' seem to find anything on him... I thought he'd find a home pretty quickly considering there was a dearth of talent in this draft after Amaro, ASJ and Ebron.
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Is everyone prepared for the greatest battle for 3rd string QB in history? The winner then will be relegated to the practice squad and then sign somewhere else...unless there is some injury concerns about Tavaris that's not getting out.
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Im begining to love "bowling ball small". This guys can freaking hit. He lives for a huge hit on a LB. And Look at those beautiful thighs.
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Is everyone prepared for the greatest battle for 3rd string QB in history? The winner then will be relegated to the practice squad and then sign somewhere else...unless there is some injury concerns about Tavaris that's not getting out.


Rather than carrying 2 FB`s I think we carry a 3rd QB. Pryor has value at TE and WR as well. I dont see him off the 53
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SoS wrote:
SwiftTexan wrote:
imani wrote:
I love the tenacity and relentlessness in Kiero small's game, wow he's impressive. Has an attitude on the field at all times.

I see a little bit of Mike Tolbert in him, but he favors blocking more than playmaking (which isn't a bad thing for us). Not bad acceleration for his size and is always falling forward. Beast.


what does this mean for Ware and Coleman? Are we going to be a more traditional offense with a blocking FB leading the way? I know he's a late round pick but he's one of the few FBs taken and we must have a plan for him. Can he catch?


Is Ware still PS eligible? If so, I'd bet we put him there and cut Coleman, with Small being our lone FB on the roster. We seem to be moving away from FB packages, so I doubt they keep 2, but I'm sure they want 1 guy on the active roster who can go in and blow up a hole for us when we need it. Also explains why we took Small over a guy like J.C. Copeland, considering Small actually has surprisingly good hands and flexibility in the receiving game.
Why is it already a foregone conclusion Small makes the active roster over Coleman?
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SoS wrote:
SwiftTexan wrote:
imani wrote:
I love the tenacity and relentlessness in Kiero small's game, wow he's impressive. Has an attitude on the field at all times.

I see a little bit of Mike Tolbert in him, but he favors blocking more than playmaking (which isn't a bad thing for us). Not bad acceleration for his size and is always falling forward. Beast.


what does this mean for Ware and Coleman? Are we going to be a more traditional offense with a blocking FB leading the way? I know he's a late round pick but he's one of the few FBs taken and we must have a plan for him. Can he catch?


Is Ware still PS eligible? If so, I'd bet we put him there and cut Coleman, with Small being our lone FB on the roster. We seem to be moving away from FB packages, so I doubt they keep 2, but I'm sure they want 1 guy on the active roster who can go in and blow up a hole for us when we need it. Also explains why we took Small over a guy like J.C. Copeland, considering Small actually has surprisingly good hands and flexibility in the receiving game.
Why is it already a foregone conclusion Small makes the active roster over Coleman?


Was wondering the same thing. Small's STs impact looks to be minimal at best.
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Tatupu_64 wrote:
SoS wrote:
SwiftTexan wrote:
imani wrote:
I love the tenacity and relentlessness in Kiero small's game, wow he's impressive. Has an attitude on the field at all times.

I see a little bit of Mike Tolbert in him, but he favors blocking more than playmaking (which isn't a bad thing for us). Not bad acceleration for his size and is always falling forward. Beast.


what does this mean for Ware and Coleman? Are we going to be a more traditional offense with a blocking FB leading the way? I know he's a late round pick but he's one of the few FBs taken and we must have a plan for him. Can he catch?


Is Ware still PS eligible? If so, I'd bet we put him there and cut Coleman, with Small being our lone FB on the roster. We seem to be moving away from FB packages, so I doubt they keep 2, but I'm sure they want 1 guy on the active roster who can go in and blow up a hole for us when we need it. Also explains why we took Small over a guy like J.C. Copeland, considering Small actually has surprisingly good hands and flexibility in the receiving game.
Why is it already a foregone conclusion Small makes the active roster over Coleman?


Because Coleman is half the run blocker Small is and they offer similar skills as receivers. Sure, you can point to special teams, but Small has a special teamers mentality.

But to stop you before you start, I never even hinted at it being a foregone conclusion. I said "I bet".
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I'm not expecting Small to be on the 53 either, just trying to imagine what the outcome would be if that happened.

Also - Silus: Neither Pyror nor Jackson are PS eligibile. If we carry 3 QBs, it'll have to be he final squad even if the 3rd stringer doesn't always dress.
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SoS wrote:
Tatupu_64 wrote:
SoS wrote:
SwiftTexan wrote:
imani wrote:
I love the tenacity and relentlessness in Kiero small's game, wow he's impressive. Has an attitude on the field at all times.

I see a little bit of Mike Tolbert in him, but he favors blocking more than playmaking (which isn't a bad thing for us). Not bad acceleration for his size and is always falling forward. Beast.


what does this mean for Ware and Coleman? Are we going to be a more traditional offense with a blocking FB leading the way? I know he's a late round pick but he's one of the few FBs taken and we must have a plan for him. Can he catch?


Is Ware still PS eligible? If so, I'd bet we put him there and cut Coleman, with Small being our lone FB on the roster. We seem to be moving away from FB packages, so I doubt they keep 2, but I'm sure they want 1 guy on the active roster who can go in and blow up a hole for us when we need it. Also explains why we took Small over a guy like J.C. Copeland, considering Small actually has surprisingly good hands and flexibility in the receiving game.
Why is it already a foregone conclusion Small makes the active roster over Coleman?


Because Coleman is half the run blocker Small is and they offer similar skills as receivers. Sure, you can point to special teams, but Small has a special teamers mentality.

But to stop you before you start, I never even hinted at it being a foregone conclusion. I said "I bet".
Exaggerations galore

He offers great pop on contact but that's not really to his advantage or disadvantage. All you need out of a FB is someone who can wall off defenders, he's hardly better at that than Coleman. He's really good at cut blocking but I don't see that transitioning with as much success against NFL athletes. He has soft hands but with how squat he is it really limits his catching radius. You might think that's a joke but I'm serious. He does a good enough job reading the hole but he's not some amazing natural at it. He's going to take time to develop in our offense just like Mike Rob did and Coleman will
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I'd say his vision as a blocker might be one of, if not the, best parts of game. It just comes natural to him, he finds a player to take out of the picture on EVERY run play I've seen on his tape. He'll have to improve in pass pro, but that makes him no different than 85% of RBs entering the league and it's not liked it's something that M-Rob or Coleman excel at tbh. It's kind of sad, but aside from the Britt addition and maybe JR sweezy, he punches defenders at the LOS as well as any of our lineman Laughing
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I'd say his vision as a blocker might be one of, if not the, best parts of game. It just comes natural to him, he finds a player to take out of the picture on EVERY run play I've seen on his tape. He'll have to improve in pass pro, but that makes him no different than 85% of RBs entering the league and it's not liked it's something that M-Rob or Coleman excel at tbh. It's kind of sad, but aside from the Britt addition and maybe JR sweezy, he punches defenders at the LOS as well as any of our lineman Laughing
Finding a guy to block is not the same thing as reading the hole correctly. He's more natural at it than Coleman but he's been playing FB longer. Coleman was largely a RB in college.

When I watch his tape, I'm not sure he has the quickness to improve as a pass blocker, once he commits, he's stuck. He's flatfooted when he tries to change direction
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I'd say his vision as a blocker might be one of, if not the, best parts of game. It just comes natural to him, he finds a player to take out of the picture on EVERY run play I've seen on his tape. He'll have to improve in pass pro, but that makes him no different than 85% of RBs entering the league and it's not liked it's something that M-Rob or Coleman excel at tbh. It's kind of sad, but aside from the Britt addition and maybe JR sweezy, he punches defenders at the LOS as well as any of our lineman Laughing
Finding a guy to block is not the same thing as reading the hole correctly


Is that, technically, all that good vision for a fullback entails?
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Tatupu_64 wrote:
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I'd say his vision as a blocker might be one of, if not the, best parts of game. It just comes natural to him, he finds a player to take out of the picture on EVERY run play I've seen on his tape. He'll have to improve in pass pro, but that makes him no different than 85% of RBs entering the league and it's not liked it's something that M-Rob or Coleman excel at tbh. It's kind of sad, but aside from the Britt addition and maybe JR sweezy, he punches defenders at the LOS as well as any of our lineman Laughing
Finding a guy to block is not the same thing as reading the hole correctly


Is that, technically, all that good vision for a fullback entails?
Nope. He goes where the play is pre-designed to go. Which, I know, sounds like a good thing. It's not necessarily bad, but if you watch Mike Rob at his best he and Lynch are in sync together. You'll see them both flow to the cutback lane. Lynch always says Mike Rob is his eyes, in other words, they're seeing the same holes open up

He's a good blocker, in reality probably a bit better than Coleman at this point. But twice as good? Not a chance
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SwiftTexan wrote:
I'm not expecting Small to be on the 53 either, just trying to imagine what the outcome would be if that happened.

Also - Silus: Neither Pyror nor Jackson are PS eligibile. If we carry 3 QBs, it'll have to be he final squad even if the 3rd stringer doesn't always dress.


Have you seen him lead block? The dude has a very legit shot at making this team. And when the ball is in his hands he does not go down. It takes 2-3 guys to bring him down. I think this is our starting FB. Coleman or Ware will be Practice squad and bowling ball small will bring our run game to another level. Think Mike Rob with more pancakes.
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