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Better QB?
Elway
15%
 15%  [ 12 ]
Marino
84%
 84%  [ 66 ]
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ChosenOne3188


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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaddHatter wrote:
BroncoSojia wrote:
FirstDownFaulk wrote:
7DnBrnc53 wrote:
Well, this board can't go one month without bashing Elway, so I am not surprised at this thread.

Dude....move on Laughing

Just because the vast majority of the civilized world doesn't share your opinion of John Elway, doesn't constitute them as "bashing" him.


Well actually, most sports writers and former GM/coaches have Elway in the top 5.

I'll take their opinion with more weight any day over armchair scouts on a message board.


(In no order)
Otto
Peyton
Brady
Marino
Montana

were all better than Elway so not seeing him even glimpsing the top 5


Unitas.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are 5 QBs in the NFL TODAY that I would have a hard time choosing Elway over.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There are 5 QBs in the NFL TODAY that I would have a hard time choosing Elway over.

Brees
Peyton
Brady
Rodgers
??????
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

7DnBrnc53 wrote:
Well, this board can't go one month without bashing Elway, so I am not surprised at this thread.


Come now, Elway was a great QB but Marino was one of the best ever. Just because he's losing this poll isn't a slam on Elway.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who has more rings? Feels good to finally be able to argue on this side. Cool
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThePrimeTime12 wrote:
Who has more rings? Feels good to finally be able to argue on this side. Cool

The "ring" argument only holds weight when all other arguments are comparable (statistics, wins, etc.). It's essentially a "tie-breaker". John Elway, was never a good passer, but he was a good quarterback the final 5-6 years of his career. In terms of statistics, winning percentage, regular season accomplishments, etc....John Elway is very average and doesn't really stand out in any facet aside from longevity and durability.

He was Eli Manning before there was Eli Manning.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i almost feel like, to compare it to QB's today, it's like comparing Aaron Rodgers to a 2nd tier QB like Ben Roethlisberger.

Elway is a good QB but Marino is one of the best ever.
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FirstDownFaulk wrote:
ThePrimeTime12 wrote:
Who has more rings? Feels good to finally be able to argue on this side. Cool

The "ring" argument only holds weight when all other arguments are comparable (statistics, wins, etc.). It's essentially a "tie-breaker". John Elway, was never a good passer, but he was a good quarterback the final 5-6 years of his career. In terms of statistics, winning percentage, regular season accomplishments, etc....John Elway is very average and doesn't really stand out in any facet aside from longevity and durability.

He was Eli Manning before there was Eli Manning.

Well Eli owns Brady's soul, which soul did Elway own? I'll take John "2 rings" Elway over Dan "No Rings" Marino.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThePrimeTime12 wrote:
FirstDownFaulk wrote:
ThePrimeTime12 wrote:
Who has more rings? Feels good to finally be able to argue on this side. Cool

The "ring" argument only holds weight when all other arguments are comparable (statistics, wins, etc.). It's essentially a "tie-breaker". John Elway, was never a good passer, but he was a good quarterback the final 5-6 years of his career. In terms of statistics, winning percentage, regular season accomplishments, etc....John Elway is very average and doesn't really stand out in any facet aside from longevity and durability.

He was Eli Manning before there was Eli Manning.

Well Eli owns Brady's soul, which soul did Elway own? I'll take John "2 rings" Elway over Dan "No Rings" Marino.


The whole rings argument is just such bad logic.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThePrimeTime12 wrote:
FirstDownFaulk wrote:
ThePrimeTime12 wrote:
Who has more rings? Feels good to finally be able to argue on this side. Cool

The "ring" argument only holds weight when all other arguments are comparable (statistics, wins, etc.). It's essentially a "tie-breaker". John Elway, was never a good passer, but he was a good quarterback the final 5-6 years of his career. In terms of statistics, winning percentage, regular season accomplishments, etc....John Elway is very average and doesn't really stand out in any facet aside from longevity and durability.

He was Eli Manning before there was Eli Manning.

Well Eli owns Brady's soul, which soul did Elway own? I'll take John "2 rings" Elway over Dan "No Rings" Marino.

What does Brady have to do with anything?? You're sour Laughing

Anyone that knows anything, knows the Terrell Davis won those Super Bowls for the Broncos and not Elway. Over 1200 yards and 11 touchdowns in those SEVEN games.....
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThePrimeTime12 wrote:
FirstDownFaulk wrote:
ThePrimeTime12 wrote:
Who has more rings? Feels good to finally be able to argue on this side. Cool

The "ring" argument only holds weight when all other arguments are comparable (statistics, wins, etc.). It's essentially a "tie-breaker". John Elway, was never a good passer, but he was a good quarterback the final 5-6 years of his career. In terms of statistics, winning percentage, regular season accomplishments, etc....John Elway is very average and doesn't really stand out in any facet aside from longevity and durability.

He was Eli Manning before there was Eli Manning.

Well Eli owns Brady's soul, which soul did Elway own? I'll take John "2 rings" Elway over Dan "No Rings" Marino.


Trent Dilfer > Dan Marino
Brad Johnson > Dan Marino

Logic FTW Win
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MaddHatter wrote:
ThePrimeTime12 wrote:
FirstDownFaulk wrote:
ThePrimeTime12 wrote:
Who has more rings? Feels good to finally be able to argue on this side. Cool

The "ring" argument only holds weight when all other arguments are comparable (statistics, wins, etc.). It's essentially a "tie-breaker". John Elway, was never a good passer, but he was a good quarterback the final 5-6 years of his career. In terms of statistics, winning percentage, regular season accomplishments, etc....John Elway is very average and doesn't really stand out in any facet aside from longevity and durability.

He was Eli Manning before there was Eli Manning.

Well Eli owns Brady's soul, which soul did Elway own? I'll take John "2 rings" Elway over Dan "No Rings" Marino.


Trent Dilfer > Dan Marino
Brad Johnson > Dan Marino

Logic FTW Win

Sounds right to me. BTW, I don't think you know what FTW stands for.
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ThePrimeTime12 wrote:
MaddHatter wrote:
ThePrimeTime12 wrote:
FirstDownFaulk wrote:
ThePrimeTime12 wrote:
Who has more rings? Feels good to finally be able to argue on this side. Cool

The "ring" argument only holds weight when all other arguments are comparable (statistics, wins, etc.). It's essentially a "tie-breaker". John Elway, was never a good passer, but he was a good quarterback the final 5-6 years of his career. In terms of statistics, winning percentage, regular season accomplishments, etc....John Elway is very average and doesn't really stand out in any facet aside from longevity and durability.

He was Eli Manning before there was Eli Manning.

Well Eli owns Brady's soul, which soul did Elway own? I'll take John "2 rings" Elway over Dan "No Rings" Marino.


Trent Dilfer > Dan Marino
Brad Johnson > Dan Marino

Logic FTW Win

Sounds right to me. BTW, I don't think you know what FTW stands for.


I do - sadly... not sure WTF "win" is doing in my response above... guess that's what happens when you're multitasking and your brain is doing something different than your fingers... haha
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Breesus mode wrote:
Bobikus wrote:
There are 5 QBs in the NFL TODAY that I would have a hard time choosing Elway over.

Brees
Peyton
Brady
Rodgers
??????


Roethlisberger is pretty much a modern Elway who's managed to be more efficient relative to the league. And although he's lacking the postseason hardware, Rivers' 08-10 stretch was probably more impressive than any Elway stretch too.
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Bobikus wrote:
Breesus mode wrote:
Bobikus wrote:
There are 5 QBs in the NFL TODAY that I would have a hard time choosing Elway over.

Brees
Peyton
Brady
Rodgers
??????


Roethlisberger is pretty much a modern Elway who's managed to be more efficient relative to the league. And although he's lacking the postseason hardware, Rivers' 08-10 stretch was probably more impressive than any Elway stretch too.

Gotcha, agree with you.
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