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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking back at all Bridgewater's old games, it is absolutely ridiculous to think he might be available at 13. Its crazy how short sided some of these analyst are. If i wasn't so sold on Bradford i would be all for grabbing Bridgewater. He is overwhelmingly the best QB in his draft.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tim199009 wrote:
Looking back at all Bridgewater's old games, it is absolutely ridiculous to think he might be available at 13. Its crazy how short sided some of these analyst are. If i wasn't so sold on Bradford i would be all for grabbing Bridgewater. He is overwhelmingly the best QB in his draft.


I'd love to have Teddy Bridgewater, and with today's rookie wage scale, it is a possible decision.

I'm not sure I can agree that he is the best QB in this draft though, because if Manziel was taller, he'd be the clear #1 with no question whatsoever. Gruden sounded convinced when he said that he did not believe his size would hamper him.

If you're big enough to play at a high level in the SEC, then.....
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tim199009 wrote:
Looking back at all Bridgewater's old games, it is absolutely ridiculous to think he might be available at 13. Its crazy how short sided some of these analyst are. If i wasn't so sold on Bradford i would be all for grabbing Bridgewater. He is overwhelmingly the best QB in his draft.


I'd love to have Teddy Bridgewater, and with today's rookie wage scale, it is a possible decision.

I'm not sure I can agree that he is the best QB in this draft though, because if Manziel was taller, he'd be the clear #1 with no question whatsoever. Gruden sounded convinced when he said that he did not believe his size would hamper him.

If you're big enough to play at a high level in the SEC, then.....


Bridgewater is superior to Manziel in every attribute important to the QB position except scrambling and deep ball accuracy.
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tim199009 wrote:
Looking back at all Bridgewater's old games, it is absolutely ridiculous to think he might be available at 13. Its crazy how short sided some of these analyst are. If i wasn't so sold on Bradford i would be all for grabbing Bridgewater. He is overwhelmingly the best QB in his draft.


I'd love to have Teddy Bridgewater, and with today's rookie wage scale, it is a possible decision.

I'm not sure I can agree that he is the best QB in this draft though, because if Manziel was taller, he'd be the clear #1 with no question whatsoever. Gruden sounded convinced when he said that he did not believe his size would hamper him.

If you're big enough to play at a high level in the SEC, then.....


Bridgewater is superior to Manziel in every attribute important to the QB position except scrambling and deep ball accuracy.


Thats debatable tho. Bridgewater has better pocket presence and although manziel ran a faster 40 time, bridgewater seems faster on tape. Bridgewater also doesn't bail as often so its hard to tell.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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tim199009 wrote:
Looking back at all Bridgewater's old games, it is absolutely ridiculous to think he might be available at 13. Its crazy how short sided some of these analyst are. If i wasn't so sold on Bradford i would be all for grabbing Bridgewater. He is overwhelmingly the best QB in his draft.


I'd love to have Teddy Bridgewater, and with today's rookie wage scale, it is a possible decision.

I'm not sure I can agree that he is the best QB in this draft though, because if Manziel was taller, he'd be the clear #1 with no question whatsoever. Gruden sounded convinced when he said that he did not believe his size would hamper him.

If you're big enough to play at a high level in the SEC, then.....


Bridgewater is superior to Manziel in every attribute important to the QB position except scrambling and deep ball accuracy.


Well, those are some pretty important attributes at the end of day.
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The J.R.S. wrote:
tim199009 wrote:
Looking back at all Bridgewater's old games, it is absolutely ridiculous to think he might be available at 13. Its crazy how short sided some of these analyst are. If i wasn't so sold on Bradford i would be all for grabbing Bridgewater. He is overwhelmingly the best QB in his draft.


I'd love to have Teddy Bridgewater, and with today's rookie wage scale, it is a possible decision.

I'm not sure I can agree that he is the best QB in this draft though, because if Manziel was taller, he'd be the clear #1 with no question whatsoever. Gruden sounded convinced when he said that he did not believe his size would hamper him.

If you're big enough to play at a high level in the SEC, then.....


Bridgewater is superior to Manziel in every attribute important to the QB position except scrambling and deep ball accuracy.


Well, those are some pretty important attributes at the end of day.


And yet they aren't nearly the most important attributes for the position.
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tim199009 wrote:
jrry32 wrote:
The J.R.S. wrote:
tim199009 wrote:
Looking back at all Bridgewater's old games, it is absolutely ridiculous to think he might be available at 13. Its crazy how short sided some of these analyst are. If i wasn't so sold on Bradford i would be all for grabbing Bridgewater. He is overwhelmingly the best QB in his draft.


I'd love to have Teddy Bridgewater, and with today's rookie wage scale, it is a possible decision.

I'm not sure I can agree that he is the best QB in this draft though, because if Manziel was taller, he'd be the clear #1 with no question whatsoever. Gruden sounded convinced when he said that he did not believe his size would hamper him.

If you're big enough to play at a high level in the SEC, then.....


Bridgewater is superior to Manziel in every attribute important to the QB position except scrambling and deep ball accuracy.


Thats debatable tho. Bridgewater has better pocket presence and although manziel ran a faster 40 time, bridgewater seems faster on tape. Bridgewater also doesn't bail as often so its hard to tell.


Nah. Bridgewater is far better in terms of pocket presence and movement. But Manziel definitely has scrambling.

Then again, Bridgewater scrambles well and throws incredibly effectively on the run. So it's not a negative for him.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Jrry32 Crazy Scenario Mock Draft - Stuck at #2 Reply with quote

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This will be my second to last mock. My final mock I'll take a bit more seriously and go a bit more in depth on the players. I'm mocking a scenario here if some of the media rumors come true and we're stuck at #2. Clowney goes #1. Also keep in mind that in this mock, Donald and Evans are drafted before Pick #13. There are no good trade down offers. Here is what I'd do in that situation.

NFL Draft
Round 1 Pick #2 - Jake Matthews OT Texas A&M
Analysis: I'm sticking to my board here. Matthews is the top player on my board after Clowney. He has no glaring flaws in his game and is a very polished player technically. There are some minor things that can be improved and I'm sure Boudreau will do it. Matthews is a highly intelligent and versatile player that can play every position on the OL for us. That will come in quite handy. He also is a outstanding athlete with quick feet, graceful movement skills, natural bend, excellent balance, and a wide base. At 6'6" 307, he has NFL LT size with the frame to add another 10 or so pounds (he looks like a TE...that's how impressive his build is). The worst things you can say about Matthews are that he has average arm length (33.4 inches) and he only has good power. Plug and play future Pro Bowler.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuhZN7GfrLU

Round 1 Pick #13 - Teddy Bridgewater QB Louisville
Analysis: This is why it's a "crazy" scenario. This won't please a few folks but I'm sticking to my board. With the media rumoring Bridgewater will drop, we scoop him up here. I would have taken him at #2 had we needed a starting QB. If Sam gets hurt or things don't workout, Bridgewater is the heir apparent. If they do, we trade him. Why Bridgewater? He commanded a West Coast Offense in college from the LOS. He called protections, audibles, hot routes, sight adjustments, dummy calls, etc. The kid wins with his mind. He wins by reading the defense pre/post-snap, throwing with anticipation and timing, and putting the ball where it needs to be. He wins with his elite pocket presence and movement. People that don't see it with Bridgewater will when he gets a chance in the NFL. Too much is made of what he doesn't have. Not enough is made of what he does have. What separates the JAGs and the HOFers is what is in between the ears. Teddy Bridgewater has it in between the ears.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwXqubJpNlg

Round 2 Pick #12 - LaMarcus Joyner FS/CB Florida State
Analysis: Yes, Joyner is undersized but size shouldn't define the kid. He has heart, he plays aggressive, and he's amazingly strong for his size. Joyner is a chess piece on defense, you can move him around and use him however you please. You can play him back deep at FS and have him light guys up or make plays on the deep ball. You can bring him into the box and allow him to take on runners in the hole or blitz off the edge. You can move him into the slot and play him at CB. He's a gamer. He plays fast because of his explosive burst, he changes directions with ease, he has top notch instincts, and he's fearless. The kid plays football like his hair is on fire and I love it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qu77jfo5_eE

Round 3 Pick #11 - Jaylen Watkins CB/FS Florida
Analysis: Another versatile player and we grab Watkins...just the other Watkins. Jaylen Watkins played FS, LCB, RCB, and SLCB for the Gators during his time there. He adds both safety and CB depth to the Rams secondary. He's a solid all around football player with NFL size and speed at 6'0" 195 with a faster electronic 40 time at the combine than his brother, Sammy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXKtwSkiqck

Round 4 Pick #10 - Charles Sims HB West Virginia
Analysis: I love what Stacy did in 2013 but he had issues with getting nicked up and I'm worried about his ability to stay healthy. Bennie looked solid but we really need a threat out of the back-field in the passing game. Sims is one of the best receivers out of the back-field in recent memory. He caught 203 passes in his college career including 70 receptions as a freshman. Sims has a soft pair of hands, great understanding of how to find a hole in the zone, runs good routes for a HB, and is even a good pass protector. He's an ideal 3rd down HB for us. But wait...there's more(had to do it)...Sims is a 6'0" 215 pound HB that ran a 4.4 40 at the combine. He is a slashing runner with some shake and bake. He's a natural change of pace from Stacy's bowling ball style of running. And if Stacy does get hurt, Sims has the size and ability to be a starting HB in his absence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_ZLITZeRZ4

Round 5 Pick #13 - Brandon Thomas OG/OT Clemson
Analysis: I would have taken Thomas in the second round before his injury. I'm willing to wait it out and put him on the PUP as a rookie. Thomas has excellent arm length along with the feet to play OT in the NFL. Ultimately, though, I think his best position is at OG. Thomas is a powerful guy with good athleticism. He uses his hands well and bends naturally. He'd be given time to develop under Boudreau as depth at OT and OG. And ultimately, he'd be our LG of the future.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvq7NiZc9qs

Round 6 Pick #12 - Yawin Smallwood OLB Connecticut
Analysis: I have a hard time believing that Smallwood is available here but NFL Draft Scout is rating him as a 5th to 6th round pick. If he is available, I run the card to the podium. While Smallwood has had a poor post-season in terms of measurables, his film is impressive. He fights off blockers using his length and is the best 4-3 OLB/3-4 ILB in this draft at stacking and shedding blockers. He also shows much better speed on film than the 5.0 40 he turned in at the combine and has the instincts and recognition to handle zone coverage in the NFL. However, he's a bit stiff and not overly sudden which can leave him exposed in space and man to man coverage. Still, he has a lot of potential as a 4-3 SLB than can stop the run.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SMA_da3PbI

Round 6 Pick Comp - Terrance Mitchell CB Oregon
Analysis: Mitchell is a talented cover CB that falls this far because of his poor timed speed (4.63 electronic 40 at the combine). However, Mitchell is a natural cover CB that has quick feet, loose hips, and is sudden in short areas. I think he has a lot of potential to contribute to the team as a slot CB and could possibly even play FS if needed. He'd add depth to our secondary which sorely needs it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_taXTacVLMA

Round 7 Pick #11 - Eric Thomas WR Troy
Analysis: Personally, I think Thomas is extremely underrated. Thomas possesses NFL size at 6'1" 216 with a very thick lower body. His upper body still needs some development and he could easily play in the 220-225 range in the NFL. Thomas also possesses nearly 11 inch hands and uses them well to attack the ball away from his frame and at the highest point. While he lacks breakaway long speed, he has enough suddenness and burst to separate. His route running needs development but he's a big YAC threat due to his size, strength, and wiggle. At his Pro Day, he turned in a respectable 4.53 40.
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:9984975
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:9813536

Round 7 Pick #26 - Ryan Carrethers NT Arkansas State
Analysis: Carrethers is a big, run stuffing DT to rotate behind Brockers and Langford. At 6'1" 340, Carrethers still managed to record 93 tackles his final year in college which was good for second on his team. He's active player that hustles which is rare for a big man. Carrethers even played a little bit of offense.
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:10058427

Round 7 Pick Comp - Matt Hall OT Belhaven
Analysis: Being from Belhaven, I haven't seen Hall play but he's a 6'9" 325 pound OT with good arm length and solid workout numbers. Maybe worth a flier here?

Round 7 Pick Comp - Jeremy Gallon WR Michigan
Analysis: I've had Gallon in a few other mocks of mine. He's one of my favorite late round players in this draft. He's a lot like the WR version of LaMarcus Joyner. He's very undersized but he plays the game with such passion, heart, and fearlessness. Gallon shows off soft, reliable hands and just seems to understand how to get open. He timed in the 4.4s in the 40 at the combine and was very productive at Michigan. Gallon reminds me a lot of Deion Branch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BL5yu-MkoUw

Projected Starters
QB: Sam Bradford
HB: Zac Stacy
FB: Cory Harkey
XWR: Stedman Bailey
ZWR: Tavon Austin
SLWR: Austin Pettis
TE: Jared Cook
LT: Jake Long
LG: Jake Matthews
C: Scott Wells
RG: Rodger Saffold
RT: Joe Barksdale

LDE: Chris Long
LDT: Kendall Langford
RDT: Michael Brockers
RDE: Robert Quinn
WLB: Alec Ogletree
MLB: James Laurinaitis
SLB: Jo-Lonn Dunbar
RCB: Janoris Jenkins
LCB: Trumaine Johnson
SLCB: Jaylen Watkins
FS: LaMarcus Joyner
SS: T.J. McDonald

K: Greg Zuerlein
P: Johnny Hekker

Thoughts? Please, do me one favor and don't respond with "The Rams won't do that" or something of that variant. I'm more interested in hearing your guys opinions on the players and how I addressed our team's needs than what we think the Rams will do. Wink



well, if we are picking an OT and QB in the 1st...a much better scenario would be Manziel at 2 and Lewan at 13 ...just sayin
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Jrry32 Crazy Scenario Mock Draft - Stuck at #2 Reply with quote

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well, if we are picking an OT and QB in the 1st...a much better scenario would be Manziel at 2 and Lewan at 13 ...just sayin


Completely disagree. Matthews > Lewan. Bridgewater > Manziel.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Jrry32 Crazy Scenario Mock Draft - Stuck at #2 Reply with quote

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well, if we are picking an OT and QB in the 1st...a much better scenario would be Manziel at 2 and Lewan at 13 ...just sayin


Completely disagree. Matthews > Lewan. Bridgewater > Manziel.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Jrry32 Crazy Scenario Mock Draft - Stuck at #2 Reply with quote

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well, if we are picking an OT and QB in the 1st...a much better scenario would be Manziel at 2 and Lewan at 13 ...just sayin


If you want to cause mass vomiting among Rams fans.
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well, if we are picking an OT and QB in the 1st...a much better scenario would be Manziel at 2 and Lewan at 13 ...just sayin


If you want to cause mass vomiting among Rams fans.


I had a productive burp just from reading it.
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well, if we are picking an OT and QB in the 1st...a much better scenario would be Manziel at 2 and Lewan at 13 ...just sayin


If you want to cause mass vomiting among Rams fans.
If that happens, I hope I don't puke. I want to keep the lethal dose of pills down.
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