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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:31 am    Post subject: Mock Offseason April 2nd Reply with quote

*Trade* The Chicago Bears trade 1[14] to the Arizona Cardinals for 1[20] and 3[84]

Round 1

1[1] Houston Texans: QB Blake Bortles [UCF]
1[2] St. Louis Rams [Was]: WR Sammy Watkins [Clemson]
1[3] Jacksonville Jaguars: DE Jadeveon Clowney [South Carolina]
1[4] Cleveland Browns: QB Johnny Manziel [Texas A&M]
1[5] Oakland Raiders: OT Greg Robinson [Auburn]
1[6] Atlanta Falcons: OLB Khalil Mack [Buffalo]
1[7] Tampa Bay Buccaneers: TE Eric Ebron [UNC]
1[8] Minnesota Vikings: QB Teddy Bridgewater [Louisville]
1[9] Buffalo Bills: OT Jake Matthews [Texas A&M]
1[10] Detroit Lions: CB Justin Gilbert [Oklahoma St]
1[11] Tennessee Titans: OT Taylor Lewan [Michigan]
1[12] New York Giants: DT Aaron Donald [Pitt]
1[13] St. Louis Rams: S Ha Ha Clinton-Dix [Alabama]
1[14] Arizona Cardinals [Chi]: OLB Anthony Barr [UCLA]

1[20] NT Louis Nix III [Notre Dame] 6'2" 335lbs.

The Bears have gotten significantly better on the DL and specifically have improved at DE and the pass rush. But on the interior they still lack size, run stuffing, and depth. Louis Nix can come in and immediately start at NT and provide a dominant run stuffing DT that can protect the LBs and allow the DEs to focus more on rushing the passer. In addition to becoming the center piece to the run defense, an area of the defense that crippled the Bears last season, he is not simply a 1-2 down run stuffer. Nix has good hand use and can be a power rusher from the inside that collapses the pocket. Nix may not look like the perfect match for the system, but his presence can improve the defense in many areas. He also provides the versatility that Phil Emery has been talking about all offseason.



2[51] S Deonne Bucannon [Washington St] 6'1" 217lbs.

The Bears were simply not physical enough at the safety position last season. Teams would run at the Bears safeties with no fear, often carrying Wright and Conte down field for significant yardage. In the passing game teams attacked the middle of the field with impunity. Bucannon can step into the SS position an instantly add more size, physicality, and play making ability. Bucannon has his limitations in man coverage, but he is a hard hitter, a secure tackler and he generate turnovers. If asked to be aggressive and play in a zone he could be an exceptional addition at SS. Bucannon was one of the more feared hitters in NCAA football last season and that type of attitude and presence would be a welcome addition to the Bears defense.



3[82] CB Phillip Gaines [Rice] 6'1" 190lbs.

Rumors have connected the Bears to the CB position and it makes a ton of sense considering that the Bears top 3 CBs are all over 30, 2 are on 1 year contracts, and 2 of them are coming off seasons on IR. There were also rumors last season that the Bears were looking to take Desmond Trufant at 20 is Long had not fallen to them. Gaines is a solid athlete, he is incredibly physical, and he has #1 CB type potential with his ability to disrupt WRs. Gaines can provide incredible depth, possibly start at nickle back and can replace Charles Tillman in 2015. Pass rushers and CBs are the position on defense where you cannot have enough depth.



3[84] C Travis Swanson [Arkansas] 6'5" 312lbs.

The Bears need a center of the future and they need increased depth on the interior OL. Swanson can come in and learn behind Garza for a season, while providing depth at OG and C. Swanson has the size to fit in with the Bears OL and he has been battle tested against the elite DL talent of the SEC. The final piece to the offense is the C position and the Bears will not have free agent money to spend on the offense with Cutler's deal, and when they re-sign Jeffery and Marshall.



4[117] Yawin Smallwood [UConn] 6'3" 246lbs.

Outside of a terrible 40 time, Smallwood is the type of LB the Bears need. He is tough, physical, has good size, and is an adept blitzer. He can come in and work behind D.J Williams at MLB and provide physicality on running downs. Smallwood as a 4th round pick can also come off the field on 3rd downs and obvious passing downs without it making him a poor value pick.



5[156] QB Aaron Murray [Georgia] 6'1" 215lbs.

The Bears should take a developmental QB and allow the QB whisperer to work with him for a couple of years. Aaron Murray might not have ideal height, but he has a good arm, a ton of top level experience, and he makes quick decisions with the ball. Give Trestman a couple of seasons with Murray and perhaps he will be the long term replacement for Cutler, a great back up, or even a valuable trade chip.



6[183] TE A.C Leonard [Tennessee State] 6'3" 245lbs.

A top recruit at Florida, but off field issues led him to Tennessee St. A high level athlete that has rough edges as a route runner and will need work and off field support. Leonard can come in and be developed as the flex TE that the Bears need. The Bears took a similar player in Marquess Wilson last season and it looks like it will pay dividends.



6[191] RB James White [Wisconsin] 5'9" 205lbs.

If the Bears are going to go with a cheap and unproven back up RB than they need more depth. White is a powerful runner despite his lack of size and he is a competent receiver. White can come in and contribute on special teams while providing depth and a potential 3rd down presence.



QB: Cutler, Murray, Palmer
RB: Forte, Ford, White
FB: Fiammetta
WR: Marshall, Jeffery, Wilson, Hixon, Tolliver
TE: Bennett, Rosario, Leonard
LT: Bushrod
LG: Slauson, Brown
C: Garza, Swanson
RG: Long, Boggs
RT: Mills, Britton

RE: Allen, Young, Bass
DT: Ratliff, Idonije Collins
NT: Nix, Paea
LE: Houston, Washington
SLB: Bostic, McClellin, Franklin
MLB: Williams, Smallwood
WLB: Briggs, Greene
CB: Tillman, Jennings, Gaines, Frey, McManis, Hayden
FS: Conte/Mundy, Jennings
SS: Bucannon, Steltz
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The trade down is fairly optimistic. The Bears would probably get a 4th from Arizona for only moving up six picks.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not a huge fan of Nix as a fit for this Bears defense. He's better suited as a 3-4 NT and there are no indications that the Bears plan to full out employ that next season.

If we're talking versatility/upside on the d-line give me Hageman over Nix. The rest of the draft looks pretty good though.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drafting Bucannon and Smallwood that high would be really bad ideas. 2 rounds later for each.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaMike wrote:
Drafting Bucannon and Smallwood that high would be really bad ideas. 2 rounds later for each.



I'll eat my hat and post the video if Bucannon is available in the 4th round.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mudderfudder77 wrote:
DaMike wrote:
Drafting Bucannon and Smallwood that high would be really bad ideas. 2 rounds later for each.



I'll eat my hat and post the video if Bucannon is available in the 4th round.

Laughing

...and agreed.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 3:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Mock Offseason April 2nd Reply with quote

WindyCity wrote:
*Trade* The Chicago Bears trade 1[14] to the Arizona Cardinals for 1[20] and 3[84]

Round 1

1[1] Houston Texans: QB Blake Bortles [UCF]
1[2] St. Louis Rams [Was]: WR Sammy Watkins [Clemson]
1[3] Jacksonville Jaguars: DE Jadeveon Clowney [South Carolina]
1[4] Cleveland Browns: QB Johnny Manziel [Texas A&M]
1[5] Oakland Raiders: OT Greg Robinson [Auburn]
1[6] Atlanta Falcons: OLB Khalil Mack [Buffalo]
1[7] Tampa Bay Buccaneers: TE Eric Ebron [UNC]
1[8] Minnesota Vikings: QB Teddy Bridgewater [Louisville]
1[9] Buffalo Bills: OT Jake Matthews [Texas A&M]
1[10] Detroit Lions: CB Justin Gilbert [Oklahoma St]
1[11] Tennessee Titans: OT Taylor Lewan [Michigan]
1[12] New York Giants: DT Aaron Donald [Pitt]
1[13] St. Louis Rams: S Ha Ha Clinton-Dix [Alabama]

1[14] Arizona Cardinals [Chi]: OLB Anthony Barr [UCLA]


I actually dreamt this exact thing happened last night, Donald going to the Giants and HCD going the pick before us.
Except in my dream we kept the 14th pick and took Pryor, and folks on here were livid!

Needless to say, I am anxiously awaiting the draft...
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mudderfudder77 wrote:
DaMike wrote:
Drafting Bucannon and Smallwood that high would be really bad ideas. 2 rounds later for each.



I'll eat my hat and post the video if Bucannon is available in the 4th round.
I'll send you some new era approved sweet baby rays to make it easier.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been a fan of Nix for a long time. I think he would be great at NT for us. He can fit as a 3-4 DL or as a 4-3 NT IMO. He us more mobile than about any of the big uglies his size, and Ratliff can easily slide of the the 3T. On 3rd, kick out Nix, slide Houston inside and bring in Young.

I'd be pretty happy with this draft, , my biggest concern is Smallwood. He bites on play action and can over-pursue too much at times. we had that enough last year, but if he can be more disciplined I think he can be a solid starter in a few years.
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Sugashane wrote:
I have been a fan of Nix for a long time. I think he would be great at NT for us. He can fit as a 3-4 DL or as a 4-3 NT IMO. He us more mobile than about any of the big uglies his size, and Ratliff can easily slide of the the 3T. On 3rd, kick out Nix, slide Houston inside and bring in Young.


Yup. I like Nix's mobility for a man of his size.
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How have Nix's knees checked out? With Collins, Ratliff and Paea all having injury issues, Nix's knees could be a deal breaker. Besides his knees Nix would be a great addition.
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KG1187 wrote:
How have Nix's knees checked out? With Collins, Ratliff and Paea all having injury issues, Nix's knees could be a deal breaker. Besides his knees Nix would be a great addition.


No combine call back.

Nix allows everyone else on the defense to penetrate and rush the passer.
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KG1187 wrote:
How have Nix's knees checked out? With Collins, Ratliff and Paea all having injury issues, Nix's knees could be a deal breaker. Besides his knees Nix would be a great addition.


He has Dr. James Andrews heading his surgery and rehab if I recall correctly, and the fact he decided to get it taken care of early rather than let it become degenerative both seem to be positive points IMO. Andrews has a great track record, so I lean more towards guessing he will be fine. And if someone like Emery picks him in the first, then it would obviously be medically cleared.

Of course, that is just my 2 cents.
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Out of curiosity, what makes Nix a top 20 pick and Justin Ellis a 3rd rounder?

I would probably go Dennard/Bucannon/Ellis with my top 3. Same positions drafted, just a different order.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Mock Offseason April 2nd Reply with quote

WindyCity wrote:
*Trade* The Chicago Bears trade 1[14] to the Arizona Cardinals for 1[20] and 3[84]

1[20] NT Louis Nix III [Notre Dame] 6'2" 335lbs.

The Bears have gotten significantly better on the DL and specifically have improved at DE and the pass rush. But on the interior they still lack size, run stuffing, and depth. Louis Nix can come in and immediately start at NT and provide a dominant run stuffing DT that can protect the LBs and allow the DEs to focus more on rushing the passer. In addition to becoming the center piece to the run defense, an area of the defense that crippled the Bears last season he is not simply a 1-2 down run stuffer. Nix has good hand use and can be a power rusher from the inside that collapses the pocket. Nix may not look like the perfect match for the system, but his presence can improve the defense in many areas. He also provides the versatility that Phil Emery has been talking about all offseason.





YES SIR!


Best case scenario <<besides getting Gilbert at 14 and then trading up for a sliding Louis Nix III>

To get Nix at 20 while picking up an extra 3/4 round pick would be absolutely heroic!



With the extra pick, we could then afford to take a weapon like C.J. Fiedorowicz, Iowa early:
A traditional tight end with strong hands; Fiedorowicz is a legitimate threat in the passing game, but is also a powerful blocker on the perimeter.


or

Troy Niklas, Notre Dame who has extraordinary size (6-foot-7, 270 pounds) and sneaky athleticism.

or

even a second DT, Kelcy Quarles




<We need starters at S and CB but starters (after the first round/early to middle second) are so much more difficult to decipher>> Role players and depth are much easier to score with! <<<and we need plenty of both!!

*Nonetheless, if one of Gilbert, Fuller, Dennard, Clinton-Dix, or Pryor slide to the end of the first; we have to then use the acquired pick to move up and snag one!
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