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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 1:51 pm    Post subject: GERM-X: 2nd 2014 Bronco Mock Draft Reply with quote

Alright, here goes my 2nd attempt at a Denver Bronco mock draft. This isn't what i hope happens, instead i'm trying to guess what Denver may do. Finally, i typically stay away from trades because they are so hard to guess, but i included one in this mock.

TRADE:
Broncos trade their 2014 1st Round pick #31 to the Minnesota Vikings for their 2014 2nd Round pick #40 and 2014 3rd Round pick (f/SEA) #96.- The Vikings aren't afraid to move around in the draft and have an extra 3rd to give them ammo to get back into the 1st round. If they don't get their QB at #8 they could be moving up for a guy like Jimmy Garoppolo. Or if they do get their QB they may be looking to move up for a CB or potentially a guy like Kony Ealy, who looks like a great fit in Zimmer's defensive scheme with his length. As i said i don't typically include trades, but i have a feeling Denver will want to collect some more picks in this draft. They get another 3rd to help fill depth and add younger talent behind veteran players whose contracts will be expiring soon.

Broncos 2014 Draft Picks:
2nd Round: #40(f/MIN)
2nd Round: #63
3rd Round: #95
3rd Round: #96(f/MIN)
4th Round: #131
5th Round: #171
6th Round: #207
7th Round: #246

2014 Draft:

2nd Round: #40(f/MIN)

Chris Borland, MLB, Wisconsin- Looking back at past drafts I've noticed a few trends. 1. Denver has played it pretty safe early in the draft. They've always selected productive college players. 2. Denver doesn't appear to be driven by pre-draft measurables. This has led me to Borland. He's undersized, and didn't test all that well, but he makes a ton of tackles and his instincts and quickness to the football are 2nd to none in this draft. He's a fierce competitor that can be the leader of the defense for years to come. He's a safe pick that will step in from day one and start at MLB in Denver.

2nd Round: #63

Pierre Desir, CB, Lindenwood- This is a bit contradictory as i just mentioned that Denver has played it safe early, but i think the Broncos are really going to like Desir. He's a 6'1" 200 pound CB with long arms. He isn't afraid to step up vs the run, and he's more fluid than both Keith McGill and Stanley Jean-Baptiste. Most important of all, at the DII level he has shown very good ball skills. With Talib being the only CB on the roster over 5'10" I believe that adding another bigger CB will be a priority and Desir would be a great fit.

3rd Round: #95

Chris Watt, OG/OC, Notre Dame- Watt is a good sized interior OL prospect at 6'3" 310 pounds. He's a productive and tough lineman that excelled at Notre Dame. I think Denver brings him in and immediately begins working with him at Center as well as his college position, which was Guard. Denver I believe wants to add depth along the interior and Watt could provide that at multiple positions and could potentially develop into a good starter at Guard or Center.

3rd Round: #96(f/MIN)

Deandre Coleman, DT, California- With Terrance Knighton and Kevin Vickerson both set to hit FA adding a talented player inside would be appealing. Coleman is a 6'5" 315 pound prospect that has a lot of upside as a run stuffing tackle. With Denver's hybrid looks, he's also a good fit on the edge as a 2 gap player. He fits the mold of what the FO seems to look for at DT with his size and ability to clog running lanes+eat up blockers. This selection gives Denver depth now and security in the future.

4th Round: #131

Kevin Norwood, WR, Alabama- Norwood is a player that I could see being high on Denver's radar. IMO, he is the best WR no one talks about, but falls because he lacks the explosiveness and run after the catch ability of many of the WR's that will go ahead of him. Norwood, however, is a very polished WR with experience outside and in the slot. He understands route running and is a smooth mover. At 6'2" 200 pounds he has decent size and gives Denver pro ready depth at WR. His upside is that of a #2 or #3 possession wideout.

5th Round: #171

Khairi Fortt, LB, California*- Fortt probably should have returned for his Senior year, but he has an exciting blend of size (6'2" 245), length (33" arms), and speed (4.7 40). He has major upside as a special teams player and coverage LB. Both of these attributes are something Denver could use, he also gives Denver depth at WLB behind Danny Trevathan.

6th Round: #207

Morgan Breslin, DE/OLB, USC- Breslin was a productive player, but a Combine snub. Oddly enough, i think this would be Denver's first draft pick under Elway that wasn't invited to the Combine. Breslin's physical talent is his biggest question, but his production (17.5 sacks over the last 2 years) shows he can find a way to get to the QB. Denver's rolled the dice on a similar type of player in Jeremy Beal a few years back. Breslin is probably destined for the practice squad early in his career.

7th Round: #246

Bryn Renner, QB, North Carolina- Renner has a good build at 6'3" 230 pounds, is a solid athlete, with a solid arm. I think it is a long shot he makes a mark in the NFL, but Denver brings him in to push Dysert and Osweiler in camp. He's not as talented as Dysert, but it could be possible if he shows well he could replace him on the roster. Like Breslin, he's probably a practice squad candidate.

2014 Depth Chart:

Offense

QB: Manning, Osweiler, Dysert
RB: Ball, Hillman, Anderson
WR: Thomas, Caldwell
WR: Sanders, Norwood
WR: Welker

TE: Thomas, Tamme, Green, Dreessen
LT: Clady, Justice
LG: Franklin, Garland
OC: Ramirez, Watt
RG: Vasquez, Garland
RT: Clark, Painter

Defense

LE: Wolfe/Jackson
DT: Knighton, Vickerson
DT: Williams, Coleman, Unrein
RE: Ware, Smith

WLB: Trevathan, Fortt
MLB: Borland, Johnson
SLB: Miller, Irving, Breslin

CB: Talib, Desir
FS: Moore, Bolden
SS: Ward, Ihenacho, Bruton
CB: Harris, Webster, Carter

Special Teams

K: Prater
P: Colquitt
LS: Brewer

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Borland is a bit of a reach here, I do think he's a John Elway type of prospect though.


If you gave us Borland at the end of the second and whatever CB out of Fuller/Verrett/Roby/Roberson slides with the Vikings pick, then this would be a very good mock imo
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love the trade down, but am not a fan of the players drafted.

I really dislike Chris Borland at #40. He is a smart player, but he has severe athletic limitations. For the life of me, I cant figure out why Borland is being projected as a top 65 player while similar guys in Max Bullough and Avery Williamson are being projected as fringe day 3 prospects. Borland just has no value to me this high. I absolutely think he will be eaten alive in any sort of man coverage, which will likely limit him to a 2 down player.

Pierre Desir is a nice talent but is nearly 25 years old, has only played subpar competition and is not a day 1 gamer. He is a guy that will need to be developed his 1st season IMO and that along with his age drops him IMO. Bad value in the 2nd round.

Chris Watt is a nice interior backup talent but in the 3rd round? I donít see it. This OG class is too deep for Watt (Who I consider JAG Ė Just a Guy) to be a 3rd round pick. He is more of a RG prospect IMO, although our scheme may allow him to play some OC. I would like this pick if it was 2 rounds later.

Deandre Coleman is one of my top prospects to develop into a DT, but again I think he is overdrafted in this mock. I would say the 4th round is his ceiling as he showed very little college production and is a project. This isnít a day 1 contributor IMO and he would probably be our #5 DT.

I like Kevin Norwood. Versatile (can play inside and outside) and likely a guy that can be a ST contributor. The WR depth is so elite this year that a better prospect may be available in the 4th IMO (I like Cody Latimer a lot).

Donít know much about Fortt but personally I like what I saw when Steve Johnson got on the field last season and think he is a good enough backup WLB to avoid using a draft pick on one.

Breslin is a huge steal in the 6th. He is being slept on a bit and would be a nice pass rush specialist from the get-go who can potentially be a great SLB backup for Von Miller. Probably my favorite pick in this mock.

Renner is a waste of a pick. If we want a 3rd developmental QB, we need to either roll the dice in the mid rounds on a guy that we love/has above average natural talent (Brett Smith?) or simply sign a UDFA.

Its always great to read a mock from an experienced and well versed poster but this isnít one of my favorites.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

paul-mac wrote:
I think Borland is a bit of a reach here, I do think he's a John Elway type of prospect though.


If you gave us Borland at the end of the second and whatever CB out of Fuller/Verrett/Roby/Roberson slides with the Vikings pick, then this would be a very good mock imo

You bashed me on the "pick a mock" post on here for saying that I think we are going to trade back and out of the first round, now you're saying this would be a good mock.
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BroncosFan2010 wrote:
I love the trade down, but am not a fan of the players drafted.

I really dislike Chris Borland at #40. He is a smart player, but he has severe athletic limitations. For the life of me, I cant figure out why Borland is being projected as a top 65 player while similar guys in Max Bullough and Avery Williamson are being projected as fringe day 3 prospects. Borland just has no value to me this high. I absolutely think he will be eaten alive in any sort of man coverage, which will likely limit him to a 2 down player.


The only glaring physical limitation Borland has is arm length, which could give him trouble both in taking on blocks and in coverage. His 4.8 40 I don't really see as much of a concern. There are plenty of quality NFL LB's many of which have been to Pro Bowls that have ran in the high 4.7's and higher 40's.

It all comes down to recognition and instincts and that is what separates Chris Borland from guys like Bullough and Williamson. At LB the vast majority of the time it is how quick you can get to a point and Borland is quicker than anybody in this draft (including in zone coverage). As far as coverage goes, his limitations can be masked and he can be kept away from getting into man to man coverage with a TE, which is really the biggest concern i have with him. I do think he could match up with backs and do a serviceable job.

I know the game is evolving and having LB's that can cover is a need, but it isn't like they are being asked to lock up man to man like a CB all game long. That's a small blip on a guy that otherwise does nearly everything else exceptionally well.

BroncosFan2010 wrote:
Pierre Desir is a nice talent but is nearly 25 years old, has only played subpar competition and is not a day 1 gamer. He is a guy that will need to be developed his 1st season IMO and that along with his age drops him IMO. Bad value in the 2nd round.


Age really isn't an issue since Elway has taken over. Denver drafted Sylvester Williams who turned 25 in November of his rookie year. They also drafted Philip Blake who was 25 when he was selected. Orlando Franklin was another early round selection who was 24 when he was drafted. I really don't think Denver concerns themselves a whole lot with age, whether it is early in the draft or in the mid rounds.

As for Desir, i can see the the skepticism and don't necessarily disagree with it. Hell, i have no idea how he translates in a jump to the NFL. I do know that he played well at both the east/west shrine game + the Senior Bowl and many considered him one of the big winners at both events. I also know that his physical traits should translate to the NFL. He may take some time to get up to speed, but i don't think that means he can't contribute in his rookie year. He may not start, but if he progresses he could end up coming in for the nickel and bumping a guy like Chris Harris down in the slot.

Just because he is 25 and from a small school doesn't mean he can't make an impact. Small school guys come in and contribute on NFL teams every year.

BroncosFan2010 wrote:
Chris Watt is a nice interior backup talent but in the 3rd round? I donít see it. This OG class is too deep for Watt (Who I consider JAG Ė Just a Guy) to be a 3rd round pick. He is more of a RG prospect IMO, although our scheme may allow him to play some OC. I would like this pick if it was 2 rounds later.


We'll have to just disagree here. I think Watt is one of the 8 interior OL prospects in this draft. I also think he could be capable of adding Center to his repertoire which adds to his value. I also don't mind a "Just a Guy" type player along the OL, many of those guys turn out to be darn good lineman.

BroncosFan2010 wrote:
Deandre Coleman is one of my top prospects to develop into a DT, but again I think he is overdrafted in this mock. I would say the 4th round is his ceiling as he showed very little college production and is a project. This isnít a day 1 contributor IMO and he would probably be our #5 DT.


He's not being asked to be a day 1 contributor. He's being selected to add depth and develop into possibly a future starter because he has that type of potential. Honestly, he has the potential to be a dominant defensive tackle.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldnt hate this outcome but I would be a little upset after the 2nd day picks of Desir and Watt. I think we can do much better at those picks.

Borland seems like a logical pick to many people making a mock. He's got the size, the pedigree, and the production. Love the Norwood (Turd) and Fortt picks too. Both players I think could really impact this team.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 4:50 pm    Post subject: Borland Reply with quote

What I hear about Borland is that he is more of a 3-4 ILB. Now, we may play some more 3-4, but we need a 4-3 MLB, and I hear that he isn't that appropriate for the job.

Also, I don't see them taking another QB. A RB would have been better somewhere in this draft.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

denverbroncos23 wrote:
paul-mac wrote:
I think Borland is a bit of a reach here, I do think he's a John Elway type of prospect though.


If you gave us Borland at the end of the second and whatever CB out of Fuller/Verrett/Roby/Roberson slides with the Vikings pick, then this would be a very good mock imo

You bashed me on the "pick a mock" post on here for saying that I think we are going to trade back and out of the first round, now you're saying this would be a good mock.



Yeah I don't love the idea of trading out but in the big picture this wouldn't be *too* bad
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JerseysFinest27 wrote:
I wouldnt hate this outcome but I would be a little upset after the 2nd day picks of Desir and Watt. I think we can do much better at those picks.

Borland seems like a logical pick to many people making a mock. He's got the size, the pedigree, and the production. Love the Norwood (Turd) and Fortt picks too. Both players I think could really impact this team.


I could definitely see Denver going in another direction at #63. However, if there is one position i think will be addressed with Denver's 1st 2 picks i think it is CB. I just don't see this team going into 2014 with 3 5'9 CB's and a 5'10" CB. Outside of MLB, CB is the one position that has room for a CB to come in and make an impact. I went back and forth on whether or not to have Denver take a CB at #31 and ultimately went with the trade back.

While Desir may not start day 1, i think he could work himself into contributing in a bigger role as the season progresses.

As for Watt, i think he is a legitimate late 3rd round/early 4th round prospect. Maybe there is higher upside guys available at skill positions, but Watt i think is fully capable of developing into a starter. I actually like him a lot as a Center prospect, especially at his height and size.
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We'll see. Honestly I'm not the biggest fan germ. Wouldn't be surprised if Borland was the first pick, nor would I hate it. I really like the guy. Impact player on 2 downs is fine by me. Especially like I said, you don't need a superstar 3 down ILB to succeed in the NFL.

I think, though, that if we don't take CB in Round 1, we'll take one after Round 2. Just a hunch, but I think it's either we roll the dice early, or a guy to groom later.

I think Denver takes a WR earlier than you have suggested here, for whatever that's worth. No guarantee Welker stays healthy, Sanders has had injuries, and this draft has young talent waiting to be plucked.
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Not a criticism,..because I've seen more than one 'mock' that has Denver drafting a QB...

They like Brock O and Dysart a lot from what I read.
Why waste a pick on a guy you hope doesn't make your team and cant play special teams..

we need depth at receiver (as B-67 says) and LB
I would be pleasantly surprised if Borland is available to be the pick at 31.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not a fan of this mock at all..It doesn't deliver any top tier players that we can build upon in the future and use right away. It seems like a bunch of average depth players when we need guys with more upside, even to make our roster guys will have to be pretty good and I see some of these picks as wastes.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

paul-mac wrote:
denverbroncos23 wrote:
paul-mac wrote:
I think Borland is a bit of a reach here, I do think he's a John Elway type of prospect though.


If you gave us Borland at the end of the second and whatever CB out of Fuller/Verrett/Roby/Roberson slides with the Vikings pick, then this would be a very good mock imo

You bashed me on the "pick a mock" post on here for saying that I think we are going to trade back and out of the first round, now you're saying this would be a good mock.



Yeah I don't love the idea of trading out but in the big picture this wouldn't be *too* bad

Gotcha, it really feels to me that this is what Elway will do. He knows this is a pretty deep draft and if he thinks there's a better chance at hitting on 2 2nd rounders rather than a first that could be a 2nd and a 2nd I think he takes his chances on hitting on 2 2nd rounders. If we do draft in the first round I really hope we pick either a CB or G in that order.
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Because I think CJ Mosely will be gone at that point and while MLB is a need I don't see a first round MLB after CJ so either a CB or G in the first then whatever we didn't pick or a MLB in the second depending on who is available.
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I've become a fan of Borland. Only seen a small bit of film but he never seems to take a wrong step, critical for a MLB who basically plays a 5-10 yard game.

I really could care less about a slow 40 speed at that position or shuttle for that matter. What difference does "recovery speed" make when a wrong step, mis-diagnosis, poor play recognition, etc will cost you several 1/10's and probably any chance at making a play. This kid can play!

We could maybe trade further down and still get him but IMO he'll play at a high level in the NFL for a long time and would be a great selection at #40.. Very very safe pick and the kind of defensive stalwart every team can use, not flashy but extremely productive.
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