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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:49 pm    Post subject: Antonio Cromartie signed on a one year deal Reply with quote

Adam Schefter Reporting:

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Former Jets CB Antonio Cromartie reached agreement on a one-year deal with the Arizona Cardinals, per ESPN source.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What an offseason so far. Can't wait to see what we do in the draft.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

love the move, 2 interesting things come from this.

first is what do we do with powers? Cut him save 2.75 mil? I still think if Fuller is there at 20 we should draft him

Second, I wan't to see the numbers and how much of a cap hit he is. But in doing so, I suspect we have little to no room to roll over to next year for Larry which pretty muchs means pay cut or bye bye.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plucky wrote:
love the move, 2 interesting things come from this.

first is what do we do with powers? Cut him save 2.75 mil? I still think if Fuller is there at 20 we should draft him

Second, I wan't to see the numbers and how much of a cap hit he is. But in doing so, I suspect we have little to no room to roll over to next year for Larry which pretty muchs means pay cut or bye bye.


I think cutting Powers and drafting a CB is an excellent strategy. Even if it's a mid round guy it gives him an opportunity to play the #4 and ST's in 2014 and if he pans out we won't have to worry about re-signing Cromartie in 2015.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Powers should stay one more year, especially with the uncertainty around Mathieu and the fact Cromartie didn't play well last year. Plus Powers is better suited as a slot CB anyway so I'm expecting his play to improve and be more consistent.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

apollo14000 wrote:
I think Powers should stay one more year, especially with the uncertainty around Mathieu and the fact Cromartie didn't play well last year. Plus Powers is better suited as a slot CB anyway so I'm expecting his play to improve and be more consistent.


Lot of money for a slot CB.

Plus TM32 (assuming he's healthy) covers the slot in nickel packages. Getting him closer to the football is ideal.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mtdowner wrote:
apollo14000 wrote:
I think Powers should stay one more year, especially with the uncertainty around Mathieu and the fact Cromartie didn't play well last year. Plus Powers is better suited as a slot CB anyway so I'm expecting his play to improve and be more consistent.


Lot of money for a slot CB.

Plus TM32 (assuming he's healthy) covers the slot in nickel packages. Getting him closer to the football is ideal.


You're ignoring some pretty big question marks. Cromartie has a lot of talent but didn't play well last year and is recovering from a hip injury. Mathieu is recovering from a pretty bad from multiple ligament tears. There's no guarantee either will stay healthy or play up to their ability next year.
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apollo14000 wrote:
mtdowner wrote:
apollo14000 wrote:
I think Powers should stay one more year, especially with the uncertainty around Mathieu and the fact Cromartie didn't play well last year. Plus Powers is better suited as a slot CB anyway so I'm expecting his play to improve and be more consistent.


Lot of money for a slot CB.

Plus TM32 (assuming he's healthy) covers the slot in nickel packages. Getting him closer to the football is ideal.


You're ignoring some pretty big question marks. Cromartie has a lot of talent but didn't play well last year and is recovering from a hip injury. Mathieu is recovering from a pretty bad from multiple ligament tears. There's no guarantee either will stay healthy or play up to their ability next year.


I guess you're right. I just assume they will come back 100% after their injuries. But Cromartie is supposedly already healed up. I'm guessing he checked out pretty nicely with our medical staff. TM32 is a freak who supposedly is in the Cards facility 24/7.

If we're keeping Powers on for insurance reasons, why not just use a draft pick on a CB and save some money?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bang bang
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mtdowner wrote:
apollo14000 wrote:
mtdowner wrote:
apollo14000 wrote:
I think Powers should stay one more year, especially with the uncertainty around Mathieu and the fact Cromartie didn't play well last year. Plus Powers is better suited as a slot CB anyway so I'm expecting his play to improve and be more consistent.


Lot of money for a slot CB.

Plus TM32 (assuming he's healthy) covers the slot in nickel packages. Getting him closer to the football is ideal.


You're ignoring some pretty big question marks. Cromartie has a lot of talent but didn't play well last year and is recovering from a hip injury. Mathieu is recovering from a pretty bad from multiple ligament tears. There's no guarantee either will stay healthy or play up to their ability next year.


I guess you're right. I just assume they will come back 100% after their injuries. But Cromartie is supposedly already healed up. I'm guessing he checked out pretty nicely with our medical staff. TM32 is a freak who supposedly is in the Cards facility 24/7.

If we're keeping Powers on for insurance reasons, why not just use a draft pick on a CB and save some money?


Because Powers is a known quantity and I honestly think he'll do much better next year in a reduced role. Plus if we keep him, we won't be forced to take a CB in the draft. As I see it, we only have 1 major need on D right now and that's SS. Impact 3-4 OLB is a pretty big need as well but we have a lot of depth there.
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apollo14000 wrote:
mtdowner wrote:
apollo14000 wrote:
mtdowner wrote:
apollo14000 wrote:
I think Powers should stay one more year, especially with the uncertainty around Mathieu and the fact Cromartie didn't play well last year. Plus Powers is better suited as a slot CB anyway so I'm expecting his play to improve and be more consistent.


Lot of money for a slot CB.

Plus TM32 (assuming he's healthy) covers the slot in nickel packages. Getting him closer to the football is ideal.


You're ignoring some pretty big question marks. Cromartie has a lot of talent but didn't play well last year and is recovering from a hip injury. Mathieu is recovering from a pretty bad from multiple ligament tears. There's no guarantee either will stay healthy or play up to their ability next year.


I guess you're right. I just assume they will come back 100% after their injuries. But Cromartie is supposedly already healed up. I'm guessing he checked out pretty nicely with our medical staff. TM32 is a freak who supposedly is in the Cards facility 24/7.

If we're keeping Powers on for insurance reasons, why not just use a draft pick on a CB and save some money?


Because Powers is a known quantity and I honestly think he'll do much better next year in a reduced role. Plus if we keep him, we won't be forced to take a CB in the draft. As I see it, we only have 1 major need on D right now and that's SS. Impact 3-4 OLB is a pretty big need as well but we have a lot of depth there.


Kent Somers says you're right. Powers isn't going anywhere. I lose.

Anyways, we're going to be in excellent position going into the draft. Don't really have to worry about needs. Just draft talent.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mtdowner wrote:
apollo14000 wrote:
mtdowner wrote:
apollo14000 wrote:
mtdowner wrote:
apollo14000 wrote:
I think Powers should stay one more year, especially with the uncertainty around Mathieu and the fact Cromartie didn't play well last year. Plus Powers is better suited as a slot CB anyway so I'm expecting his play to improve and be more consistent.


Lot of money for a slot CB.

Plus TM32 (assuming he's healthy) covers the slot in nickel packages. Getting him closer to the football is ideal.


You're ignoring some pretty big question marks. Cromartie has a lot of talent but didn't play well last year and is recovering from a hip injury. Mathieu is recovering from a pretty bad from multiple ligament tears. There's no guarantee either will stay healthy or play up to their ability next year.


I guess you're right. I just assume they will come back 100% after their injuries. But Cromartie is supposedly already healed up. I'm guessing he checked out pretty nicely with our medical staff. TM32 is a freak who supposedly is in the Cards facility 24/7.

If we're keeping Powers on for insurance reasons, why not just use a draft pick on a CB and save some money?


Because Powers is a known quantity and I honestly think he'll do much better next year in a reduced role. Plus if we keep him, we won't be forced to take a CB in the draft. As I see it, we only have 1 major need on D right now and that's SS. Impact 3-4 OLB is a pretty big need as well but we have a lot of depth there.


Anyways, we're going to be in excellent position going into the draft. Don't really have to worry about needs. Just draft talent.


Exactly which is why I love Keim's approach to FA. Fill a lot of needs so you can pick BPA in the draft.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like this signing because it's one year - I have concerns about his hip, but since it's only one year there's no long term risk. This is very much like the Dansby signing - had a position in need with a guy potentially out in the first part of the season and brought in a vet who has previously been a pro-bowl level player hoping to prove himself on a one year deal.

By the way - the fact that Cromartie went to a pro bowl last year is a joke - he was not a pro-bowl level player last season. The fact that he fought through his injury to play is impressive however.

Also I concur about Jerraud Powers - his experience and level of play is definitely worth 2.75M this season with the risk we are assuming at the CB position. That risk includes Cromartie too - even if he checked out well medically, he's had more than one season dealing with hip problems - good to have a solid backup like Powers just in case.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just because we haven't cut Powers now doesn't mean we wont later. This could set up for us drafting say, Stanley Jean-Baptiste, a very raw corner to develop for a year at the #4
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LuckyNumber11 wrote:
Just because we haven't cut Powers now doesn't mean we wont later. This could set up for us drafting say, Stanley Jean-Baptiste, a very raw corner to develop for a year at the #4


True. In any event, if it does happen, it will be after the draft but before June 1st.
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