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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:30 am    Post subject: 2014 Draft Prospects Thread [Vol. 4] Reply with quote




Schedule
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Jan. 18: East-West Shrine Game, Tropicana Field, St. Petersburg, Fla.
Jan. 25: Senior Bowl, Ladd-Peebles Stadium, Mobile, Ala.
Feb. 19-25: Combine, Lucas Oil Stadium, Indianapolis
May 8-10: NFL draft, New York, Radio City Music Hall. First round begins at 8 p.m. ET.


Eagles Picks
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Rd 1 No. 22 Overall
Rd 2 No. 54 Overall
Rd 3 No. 86 Overall
Rd 4 No. TBD
Rd 5 No. TBD
Rd 5 From New England in Isaac Sopoaga Trade
Rd 7 No. TBD


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DPT Vol. 2

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DPT Vol. 3


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http://walterfootball.com/draft2014meetingsteams.php
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This is a compilation of draft prospect meetings sorted by team. The data was acquired via Charlie Campbell (@draftcampbell) and other media sources.

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Philadelphia Eagles:
Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M (COM)
Tajh Boyd, QB, Clemson (SR)
Charles Sims, RB, West Virginia (SR)
Jonathan Brown, LB, Illinois (SR)
Mike Evans, WR, Texas A&M (PRI)
Kelvin Benjamin, WR, FSU (COM)
Philly Brown, WR, tOSU (COM)
Martavis Bryant, WR, Clemson (COM)
Wesley Johnson, OL, Vanderbilt (SR)
Dakota Dozier, G, Furman (EW)
Ryan Shazier, LB, Ohio State (COM)
Kyle Van Noy, LB, Brigham Young (SR)
Adrian Hubbard, LB, Alabama (COM)
Devon Kennard, LB, USC (EW)
Darqueze Dennard, DB, Michigan State (COM)
Kyle Fuller, CB, Virginia Tech (PRO)
Deone Bucannon, DB, Washington State (SR)
Dontae Johnson, DB, N.C. State (COM)
Keith McGill, DB, Utah (COM)
Robert Thomas, DL, Arkansas (PRO)
Khyri Thorton, DL, Southern Miss (PRO)
Will Clarke, DL, West Virginia (SR)
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SR - Senior Bowl meeting.
EW - East-West Shrine meeting.
COM - Combine meeting.
INT - Interested.
VINT - Very Interested.
PRO - Pro Day meeting.
PRI - Private Workout.
% - indicates more than one meeting.
# - indicates meeting set up outside of the 2014 Senior Bowl or the 2014 East-West Shrine Game

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If Calvin Pryor and Ha-Ha are both available which one do you take and why?
Based off of who we currently have at FS: Jenkins, Allen; and SS: Wolff; and the two assumed irrelevant players at the position: Maragos and Keelan; I'd lean towards Pryor. Behind Wolff there's nobody at SS. Even if we truly do not have traditional "FS" and "SS" roles, we need improved tackling overall in this unit. Pryor brings this asset. Between Jenkins, Allen, Wolff and Pryor, I think we could field a solid safety combo while being adequately comfortable if somebody goes down with injury. Personally though, I don't see us taking a safety in round 1. Even if he is BPA. If a S is BPA #1 and an OLB/DL/WR is BPA #2, I think we go with a latter option.

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Just to keep things going...

RollEagles wrote:
EagleBlueDon wrote:
Remixxxxxxx wrote:
If Calvin Pryor and Ha-Ha are both available which one do you take and why?
Based off of who we currently have at FS: Jenkins, Allen; and SS: Wolff; and the two assumed irrelevant players at the position: Maragos and Keelan; I'd lean towards Pryor. Behind Wolff there's nobody at SS. Even if we truly do not have traditional "FS" and "SS" roles, we need improved tackling overall in this unit. Pryor brings this asset. Between Jenkins, Allen, Wolff and Pryor, I think we could field a solid safety combo while being adequately comfortable if somebody goes down with injury. Personally though, I don't see us taking a safety in round 1. Even if he is BPA. If a S is BPA #1 and an OLB/DL/WR is BPA #2, I think we go with a latter option.


Idk I look at Allen and think he could play either, I look at Wolff he could play some back end safety and in the box (at a high level remains the ?). Jenkins is a slot cover, FS guy. So keeping with the versatility profile I see Ha-Ha probably higher on their board. He's played all over in that 'Bama defensive backfield. Yeah he stood out in the A&M game not being able to cover over the top but the CBs never did a good job on Mike Evans getting a jam or re-routing.
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Personally I like Wolff a lot and think he can be our long term starter at safety as long as he can stay healthy of courss...


I still want LMJ. Dude can cam be our rangy, centerfield type safety...love his game
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baconrad3 wrote:
Personally I like Wolff a lot and think he can be our long term starter at safety as long as he can stay healthy of courss...


I still want LMJ. Dude can cam be our rangy, centerfield type safety...love his game



Id CMJ for LMJ in the second
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baconrad3 wrote:
Personally I like Wolff a lot and think he can be our long term starter at safety as long as he can stay healthy of courss...


I still want LMJ. Dude can cam be our rangy, centerfield type safety...love his game



Id CMJ for LMJ in the second


CMJ for LMJ! Think of all the GDT name possibilities....

Id be stoked if we could trade back to the late first/early second, grab him there, then go pass rusher with our other second.

Hell, people are saying theyd be ok with Buccanon at 22....but why not Joyner?

Hes the closest thing we'll ever get to Brian Dawkins IMO.....plays with the same kind of passion, attitude, etc. Only Joyner is like my height lol

Also kinda liking Jackson Jeffcoat as a mid round pick. Cant argue with his athleticism dudes a freak....

LMJ is PERFECT for this team. He is small, yes. But who cares when the dude plays like Kam Chancellor.....only hes more of a cover safety and brings versatility.

Im gonna be so jelly of whoever drafts Joyner if its not us.....
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Chip is a size queen we all know LMJ isn't on the radar.
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Chip is a size queen we all know LMJ isn't on the radar.


He has preached about "big people beating up little people," yet he trades for a guy like 5-6 190 pound Darren Sproles. And he signs off on drafting a guy like 6-2 220 pound Matt Barkley or 5-11 200 pound Earl Wolf. He brings and keeps on the 53-man roster an undersized 3-4 NT like 6-2 293 pound Damion Square.

I think the size aspect does play a big role. But if there is a player he absolutely loves, Chip Kelly will go get him, regardless of size.
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First In Flight wrote:
ninjapirate wrote:
Chip is a size queen we all know LMJ isn't on the radar.


He has preached about "big people beating up little people," yet he trades for a guy like 5-6 190 pound Darren Sproles. And he signs off on drafting a guy like 6-2 220 pound Matt Barkley or 5-11 200 pound Earl Wolf. He brings and keeps on the 53-man roster an undersized 3-4 NT like 6-2 293 pound Damion Square.

I think the size aspect does play a big role. But if there is a player he absolutely loves, Chip Kelly will go get him, regardless of size.



I don't think small players really apply to offense.
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I don't think small players really apply to offense.


Carry on then.

It makes sense his implications of size being important would pertain more to defense. Even though he was never that specific about it.

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/dneagles/Chip-Bigger-People-Beat-Up-Little-People.html


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Posted: Wednesday, March 20, 2013, 12:20 PM

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asked if the eight free agent signees [from 2013] indicate a trend toward the longer, leaner athletes he preferred at Oregon, Kelly agreed.

"We want taller, longer people because bigger people beat up little people," Kelly said. This has not been the Eagles' philosophy in recent seasons.
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I do agree that Chip wants big guys on defense, but there are players who are exceptions, and Joyner is one.

Joyner doesnt get beat up by big people. He beats them up. He is a maniac on the field....hes been one of my favorite players the past couple yrs in CFB.
I dont think that size will make or break it. If theres a guy the FO loves, regardless if hes the prototypical size, theyd take him.

LMJ absolutely should be on our radar.....
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Ok, so I watched some highlights.

Kids got a little Dawk in him, huh?

He flys around the field. His size does concern me next level though.
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With the Desean trade talk, here are some receivers the Eagles have already talked to:

WR Mike Evans, Texas A&M (Private Workout)
WR Kelvin Benjamin, Florida State (Combine)
WR Martavis Bryant, Clemson (Combine)

Looks like Chip and Howie are looking at the bigger guys.
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EagleDeegle wrote:
With the Desean trade talk, here are some receivers the Eagles have already talked to:

WR Mike Evans, Texas A&M (Private Workout)
WR Kelvin Benjamin, Florida State (Combine)
WR Martavis Bryant, Clemson (Combine)

Looks like Chip and Howie are looking at the bigger guys.


We've talked to a lot more wr's then just those guys and we chatted up small wr's at the shrine game and senior bowl. Don't be surprised when we draft a Chandler Jones or John Brown in the late rounds.
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