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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:38 am    Post subject: Desean Jackson Reply with quote

Eagles are shopping him. Wonder what Reid really thinks of him and if we will show interest.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:42 am    Post subject: Re: Desean Jackson Reply with quote

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Eagles are shopping him. Wonder what Reid really thinks of him and if we will show interest.



There's been connections and speculations for a couple weeks now and idk if we have the cap space to take on his contract plus giving up whatever it would take to get him.

He would be the perfect fit IMO opposite of Bowe.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A team would need $10.75 million in cap space to take on DeSean Jackson unless they reworked his contract to lower the charge #Eagles


That number basically puts us out of it. Not to mention the guy wants a new contract every year after just having signed a big one. I don't think he's going to take WAY less money to come to KC.

We'd likely have to re-work Smith and Berry to get enough under the cap to even make a trade, and then we could expect a prompt contract negotiation. Not to mention think of how much money that puts in our WR corps. Honestly I think we need to just sign Avant/Bennett on the cheap and go with a young guy in the draft.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tate, Cotchery, Sanders and Jackson all 2-4 round draft choices.....who knew about them before the had an opportunity AFTER they were drafted. My guess is that R&D are thinking this too...who is gonna be the 1,3,4,5 round choice that will give them what we need.

Jackson is a diva who wants a new contract 10 minutes after he signed his last, Cotchery is on borrowed time, Sanders could have made a difference and Tate is somewhat of a diva also. I'll take my chances with what we have, maybe a vet brought in when final cuts are made and a couple of R&D draft choices.

Additionally, move the rookie (Kush?) to center, Rodney to guard (where he played in college and was drafted as) Fish and Stephenson to tackles, and with Johnson and Watkins you have an OL that could gel. Grab a couple guard/tackle types in final NFL cuts, and draft 1-2 OL.

Now you're building thru the draft and not trying to build a dream team thru very expensive and "will come back to haunt you" salary cap issues with vets. Donkeys know they have one maybe two years to get it done with Manning and they have bet the farm on FA. I can smell Elway's desperation. Anyone remember the Eagles 'dream team'? How'd that work out.

I truly like the discipline the Chiefs have shown. I trust Dorsey's & Reid's plan. They, more than any of us, know what they want and know how to get it. My guess is that when the season opens, we will like what we see and feel good about moving forward....without having put ourselves into proverbial cap hell, again. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I'm not a desean fan and we would definitely have to make some moves to even accommodate him but his skill set is imo exactly what we need. We have to find a threat somewhere, someone who can stretch the field.

I'm just not a fan at all of bringing in someone like Avant or Bennett unless they are coming for vet minimum. The Morgan kid from NO is explosive and has "potential" but hasn't been able to stay healthy. Sure wish we were in position to get someone like Sammy Watkins in the draft. Sad
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diesel2692 wrote:
Yeah I'm not a desean fan and we would definitely have to make some moves to even accommodate him but his skill set is imo exactly what we need. We have to find a threat somewhere, someone who can stretch the field.

I'm just not a fan at all of bringing in someone like Avant or Bennett unless they are coming for vet minimum. The Morgan kid from NO is explosive and has "potential" but hasn't been able to stay healthy. Sure wish we were in position to get someone like Sammy Watkins in the draft. Sad



Morgan re-signed with NO
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In speculative piece about what teams could be in the hunt to trade for DeSean Jackson, Gregg Rosenthal of Around The League says the Chiefs are a team that makes sense.

Salary cap room is the major problem here; otherwise this makes a lot of sense. Andy Reid knows Jackson’s strengths and weaknesses. Kansas City needs receivers after losing out on the Emmanuel Sanders sweepstakes. All of these potential landing spots are long shots, but this one is the most far-fetched.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not that I would do it but would any of you consider trading Bowe for Jackson straight up?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Not that I would do it but would any of you consider trading Bowe for Jackson straight up?


I would take Jacksons cap hit over Bowes and the player any day if it would work that way which im not sure it would.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I say trade two 3rd round picks (2014 + 2015) for DJ, draft Kelvin Benjamin in the 1st, then trade Bowe for a 2nd or 3rd round pick (2014).

Boom!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jimmydee1 wrote:
Tate, Cotchery, Sanders and Jackson all 2-4 round draft choices.....who knew about them before the had an opportunity AFTER they were drafted. My guess is that R&D are thinking this too...who is gonna be the 1,3,4,5 round choice that will give them what we need.

Jackson is a diva who wants a new contract 10 minutes after he signed his last, Cotchery is on borrowed time, Sanders could have made a difference and Tate is somewhat of a diva also. I'll take my chances with what we have, maybe a vet brought in when final cuts are made and a couple of R&D draft choices.

Additionally, move the rookie (Kush?) to center, Rodney to guard (where he played in college and was drafted as) Fish and Stephenson to tackles, and with Johnson and Watkins you have an OL that could gel. Grab a couple guard/tackle types in final NFL cuts, and draft 1-2 OL.

Now you're building thru the draft and not trying to build a dream team thru very expensive and "will come back to haunt you" salary cap issues with vets. Donkeys know they have one maybe two years to get it done with Manning and they have bet the farm on FA. I can smell Elway's desperation. Anyone remember the Eagles 'dream team'? How'd that work out.

I truly like the discipline the Chiefs have shown. I trust Dorsey's & Reid's plan. They, more than any of us, know what they want and know how to get it. My guess is that when the season opens, we will like what we see and feel good about moving forward....without having put ourselves into proverbial cap hell, again. Wink
Like your idea of moving pieces on the Oline. However, not sure it will happen this year(Kush is probably not ready for full time duty). BTW, Hudson may have had his name announced at draft as G but the plan from the start was to play him at C.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flexx wrote:
jimmydee1 wrote:
Tate, Cotchery, Sanders and Jackson all 2-4 round draft choices.....who knew about them before the had an opportunity AFTER they were drafted. My guess is that R&D are thinking this too...who is gonna be the 1,3,4,5 round choice that will give them what we need.

Jackson is a diva who wants a new contract 10 minutes after he signed his last, Cotchery is on borrowed time, Sanders could have made a difference and Tate is somewhat of a diva also. I'll take my chances with what we have, maybe a vet brought in when final cuts are made and a couple of R&D draft choices.

Additionally, move the rookie (Kush?) to center, Rodney to guard (where he played in college and was drafted as) Fish and Stephenson to tackles, and with Johnson and Watkins you have an OL that could gel. Grab a couple guard/tackle types in final NFL cuts, and draft 1-2 OL.

Now you're building thru the draft and not trying to build a dream team thru very expensive and "will come back to haunt you" salary cap issues with vets. Donkeys know they have one maybe two years to get it done with Manning and they have bet the farm on FA. I can smell Elway's desperation. Anyone remember the Eagles 'dream team'? How'd that work out.

I truly like the discipline the Chiefs have shown. I trust Dorsey's & Reid's plan. They, more than any of us, know what they want and know how to get it. My guess is that when the season opens, we will like what we see and feel good about moving forward....without having put ourselves into proverbial cap hell, again. Wink
Like your idea of moving pieces on the Oline. However, not sure it will happen this year(Kush is probably not ready for full time duty). BTW, Hudson may have had his name announced at draft as G but the plan from the start was to play him at C.


Yeah, I really don't like the idea of having Kush and Hudson starting right now. I think we would get pushed around inside.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty sure Rodney Hudson was a center in college for most of his time there.

I wouldn't mind Jackson for like $5MM a year max. No way is he worth that contract. Since he usually only plays like 12 games a season, that averages out to way more than Bowe per game.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I say trade two 3rd round picks (2014 + 2015) for DJ, draft Kelvin Benjamin in the 1st, then trade Bowe for a 2nd or 3rd round pick (2014).

Boom!


I bet you're killer in Madden. If only it was this easy, not to mention, Jackson is a walking hold out waiting to happen. Wants a new contract before the ink on his newly signed contract is dried.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bigschmadt00 wrote:
Pretty sure Rodney Hudson was a center in college for most of his time there.

I wouldn't mind Jackson for like $5MM a year max. No way is he worth that contract. Since he usually only plays like 12 games a season, that averages out to way more than Bowe per game.


I am sure you are correct Hudson did play Center.
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