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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:59 am    Post subject: Bryant McKinnie says he's willing to play right tackle Reply with quote

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000334895/article/bryant-mckinnie-says-hes-willing-to-play-right-tackle

What you guys think about him or Clabo at RT for 1 year and draft Mewhort (OT) in the 3 Round. Mewhort take over as a Starter next season ?

Than in the first Round we can draft Su`a - Filo (what a beast).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC4z8dRewZA

our O-Line :

McKinnie/Clabo--Smith--Pouncey--Sua-Filo--Albert

that sounds so good to me and we have now the 2 Round pick for a RB-> Sankey,Mason,Carey.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:15 am    Post subject: Re: Bryant McKinnie says he's willing to play right tackle Reply with quote

Huddle wrote:

our O-Line :

McKinnie/Clabo--Smith--Pouncey--Sua-Filo--Albert

that sounds so good to me and we have now the 2 Round pick for a RB-> Sankey,Mason,Carey.


Swap Guards and or Draft a guard for the right side. Smith is gonna be left guard.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No thanks to McKinnie on the right side. He's been a LT his whole career and he is not fast enough to play RT IMO in our offense. I could see us bringing Eric Winston on a 1 year deal and then drafting Mewhort, Moses, or Turner
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No thanks to McKinnie on the right side. He's been a LT his whole career and he is not fast enough to play RT IMO in our offense. I could see us bringing Eric Winston on a 1 year deal and then drafting Mewhort, Moses, or Turner


I do not understand your rationale. I agree with response but the rationale puzzles me. LT's typically need to be more agile as the LB's or DE's rushing from that side are more athletic than the other side. Conversely RT's tend not to be as mobile. So when you say McKinnie is not fast enough to play RT I say bologne since he has played LT for many years.

As I said I agree with your answer just not your explanation. McKinnie is just looking to keep his paycheck flowing. He is on the cusp of no longer being NFL relevant and his plea to play RT is a hail mary to generate interest in his services.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ovaw8lover wrote:
MiamiGuy13 wrote:
No thanks to McKinnie on the right side. He's been a LT his whole career and he is not fast enough to play RT IMO in our offense. I could see us bringing Eric Winston on a 1 year deal and then drafting Mewhort, Moses, or Turner


I do not understand your rationale. I agree with response but the rationale puzzles me. LT's typically need to be more agile as the LB's or DE's rushing from that side are more athletic than the other side. Conversely RT's tend not to be as mobile. So when you say McKinnie is not fast enough to play RT I say bologne since he has played LT for many years.

As I said I agree with your answer just not your explanation. McKinnie is just looking to keep his paycheck flowing. He is on the cusp of no longer being NFL relevant and his plea to play RT is a hail mary to generate interest in his services.


I find in today's NFL most of the more agile pass rushing DE's tend to rush from the right side. Probably in order to take advantage of worse OT's on that side. That's the side Wake rushes from.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bpastermack wrote:
ovaw8lover wrote:
MiamiGuy13 wrote:
No thanks to McKinnie on the right side. He's been a LT his whole career and he is not fast enough to play RT IMO in our offense. I could see us bringing Eric Winston on a 1 year deal and then drafting Mewhort, Moses, or Turner


I do not understand your rationale. I agree with response but the rationale puzzles me. LT's typically need to be more agile as the LB's or DE's rushing from that side are more athletic than the other side. Conversely RT's tend not to be as mobile. So when you say McKinnie is not fast enough to play RT I say bologne since he has played LT for many years.

As I said I agree with your answer just not your explanation. McKinnie is just looking to keep his paycheck flowing. He is on the cusp of no longer being NFL relevant and his plea to play RT is a hail mary to generate interest in his services.


I find in today's NFL most of the more agile pass rushing DE's tend to rush from the right side. Probably in order to take advantage of worse OT's on that side. That's the side Wake rushes from.


That is not accurate. It is possible they switch sides from time to time to take advantage of matchup but the best pass rushers are not right side dominant.

Robert Mathis played predominantly the LOLB spot this year-19.5 sacks, Robert Quinn-LDE w/ 19 sacks, Mario Williams, LDE-13 sacs, Greg Hardy LDE, 15 sacks, Tamba Hali, John Abraham, Jared Allen are great pass rusher all play the LDE spot. Of course you have power pass rushers like Cameron Jordan, Charles Johnson who are effective but they are not elusive.

I agree pass rushers play both sides these days. We say the Fins do that with Jason Taylor as well. We also see Wake switch sides but LT is still the most important and agile of the OT's.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ovaw8lover wrote:
bpastermack wrote:
ovaw8lover wrote:
MiamiGuy13 wrote:
No thanks to McKinnie on the right side. He's been a LT his whole career and he is not fast enough to play RT IMO in our offense. I could see us bringing Eric Winston on a 1 year deal and then drafting Mewhort, Moses, or Turner


I do not understand your rationale. I agree with response but the rationale puzzles me. LT's typically need to be more agile as the LB's or DE's rushing from that side are more athletic than the other side. Conversely RT's tend not to be as mobile. So when you say McKinnie is not fast enough to play RT I say bologne since he has played LT for many years.

As I said I agree with your answer just not your explanation. McKinnie is just looking to keep his paycheck flowing. He is on the cusp of no longer being NFL relevant and his plea to play RT is a hail mary to generate interest in his services.


I find in today's NFL most of the more agile pass rushing DE's tend to rush from the right side. Probably in order to take advantage of worse OT's on that side. That's the side Wake rushes from.


That is not accurate. It is possible they switch sides from time to time to take advantage of matchup but the best pass rushers are not right side dominant.

Robert Mathis played predominantly the LOLB spot this year-19.5 sacks, Robert Quinn-LDE w/ 19 sacks, Mario Williams, LDE-13 sacs, Greg Hardy LDE, 15 sacks, Tamba Hali, John Abraham, Jared Allen are great pass rusher all play the LDE spot. Of course you have power pass rushers like Cameron Jordan, Charles Johnson who are effective but they are not elusive.

I agree pass rushers play both sides these days. We say the Fins do that with Jason Taylor as well. We also see Wake switch sides but LT is still the most important and agile of the OT's.


You realize LOLBs and LDEs play over the RT.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cddolphin wrote:
ovaw8lover wrote:
bpastermack wrote:
ovaw8lover wrote:
MiamiGuy13 wrote:
No thanks to McKinnie on the right side. He's been a LT his whole career and he is not fast enough to play RT IMO in our offense. I could see us bringing Eric Winston on a 1 year deal and then drafting Mewhort, Moses, or Turner


I do not understand your rationale. I agree with response but the rationale puzzles me. LT's typically need to be more agile as the LB's or DE's rushing from that side are more athletic than the other side. Conversely RT's tend not to be as mobile. So when you say McKinnie is not fast enough to play RT I say bologne since he has played LT for many years.

As I said I agree with your answer just not your explanation. McKinnie is just looking to keep his paycheck flowing. He is on the cusp of no longer being NFL relevant and his plea to play RT is a hail mary to generate interest in his services.


I find in today's NFL most of the more agile pass rushing DE's tend to rush from the right side. Probably in order to take advantage of worse OT's on that side. That's the side Wake rushes from.


That is not accurate. It is possible they switch sides from time to time to take advantage of matchup but the best pass rushers are not right side dominant.

Robert Mathis played predominantly the LOLB spot this year-19.5 sacks, Robert Quinn-LDE w/ 19 sacks, Mario Williams, LDE-13 sacs, Greg Hardy LDE, 15 sacks, Tamba Hali, John Abraham, Jared Allen are great pass rusher all play the LDE spot. Of course you have power pass rushers like Cameron Jordan, Charles Johnson who are effective but they are not elusive.

I agree pass rushers play both sides these days. We say the Fins do that with Jason Taylor as well. We also see Wake switch sides but LT is still the most important and agile of the OT's.


You realize LOLBs and LDEs play over the RT.


Well then the RDE and ROLB. But I think everyone gets my point
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ovaw8lover wrote:
cddolphin wrote:
ovaw8lover wrote:
bpastermack wrote:
ovaw8lover wrote:
MiamiGuy13 wrote:
No thanks to McKinnie on the right side. He's been a LT his whole career and he is not fast enough to play RT IMO in our offense. I could see us bringing Eric Winston on a 1 year deal and then drafting Mewhort, Moses, or Turner


I do not understand your rationale. I agree with response but the rationale puzzles me. LT's typically need to be more agile as the LB's or DE's rushing from that side are more athletic than the other side. Conversely RT's tend not to be as mobile. So when you say McKinnie is not fast enough to play RT I say bologne since he has played LT for many years.

As I said I agree with your answer just not your explanation. McKinnie is just looking to keep his paycheck flowing. He is on the cusp of no longer being NFL relevant and his plea to play RT is a hail mary to generate interest in his services.


I find in today's NFL most of the more agile pass rushing DE's tend to rush from the right side. Probably in order to take advantage of worse OT's on that side. That's the side Wake rushes from.


That is not accurate. It is possible they switch sides from time to time to take advantage of matchup but the best pass rushers are not right side dominant.

Robert Mathis played predominantly the LOLB spot this year-19.5 sacks, Robert Quinn-LDE w/ 19 sacks, Mario Williams, LDE-13 sacs, Greg Hardy LDE, 15 sacks, Tamba Hali, John Abraham, Jared Allen are great pass rusher all play the LDE spot. Of course you have power pass rushers like Cameron Jordan, Charles Johnson who are effective but they are not elusive.

I agree pass rushers play both sides these days. We say the Fins do that with Jason Taylor as well. We also see Wake switch sides but LT is still the most important and agile of the OT's.


You realize LOLBs and LDEs play over the RT.


Well then the RDE and ROLB. But I think everyone gets my point


I think the agility and speed required of a LT has less to do with dominant pass rushers and which side they come from than the majority of QBs being right hand dominant. To state the obvious, right hand dominant QBs will take their drop back steps with their back to the LT, making the LT the blindside protection.

Nevertheless I do agree with Ovaw that traditionally the RDE is the better pass rusher of the two starting DE's. Also, sacks don't tell the whole story.

That being said, most edge rushers find their rhythm and niche from a particular side and always prefer one side over the other.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would take McKinney for a RT provided its a cap friendly deal. Obviously his best years are behind him, but I think he could have a year left as a stop gap RT.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Bryant McKinnie says he's willing to play right tackle Reply with quote

Huddle wrote:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000334895/article/bryant-mckinnie-says-hes-willing-to-play-right-tackle

What you guys think about him or Clabo at RT for 1 year and draft Mewhort (OT) in the 3 Round. Mewhort take over as a Starter next season ?

Than in the first Round we can draft Su`a - Filo (what a beast).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC4z8dRewZA

our O-Line :

McKinnie/Clabo--Smith--Pouncey--Sua-Filo--Albert

that sounds so good to me and we have now the 2 Round pick for a RB-> Sankey,Mason,Carey.


I would pass on McKinnie. I do not hate the idea of bringing Clabo back since he did look much better later in the season as he got used to the system.

But I do love your thought process, taking Su'a - Filo in the 1st and Mewhort in the 3rd with a RB sandwiched in between like Carlos Hyde. That or if one of the LB's fall I would be happy with that as well.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Bryant McKinnie says he's willing to play right tackle Reply with quote

skatewood2 wrote:
Huddle wrote:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000334895/article/bryant-mckinnie-says-hes-willing-to-play-right-tackle

What you guys think about him or Clabo at RT for 1 year and draft Mewhort (OT) in the 3 Round. Mewhort take over as a Starter next season ?

Than in the first Round we can draft Su`a - Filo (what a beast).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC4z8dRewZA

our O-Line :

McKinnie/Clabo--Smith--Pouncey--Sua-Filo--Albert

that sounds so good to me and we have now the 2 Round pick for a RB-> Sankey,Mason,Carey.


I would pass on McKinnie. I do not hate the idea of bringing Clabo back since he did look much better later in the season as he got used to the system.

But I do love your thought process, taking Su'a - Filo in the 1st and Mewhort in the 3rd with a RB sandwiched in between like Carlos Hyde. That or if one of the LB's fall I would be happy with that as well.


would LOVE to find a way to trade down and get Su'a Filo in the mid 20s
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

McKinnie would be a good backup swing tackle for about 2M.

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McKinnie is still lazy and will come in to camp out of shape and ineffective for the 1st 4 or 5 games.....
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ViolentMonk71 wrote:
McKinnie is still lazy and will come in to camp out of shape and ineffective for the 1st 4 or 5 games.....


U r probably correct, but I would still consider him as an option if the price is right. He's far from my first choice, but we could do much worse than McKinnie ( see 2nd round draft bust Johnathan Martin ).

I am also open to Clabos return. He did perform better as the season progressed.

Additionally, we are spending a 7th rounder in this years draft for McKinney. Another reason I would like for us to get some use out of him.
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