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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's the cap hit?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TomRalph wrote:
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This is his first major contract isn't?


Yeah it is, you worried about him 'Haynesworth-ing' it?


No. Just hoping he stays away from PEDs and marijuana. Pretty sure he's one strike away from an one year suspension from the NFL.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I honestly only want Browner matching up with J-Thomas in the AFC as far as TE's go. Otherwise I really do want him on the outside a lot- the violence with which he plays in those first 5 yards is something to behold, and it is quite hilarious watching him ragdoll a receiver.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He has coverage skills that would be wasted if we solely had him matchup vs TEs. Leave him in man and punish WRs. Let Jamie Collins be the hybrid...Collins will only get better.
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I_GET_SAX wrote:
He has coverage skills that would be wasted if we solely had him matchup vs TEs. Leave him in man and punish WRs. Let Jamie Collins be the hybrid...Collins will only get better.


With Revis on the other side I would imagine that all the safety help would be shifted to BB's side allowing him play as rough and aggresive with WRs early as he wants without worrying about double moves (which he struggles with being so big) getting behind him.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As pointed out by some on twitter already adding these two CBs will be most beneficial to DMC as it narrows his portion of the field (the middle) to make plays and see the field.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Week 5 come on.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only $1 million guaranteed on the deal.

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Total value: $12.35 million 
Maximum value: $16.8 million 
Signing bonus: $0 

2014 
Base: $1 million (guaranteed)
Offseason workout bonus: $250,000 
Roster bonus: $500,000 for making the 53-man roster at any point during the season (just has to be on it for one day and he sees this) 
Second roster bonus: $150,000 per game he's on the 46-man roster 
Playtime incentives: Up to $1.25 million 

2015 
Base: $1.9 million 
Roster bonus: $2 million (90-man roster at start of league year) 
Second roster bonus: $100,000 per game he’s on the 46-man roster 
Playtime incentives: Up to $500,000 ($250k for 75 percent playing time; another $250k for 85 percent playing time) 

2016 
Base: $1.9 million 
Roster bonus: $2 million (90-man roster at start of league year) 
Second roster bonus: $100,000 per game he’s on the 46
Playtime incentives: Up to $500,000 ($250k for 75 percent playing time; another $250k for 85 percent playing time) 


http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4760347/closer-look-at-browners-contract
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^Was just about to post this. What an awesome deal, very team friendly. Can cut him next offseason and not have any dead money. And if he plays well, he gets paid $7m a season in 2015 and 2016.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For Those Cap experts, what does that make his Cap hit ?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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For Those Cap experts, what does that make his Cap hit ?


I think it will be $1.75M for this year. Though if they classify any of the incentives as likely to be earned, that number could go up. If it does, it will just take away from the amount of cap we'll be able to rollover into 2015, as was the case with Ninkovich and someone else I'm forgetting from this past year.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dhunt2402 wrote:
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For Those Cap experts, what does that make his Cap hit ?


I think it will be $1.75M for this year. Though if they classify any of the incentives as likely to be earned, that number could go up. If it does, it will just take away from the amount of cap we'll be able to rollover into 2015, as was the case with Ninkovich and someone else I'm forgetting from this past year.


You have to imagine that the 46 roster per game is LTBE for the games after week 4. I would say the cap hit for this year would be 3.6 mil when you add up those individual bonuses.

The wildcard here is what the playtime incentives are.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-england-patriots/brandon-browner/

Spotrac has it at $1.75m. Not sure how reliable that is though.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

patsfan06 wrote:
For Those Cap experts, what does that make his Cap hit ?

Depends on how the incentives are categorized and earned. The workout bonus is already technically taken into account, if he doesn't earn it it will be credited back to the team. The roster bonus depends on the cutoff date and the number of games played, which, given his participation last year, will be a smaller number than the sum of per game bonuses. The play time incentives are categorized as LTBE or NLTBE based on last year as well. I'm guessing when all is said and done, his cap hold for 2014 will be around $3 million.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Browner said he was here to play CB. Not much credence behind it, but say they stick him at CB. What are your thoughts of Arrington actually moving to Safety? Considering they use him very similarly to Gregory?
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