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DJ_Fka


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brooks FSU in the 3rd

Can play FS & SS

Solid tackler, solid in size and has speed and pop

Plus he went to FSU, no doubts there Smile
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LuckyNumber11


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One guy who I've been liking a lot more recently to take a Bells spot- Deone Buchanon. He's a heavy hitter, tough against the run. While his ball skills are great I've hear they've improved a lot while at Wazzu. He reminds me a lot of Benard Pollard, I think he's a great fit for us in the second round
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LuckyNumber11 wrote:
One guy who I've been liking a lot more recently to take a Bells spot- Deone Buchanon. He's a heavy hitter, tough against the run. While his ball skills are great I've hear they've improved a lot while at Wazzu. He reminds me a lot of Benard Pollard, I think he's a great fit for us in the second round


Yeah - would love it if he were there in the 2nd for us - only lousy part is it looks like he could be rising potentially to the mid 2nd after running a great 40 at the combine. BTW - he claims to have better fluidity than others give him credit for - http://seattletimes.com/html/seahawks/2023034274_seahawkscombine03xml.html .
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's a guy if like to drop 10 to 20 picks to pick up. I love Buchanon
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Danieal Manning any good?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

S/OLB in the first 2 rounds = longterm D complete
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 9:46 pm    Post subject: Adrian Wilson???? Reply with quote

A-Dub just got released by New England, his coverage skills have dropped but his blitzing is still elite, I think he could be a candidate for a 1 year "prove your worth big-time money" deal and lets see how that works out, he could help out in guarding the TE's and would be a huge asset to our run-defense.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would be nice to have someone who can cover deep and stay on a TE.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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stchamp98 wrote:
Very good question, one that I've been researching for some time now. While it would certainly make sense to add some size and physicality to the back half the way Seattle has with a guy like Kam Chancellor, I believe our problem covering opposing tight ends stems less from a lack of size from the safety position and more from a lack of range, especially as it pertained to Yeremiah Bell. In my film study and metrics analysis I specifically focused on three games from 2013: Arizona vs. San Francisco game one, Arizona vs. New Orleans and Seattle vs. New Orleans and it became clear to me where a big part of our issue lies, not all of our issues certainly but a big part no doubt: Our deep middle safety in those games (Bell) did not have the range to contain those deep middle routes, which are typically seam and post routes (The metrics for us in those games against the seam in particular were pretty brutal) against fast ground covering, 4.3 40 tight ends and Seattle with Earl Thomas does. The two New Orleans games were telling, it was clear as day that Sean Payton and Drew Brees had planned going in to attack the seam against our defense but in the Seattle game it was completely ignored due to the presence of Earl Thomas. Thomas is only 5'10 1/2" but he's extremely fast (4.43 40 at the combine), extremely fluid, he's a ballhawk to the core and his range is unlimited. You can't take the seam and post from him. I saw a metric that stated only 8 seam pass attempts were even thrown all year by Seattle opponents, which is unreal. Eliminating those routes and that area of the field against teams that feature speed tight ends erases a huge percentage of their offenses and changes the dynamic of the games. On the flip side, playing a safety who lacks range in that deep middle spot makes your defense more susceptible to those types of tight ends and plays into the hands of the opposing offense. IMO, that's what we saw in 2013.

To wrap up the novel, a smaller, speedy, rangy safety could in theory make a big impact on the way our defense performs against speedy tight ends. Not saying it couldn't be done by a bigger, more physical brand of guy though (Steve Keim talked at the combine about needing "length" to help us in this area and that may well be true) because it very well could but from what I've seen, I think a player with a little more speed and field range is our best bet.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Went back and looked at some games last year and some old college tape of Tony Jefferon and I really think he could become our in the box safety this year. He might be slightly undersized (height) but most around the league are playing around 5'11. I think he does a really good job in run coverage, could use improvement in coverage but a year under his belt, knowledge of the game, defense and nfl life could play in favor of his expanded role this season. Also like he has the ability to play both positions so we don't have to rush TMathieu back. It will be interesting what the cardinals do come draft day. I don't see pryor or clinton-dix being there at 20 for us so I'm trying to find safeties in rounds 2-4 but I don't see any advantage they would have over TJeff right now. Thoughts?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honestly I love Tony Jefferson and ding know how he wasn't drafted. Dude is solid and we are lucky to have picked him up
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One guy I would like us to use a mid round pick on is Antone Exum. I think he can be a really good FS in the NFL. Lots of experience in zones, is aware and has good anticipation of route combinations. Has played CB, FS and Rover in college. Only big issue is medical questions. I love his skillset though.
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apollo14000


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the presence of Rashad and Jefferson make it so we don't have to pick a safety round 1 just like Watford and Massie make it so we don't have to go RG or RT.

In round 3-4, Dion Bailey would be an awesome pick up. Pretty raw in some areas like deep coverage but he's good in the box and projects to be a good cover safety as well. He's a fluid athlete who has experience lining up in man coverage and has great hands to intercept passes as well. Needs to gain about 10 pounds to handle the physicality of the NFL but the guy played LB for half his college career so he's no stranger to mixing it up in the trenches.

Has a lot of solid tape. May not be a plug and play starter but he's got the potential to be an above average safety.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really like Jefferson. Unless we bring in a guy like Calvin Pryor I think he will be competing for the starting SS spot. He made plays in his short time on the field. But bottomline we need to bring in more depth in the secondary especially at safety.

The more I watch of Antone Exum the more I like. Can mirror receivers as a CB and can cover ground to break up passes as a safety. Big hitter but also is a reliable tackler. Think his best fit is at safety but could also play CB or even be the #4 as a rookie. Provides depth and versatility at the minimum.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

khodder wrote:
One guy I would like us to use a mid round pick on is Antone Exum. I think he can be a really good FS in the NFL. Lots of experience in zones, is aware and has good anticipation of route combinations. Has played CB, FS and Rover in college. Only big issue is medical questions. I love his skillset though.


I concur. Antrel Rolle is a comparison I've seen that I like. Don't think Exum is quite as fluid an athlete but they have similar skillsets.
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