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JRH54824


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lasus83 wrote:
Panthers do not need an upgrade to Blackburn... We have AJ Klein who has been described by coaches as a luke-type player... which is to say that coaches are high on him.

If the panthers take a LB in this draft, it'll be late and only b/c someone is falling and a steal. We have more pressing holes at pretty much every other position including even backup QB, RB and D-Line... not to mention the obvious secondary, WR, OL glaring holes.


RB?? they have Stewart, Williams and Barner. They are also stacked on the d line.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phinsfan93 wrote:
Horrible draft for the Dolphins with the exception of Matthews and James. No DT's when their best two are leaving, no LB depth, no TE. Miami would never make a trade within the division especially if Buffalo is in the position to take the players you've chosen considering those are needs for Miami.


The Dolphins have 36 million in cap space to use in free agency which is BEFORE the draft.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:34 pm    Post subject: hmmm Reply with quote

For Cleveland - I quit reading after you had us trade to get Manziel.

that is all

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 5:09 pm    Post subject: Re: hmmm Reply with quote

Mastercheddaar wrote:
For Cleveland - I quit reading after you had us trade to get Manziel.

that is all

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It isnt what i would do its what i think will happen though
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A good mock..a lot of hard work im sure..but dont mock a run stuffer to Dallas in rounds 1 n 2 over much better players available just because for some reason u were on planet Mars last year during the NFL season...are u kidding me...run stuffers...DALLAS NEEDS PASS RUSHING TALENT...did u not see the Denver game...the Detroit game...and on and on...get some good young pass rushers from either of the DE spots or OLB spots and someone to replace Hatcher and get up field and the entire team Defense gets better.


Peace
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good trade for the Steelers.

Dont really like the picks though....at least not the early ones.

Well...I am a big Hageman fan and would definitely be okay with that, but with the way we handle DLineman, Id kind of prefer not to draft one in the first round.

I may add more later. I just got off work and am tired. Not a bad draft overall...but Id definitely do things differently early on.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Browns trades make absolutely no sense so it is a failure off the bat. The players you have them picking will all be available at those spots or even later so it just does not work.

To make things worse you then have them drafting a guy to play RT when what they need is interior OL help. You have them taking a waste of a pick at RB in Mason then do not address the one hole on defense at ILB.

Just a bad effort all around from a Cleveland perspective.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teddy please
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JRH54824 wrote:
badgers0821 wrote:
Don't really like it for the Packers.

I don't mind Nix, I would love to have him but it looks like we may resign Raji and if we do Nix would be a depth add, and I hate that in the first round. If we resign Raji and draft Nix and Raji plays well next year and we sign him long term then the Nix pick is wasted. If Raji doesn't play well we can let him go and have Nix, so again, don't hate it, but there are better options for us.

Van Noy isn't a bad pick but can he play ILB? If not it is another depth pick, that would be our first two picks as bench/depth players.

We have positions that need to be filled immediately such as S, ILB, DE, TE, depending on what happens in free agency of course. Not taking one of those with either of our first two picks would not be smart.


It would be less smart to reach on one of those positions.


Yea you screwed us in this draft, but oh well, opinions are opinions. I'm sure you know the Packers better than I do.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JRH54824 wrote:
Pruitt3443 wrote:
The Browns trades make absolutely no sense so it is a failure off the bat. The players you have them picking will all be available at those spots or even later so it just does not work.

To make things worse you then have them drafting a guy to play RT when what they need is interior OL help. You have them taking a waste of a pick at RB in Mason then do not address the one hole on defense at ILB.

Just a bad effort all around from a Cleveland perspective.


They don't know that they will be available when they make the trade. There will be several teams like the Raiders, Falcons, Vikings, and Bucs looking to trade up so to just assume Manziel would be available at 4 would be a mistake. Odell Beckham could go in the top 20.
How is Mason a waste of a pick?


I hope Johnny football is gone by 4 and we can grab Teddy if the draft goes like this. We need a spark on offense but more than that a good to great QB. We don't need someone to rejuvenate the fan base bc we already have a great fan base. I think he means it's a wasted pick if we get a RB in FA. We have a speed back in Dion Lewis coming back from injury and have Edwin Baker who looked decent in his time at the end of last year. We just released the heart and soul of defense in D'Qwell Jackson and our other starting ILB is not that good. We have the best LT in the NFL and our RT played well his rookie year and better after the guard play became better as last year went on. Our biggest areas of need now are QB, ILB, WR, OG, RB.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sodakcowboy78 wrote:
A good mock..a lot of hard work im sure..but dont mock a run stuffer to Dallas in rounds 1 n 2 over much better players available just because for some reason u were on planet Mars last year during the NFL season...are u kidding me...run stuffers...DALLAS NEEDS PASS RUSHING TALENT...did u not see the Denver game...the Detroit game...and on and on...get some good young pass rushers from either of the DE spots or OLB spots and someone to replace Hatcher and get up field and the entire team Defense gets better.


Peace


They were without Ware for a lot of those games and they were one of the worst defenses against the run they weren't even competitive against the run most of the time.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This mock needs updating and revision. I cannot believe you slotted Brandon Thomas to the Saints ahead of David Yankey. Yankey will be the first or second guard to go and Thomas will go about seventh!!! And, the Saints do not need a guard or LT, you should know that. If Strief RT does re-sign, they will only draft for depth later if at all. They do need other things more.
Donte Moncrief, WR in the second would work, and there are many other reaches or indications of unfamiliarity with team needs. Redo please and do some research.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the pattern for the Broncos' picks...7 picks...the Broncos select 7 defensive ends.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JRH54824 wrote:
Pruitt3443 wrote:
The Browns trades make absolutely no sense so it is a failure off the bat. The players you have them picking will all be available at those spots or even later so it just does not work.

To make things worse you then have them drafting a guy to play RT when what they need is interior OL help. You have them taking a waste of a pick at RB in Mason then do not address the one hole on defense at ILB.

Just a bad effort all around from a Cleveland perspective.


They don't know that they will be available when they make the trade. There will be several teams like the Raiders, Falcons, Vikings, and Bucs looking to trade up so to just assume Manziel would be available at 4 would be a mistake. Odell Beckham could go in the top 20.
How is Mason a waste of a pick?


By all means let them take Manziel
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 7:39 pm    Post subject: Re: hmmm Reply with quote

JRH54824 wrote:
Mastercheddaar wrote:
For Cleveland - I quit reading after you had us trade to get Manziel.

that is all

Mastercheddaar


It isnt what i would do its what i think will happen though


Why do you think something that stupid would happen. There are better QB's on the board when the Browns would be drafting.
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