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jetfan8178


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:44 pm    Post subject: Latest Mock, some things to ponder till FA starts V2.0 Reply with quote

Let, Walk or cut
WR Santonio Holmes
RB Mike Goodson
OL Ben Ijalana
WR Clyde Gates
S Jaiqwan Jarrett
QB Mark Sanchez
S Dawan Landry
CB Antonio Cromartie

Resigned:
RT Austin Howard
OG Willie Colon
K Nick Folk
CB Ellis Lankster
LB Nick Bellore
DL Legar Douzable
OLB Calvin Pace
FS Ed Reed


Restructure:

OT Dbrickshaw Ferguson
ILB David Harris


Free Agent signings:

QB Josh McCown (Vick takes a guaranteed starting job elsewhere)
WR Sidney Rice (Very low cost potential high reward)
WR Emmanuel Sanders (Solid #2 option)
FS Jairus Byrd (Our BIG SPLASH free agent)
CB Antonio Cromartie (Continuity)
OG Jon Asamoah (Filling a hole to help draft BPA)
RB Knowshon Moreno (change of pace back)
TE Brandon Pettigrew (all around TE option, bad hands lately but potential)



Draft day :

Jets Round 1 Pick 18 (18 ) to Carolina for 1 Pick 28 (28 ), 2 Pick 28 (60)

1 Pick 28: Jordan Matthews, WR
Noone falls to us at 18 and the extra pick is too attractive to pass up. Matthews is an all around quality player

2 Pick 17: Kyle Van Noy, OLB
Pace's replacement, great all around OLB for our system

2 Pick 28: Shayne Skov, ILB
Harris' future replacement. Mean streak and talented tackler

3 Pick 5: Colton Fiedorowicz, TE
Great all around TE with good hands and blocking ability

3 Pick 16: Jared Abbrederis, WR
Great combination of size and speed, as stated by all, best route runner in draft

4 Pick 15: Jerick McKinnon, RB
Special guy, talented and capable. Can become our #2 back

4/comp Michael Sam, DE
Depth pick, quality guy with ties to our all pro DPOY

5 Pick 14: Antone Exum, CB
Quality late round depth. Good size, speed and hands.

6 Pick 19: Aaron Murray, QB
can be a great backup for us and step in if needed. Competes with Simms

7 Pick 18: Pat Oconnell, P
Good competition at P.

7/comp TBD

7/comp TBD

7/comp TBD
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not bad. I don't see the need to bring in Rice, Moreno or Pettigrew though. Plus I think all your FA signing mixed with the draft it will cost too much.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bobby816 wrote:
Not bad. I don't see the need to bring in Rice, Moreno or Pettigrew though. Plus I think all your FA signing mixed with the draft it will cost too much.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty much none of these guys are high upside players. Most of these are "safe" picks. Also, way too much of an FA splurge. Why are we restructuring contracts?

Van Noy is okay, but I'd rather get a higher upside guy for OLB and let him sit behind Pace for a year.

We don't need an ILB this year and Skov makes no sense to groom into the starter. He'd be 25 by the time he started a game and he has a limited upside. His value comes from the fact that he is pro ready, something that we'd be wasting. I wouldn't take a player like him for this team until around the 5th round.

Michael Sam is an awful scheme fit.

Knowshon Moreno can probably get a starter's job somewhere. He doesn't need to come here and compete for the #2 job.

We don't need to add 4 WRs. That is overkill. We need two starters and maybe another development guy.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We on the Jerry Jones business model of restructuring contracts?? Restructuring is almost always a bad idea, and should be avoided at all costs.

FA is a bit unrealistic money wise.

I am ok with most of the draft. I feel like the 2nd is a bit early for Skov, and I think the 4th is way early for Sam, his combine really knocked him down the board and he isn't a scheme fit for us at all.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whose Carolina trading up for? I feel like that's a team that has very little need to move up in the draft.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No one is talking about that Carolina needs WRs. They're talking about possibly cutting Smith and I believe Lafell is a FA. That' leaves then with no WRs.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bobby816 wrote:
No one is talking about that Carolina needs WRs. They're talking about possibly cutting Smith and I believe Lafell is a FA. That' leaves then with no WRs.


I really don't think they cut Steve Smith and this is a heavy run first team. Also, this is the deepest WR draft there is, I don't see them giving up a 2nd to move up for any WR not names Evans or Watkins.


but that's just my feeling on it. love trading down but I don't necessarily agree with that logic.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think this is the best Mock I've seen so far. We fill all the needs and get a lot of solid players. I'm so tired of going after a guy that has huge potential and never pans out. I like all the guys except Sam. I really want the jets to avoid him at all cost. The media would turn this place into a huge circus. Why is Sam not getting playing time? Is it that he is gay? His talent is not worth all the problems that will come along with it i.e Tebow. The only way I can see the jets getting Sam is if he goes undrafted. Even then I would question signing him.

Nice job best situation all around. Remember guys Rex needs to win now or he is gone.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jordan Matthews isnt worth 18.

If we dont go Beckham/Ebron at 18 I will freak. If they are both gone for some reason, Mike Evans or Brandin Cooks are both smart picks. Matthews is a solid receiver but hes an early 2 at best IMO.

I like the rest of the draft but Michael Sam is awful guys. Put on the tape, hats off for everything he came out about but hes not a great NFL football player. To stiff and a situational pass rusher at best.. AT BEST.

I think FA is probably alittle overspent and probably alittle unrealistic because of that but not bad.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL @ thinking Moreno would be signed to be a change of pace back.

He had over 1,000 yards and 10 TDs, with 60 catches and over 500 yards receiving. Hes probably going to be signed to start somewhere.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carolina trades up for OT to get ahead of Miami who will also need an OT.

We trade down so as to not reach for a WR since we already seemingly filled the holes thru FA, then draft the BPA at 28 who is Matthews.

Tell me how this FA is too expensive?

QB Josh McCown, 840k last year... maybe 1 mill on a contract?
WR Sidney Rice 9.7mill last year...Maybe a 3-5 mill prove it on the high side?
WR Emmanuel Sanders 2.5 mill... maybe 2-3.5 mill w us
FS Jairus Byrd 6.9 last year... 7-9 mill with us
CB Antonio Cromartie 6.5mill last year, 4-7mill due to off year
OG Jon Asamoah 1.5mill in contract year... even double at 3 mill
RB Knowshon Moreno 3.2mill last season, most teams run multi back schemes and everyone knows his success wasnt all talent and mostly scheme. even if he makes the same 3.2mill...
TE Brandon Pettigrew 3.4mill last year, will make less... 2mill?

Thats 29 mill in spending taking it at average for 2 starting recievers, a starting lineman and the #1 free agent this offseason. With over 50 mill in cap room... We can argue over what these guys will make but even if im + or - 1-2 mill on a couple of cap hits for 2014 it still doesn't kill us.

Restructuring happens every year to move money around. The 2 top players suggested for a restructure this offseason are Brick and Harris. BBrick is due for 12mill after an off year. You potentially move money from the back of his contract into 2014 since you have all the room this offseason. Harris made 13 last year and will make 7 this year. Maybe I should have said "Extend". Add a year, guarantee it and groom a replacement going into 2015
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jetfan8178 wrote:
Carolina trades up for OT to get ahead of Miami who will also need an OT.

We trade down so as to not reach for a WR since we already seemingly filled the holes thru FA, then draft the BPA at 28 who is Matthews.

Tell me how this FA is too expensive?

QB Josh McCown, 840k last year... maybe 1 mill on a contract?
WR Sidney Rice 9.7mill last year...Maybe a 3-5 mill prove it on the high side?
WR Emmanuel Sanders 2.5 mill... maybe 2-3.5 mill w us
FS Jairus Byrd 6.9 last year... 7-9 mill with us
CB Antonio Cromartie 6.5mill last year, 4-7mill due to off year
OG Jon Asamoah 1.5mill in contract year... even double at 3 mill
RB Knowshon Moreno 3.2mill last season, lost his job, maybe 2-3 mill
TE Brandon Pettigrew 3.4mill last year, will make less... 2mill?

Thats 29 mill in spending taking it at average for 2 starting recievers, a starting lineman and the #1 free agent this offseason. With over 50 mill in cap room... We can argue over what these guys will make but even if im + or - 1-2 mill on a couple of cap hits for 2014 it still doesn't kill us.



McCown will easily get around 3 million at the least.

Moreno is going to get a 4-5 million dollar deal to be a starter. Moreno had his best year last year as a running back.

Pettigrew wont make less hes around the 3-4 range.

Byrd is going to get 9 million

Sanders will probably get a 4-5 million dollar deal.

Sidney Rice will probably be a 2-3 mill

Asamoah will get a solid pay day. Probably 4-5 million.

Cromartie your right probably 5 million


Thats 34 million at the least with the chance of being 39 million.

We will probably have 46-47 million in cap room at the most

All I said was that it was alittle to over expensive. I didnt say you are way off. Its definetly a little to much though.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All good, It just depends on the approach. My thought is that Moreno's chances are shruck by the fact that so many teams no longer dedicate that much money to a #1 back. Its become a league of tandems.

I agree I can be off on him.

It all really depends on the front office approach. Will they shoot for filling holes and drafting BPA? Thats what I went for.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jetfan8178 wrote:
All good, It just depends on the approach. My thought is that Moreno's chances are shruck by the fact that so many teams no longer dedicate that much money to a #1 back. Its become a league of tandems.

I agree I can be off on him.

It all really depends on the front office approach. Will they shoot for filling holes and drafting BPA? Thats what I went for.


I got you. For all I know, this whole entire plan and draft could be grade A in a few years if it turned out.

I am just thinking Idzik and what he may try and do. I know he will probably startle us all by doing something we least expect. I just dont seem him overpaying for anyone. We all want atleast one big named guy but for some reason I doubt we get one. Idzik is a quality over quantity guy.
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