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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I see his agent trying to go for a 6 year 60M contract with 30-40 M guarenteed within the first 2-3 years (basically causing his cap number to be 20M for the team that signs him).

Basically an offer that, if we match, we are in cap purgatory.


Given that we have among the top amounts in cap space, what team could possibly do that? Oakland?


Oakland and possibly Tampa (with that being the only FA that Tampa signs).


I can't imagine a team breaking their cap for Alex Mack. Would surely make our front office look bad though.

Especially if ward also leaves and we dont get Byrd


It would be a short term PR hit. If we win some games no one will care in the long run.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It would be a short term PR hit. If we win some games no one will care in the long run.


It would be hard for me to believe we will be better without Ward, Byrd and Mack

Losing Mack for nothing isn't just bad in terms of adding talent to the team, its bad in terms of playing the system. Had he walked and we let him go, we'd at least get compensatory consideration. If we lose him to a ridiculous contract that we dont match we get nothing- unless I am mistaken
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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BooyaCS wrote:
It would be a short term PR hit. If we win some games no one will care in the long run.


It would be hard for me to believe we will be better without Ward, Byrd and Mack

Losing Mack for nothing isn't just bad in terms of adding talent to the team, its bad in terms of playing the system. Had he walked and we let him go, we'd at least get compensatory consideration. If we lose him to a ridiculous contract that we dont match we get nothing- unless I am mistaken


Should have franchised him. If he doesn't want to be here then screw him.

Really hoping he didn't Boozer us.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ugh..talk of Baltimore making play for Mack
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ugh..talk of Baltimore making play for Mack


Its ok, I would like to see Taylor eat him up than! Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Estonianzulu wrote:
BooyaCS wrote:
It would be a short term PR hit. If we win some games no one will care in the long run.


It would be hard for me to believe we will be better without Ward, Byrd and Mack

Losing Mack for nothing isn't just bad in terms of adding talent to the team, its bad in terms of playing the system. Had he walked and we let him go, we'd at least get compensatory consideration. If we lose him to a ridiculous contract that we dont match we get nothing- unless I am mistaken


Compensatory picks mean you lost a player and didn't sign a player of the same quality back.

Also the poison pill rules have to apply to every team.

So a contract that is completely guarenteed but the player is waived after year 2 if you don't make the playoffs is completely feasable.

Or a contract that states if you lose more than 6 games in a season then the entire contract is guaranteed.

Or if you don't make the playoffs in the first 2 season then the entire contract is guarenteed are all within the realm of possibility

Each of them destroys your cap and option 1 and 3 mean you are on the hook for the entire contract if you don't make the playoffs and the player, in option 1, is released on a fully guarenteed contract.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Compensatory picks mean you lost a player and didn't sign a player of the same quality back.


I know. But the question is does that apply to players tagged but lost (like RFA's for example)

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Each of them destroys your cap and option 1 and 3 mean you are on the hook for the entire contract if you don't make the playoffs and the player, in option 1, is released on a fully guarenteed contract.


Sure, but what team is going to risk doing that to themselves? In the old case, where a pill could be designed specifically to ruin the team with the player, now its an equal opportunity wrecking ball. Do you think there is a GM out there willing to risk eating 60M guaranteed money because they miss the playoffs by a game? For a Center no less?
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