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Browns1987


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Mack wants to leave so bad, then screw him. I hope he leaves and not have someone that hates playing for this team like he apparently does.

This is not just his agent, he has done some interviews showing that he is willing to go to a new team.

If he stays, good. If he leaves, good too because of that attitude.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Browns1987 wrote:
If Mack wants to leave so bad, then screw him. I hope he leaves and not have someone that hates playing for this team like he apparently does.

This is not just his agent, he has done some interviews showing that he is willing to go to a new team.

If he stays, good. If he leaves, good too because of that attitude.


Those are completely different things. The Mack hate has to stop, at least while he is still here.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Browns FO made their choice. They picked Mack over Ward. Losing Mack would be an absolute embarrassment at this point. Mack's agent is likely just posturing...at least I hope. Nothing with the Browns surprises me anymore Sad
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Browns FO made their choice. They picked Mack over Ward. Losing Mack would be an absolute embarrassment at this point. Mack's agent is likely just posturing...at least I hope. Nothing with the Browns surprises me anymore Sad


I think this is absolutely the case. I'm feeling pretty confident that Mack will be back for this very reason.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know if this was discussed or not but............

What if Mack accepts an offer from another team, and the Browns match. If Mack really doesnt want the long term deal from Cleveland, does he have the option to say screw that, and just play out the year on the franchise tag?

Or is he a prisoner for however many years he signed for with the other team.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

duke2056 wrote:
I don't know if this was discussed or not but............

What if Mack accepts an offer from another team, and the Browns match. If Mack really doesnt want the long term deal from Cleveland, does he have the option to say screw that, and just play out the year on the franchise tag?

Or is he a prisoner for however many years he signed for with the other team.


if he signs or accepts a contract the browns have the right to match that contract and he will have to take that contract I believe. If Mack accepts no contracts during this period, he plays under a 1 year transition tag which would be like $10m...I think
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

buno67 wrote:
duke2056 wrote:
I don't know if this was discussed or not but............

What if Mack accepts an offer from another team, and the Browns match. If Mack really doesnt want the long term deal from Cleveland, does he have the option to say screw that, and just play out the year on the franchise tag?

Or is he a prisoner for however many years he signed for with the other team.


if he signs or accepts a contract the browns have the right to match that contract and he will have to take that contract I believe. If Mack accepts no contracts during this period, he plays under a 1 year transition tag which would be like $10m...I think


Well, I would assume if he was offered a contract by another team, he would ask the Browns if they are going to match it before signing.

It would make a lot of sense for the player to have the option to take the contract if the Browns match, or to switch it and go back to the 1-year tag.

I kinda don't even see teams wasting their time on making offers to Mack, and he plays his 1 year here. Even if they do, I don't see Mack agreeing to a long term offer unless it is a HUGE offer, so that if he does get stuck here it will at least be a big contract.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

duke2056 wrote:
buno67 wrote:
duke2056 wrote:
I don't know if this was discussed or not but............

What if Mack accepts an offer from another team, and the Browns match. If Mack really doesnt want the long term deal from Cleveland, does he have the option to say screw that, and just play out the year on the franchise tag?

Or is he a prisoner for however many years he signed for with the other team.


if he signs or accepts a contract the browns have the right to match that contract and he will have to take that contract I believe. If Mack accepts no contracts during this period, he plays under a 1 year transition tag which would be like $10m...I think


Well, I would assume if he was offered a contract by another team, he would ask the Browns if they are going to match it before signing.

It would make a lot of sense for the player to have the option to take the contract if the Browns match, or to switch it and go back to the 1-year tag.

I kinda don't even see teams wasting their time on making offers to Mack, and he plays his 1 year here. Even if they do, I don't see Mack agreeing to a long term offer unless it is a HUGE offer, so that if he does get stuck here it will at least be a big contract.


I see his agent trying to go for a 6 year 60M contract with 30-40 M guarenteed within the first 2-3 years (basically causing his cap number to be 20M for the team that signs him).

Basically an offer that, if we match, we are in cap purgatory.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BooyaCS wrote:
duke2056 wrote:
buno67 wrote:
duke2056 wrote:
I don't know if this was discussed or not but............

What if Mack accepts an offer from another team, and the Browns match. If Mack really doesnt want the long term deal from Cleveland, does he have the option to say screw that, and just play out the year on the franchise tag?

Or is he a prisoner for however many years he signed for with the other team.


if he signs or accepts a contract the browns have the right to match that contract and he will have to take that contract I believe. If Mack accepts no contracts during this period, he plays under a 1 year transition tag which would be like $10m...I think


Well, I would assume if he was offered a contract by another team, he would ask the Browns if they are going to match it before signing.

It would make a lot of sense for the player to have the option to take the contract if the Browns match, or to switch it and go back to the 1-year tag.

I kinda don't even see teams wasting their time on making offers to Mack, and he plays his 1 year here. Even if they do, I don't see Mack agreeing to a long term offer unless it is a HUGE offer, so that if he does get stuck here it will at least be a big contract.


I see his agent trying to go for a 6 year 60M contract with 30-40 M guarenteed within the first 2-3 years (basically causing his cap number to be 20M for the team that signs him).

Basically an offer that, if we match, we are in cap purgatory.


I don't think there is even a remote chance he gets offered 10mil a year for 6 years. Teams would be absolutely nuts to offer a center 10 mil a year. Look at the rumors surrounding this years LT's in FA. Most are getting offered 8-9 mil a year and play a more important position. If Mack gets offered north of 8 mil a year annually id be surprised.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BooyaCS wrote:

I see his agent trying to go for a 6 year 60M contract with 30-40 M guarenteed within the first 2-3 years (basically causing his cap number to be 20M for the team that signs him).

Basically an offer that, if we match, we are in cap purgatory.


Given that we have among the top amounts in cap space, what team could possibly do that? Oakland?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Estonianzulu wrote:
BooyaCS wrote:

I see his agent trying to go for a 6 year 60M contract with 30-40 M guarenteed within the first 2-3 years (basically causing his cap number to be 20M for the team that signs him).

Basically an offer that, if we match, we are in cap purgatory.


Given that we have among the top amounts in cap space, what team could possibly do that? Oakland?


Oakland and possibly Tampa (with that being the only FA that Tampa signs).
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:43 am    Post subject: hmmm Reply with quote

I know one thing, if Mack signs the tag then we better draft a center in the mid rounds.

that is all

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:46 am    Post subject: Re: hmmm Reply with quote

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I know one thing, if Mack signs the tag then we better draft a center in the mid rounds.

that is all

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Swanson @ #2...he can play RG in the meantime.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thomas5737 wrote:
Browns1987 wrote:
If Mack wants to leave so bad, then screw him. I hope he leaves and not have someone that hates playing for this team like he apparently does.

This is not just his agent, he has done some interviews showing that he is willing to go to a new team.

If he stays, good. If he leaves, good too because of that attitude.


Those are completely different things. The Mack hate has to stop, at least while he is still here.


He has done more than show he is willing...the last interview they did an article about him on Cleveland.com, everything he said about the Browns he said in the past tense - like he was already gone. Not your normal interview where you talk about how you are here and might still be in the future. That was after the transition tag.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BooyaCS wrote:
Estonianzulu wrote:
BooyaCS wrote:

I see his agent trying to go for a 6 year 60M contract with 30-40 M guarenteed within the first 2-3 years (basically causing his cap number to be 20M for the team that signs him).

Basically an offer that, if we match, we are in cap purgatory.


Given that we have among the top amounts in cap space, what team could possibly do that? Oakland?


Oakland and possibly Tampa (with that being the only FA that Tampa signs).


I can't imagine a team breaking their cap for Alex Mack. Would surely make our front office look bad though.

Especially if ward also leaves and we dont get Byrd
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