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| oldman9er wrote: | | Quote: | Ryan Shazier wasn't able to run the 40-yard dash at the Combine because of a hamstring issue, and he tweaked his hamstring again Friday at Ohio State's pro day. But he tweaked it while running the 40, and with representatives from 29 NFL teams watching, he was timed at an unofficial 4.36 seconds -- a startling time for a LB. Still, let's stress this was an unofficial time, and while Shazier unquestionably is the fastest LB in the draft, the 4.36 time, frankly, strains credulity.
"He's a true 4-3 outside linebacker," Mayock said |
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000331632/article/ohio-state-lb-ryan-shazier-reinjures-hamstring-at-pro-day |
Shazier's a stud. Not sure what his best position would be in the NFL. Maybe Mayock's right. I think he could play a lot like Bowman does for us if someone moved into that kind of spot. Anyway, I think he'll be one of the better guys coming out of this class.
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| Quote: | Northern Illinois S Jimmie Ward clocked forty times of 4.46 and 4.51 at the Huskies' Pro Day.
Ward did not participate at the Combine due to a foot injury, which has since apparently healed. Despite standing just 5-foot-10 3/4 and 193 pounds, Ward is a big hitter with plenty of straight-line speed. He's got a chance to be a late first-round pick. Ward is a favorite of Rotoworld draft guru Josh Norris. |
Source: Tony Pauline on Twitter
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| oldman9er wrote: | | Chrissooner49er wrote: | I'm 6' and have 33" arms! I would let the 9ers pick me...really.  |
Not supposed to start measuring from neck to fingertip, cheater!  |
I don't have a measuring tape (what kind of a man am I, really?!), but I doubt my arms are even 28". If Baalke saw me, he'd probably scoff at me.
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| Quote: | Brad Biggs @BradBiggs 4h
NIU S Jimmie Ward with 38 inch vertical and 10-5 broad jump at pro day I am told. Players have just started running. |
really good #s...
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| oldman9er wrote: | | big9erfan wrote: | | oldman9er wrote: | | Quote: | Ryan Shazier wasn't able to run the 40-yard dash at the Combine because of a hamstring issue, and he tweaked his hamstring again Friday at Ohio State's pro day. But he tweaked it while running the 40, and with representatives from 29 NFL teams watching, he was timed at an unofficial 4.36 seconds -- a startling time for a LB. Still, let's stress this was an unofficial time, and while Shazier unquestionably is the fastest LB in the draft, the 4.36 time, frankly, strains credulity.
"He's a true 4-3 outside linebacker," Mayock said |
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000331632/article/ohio-state-lb-ryan-shazier-reinjures-hamstring-at-pro-day |
Shazier's a stud. Not sure what his best position would be in the NFL. Maybe Mayock's right. I think he could play a lot like Bowman does for us if someone moved into that kind of spot. Anyway, I think he'll be one of the better guys coming out of this class. |
I really don't see it. Shazier's a guy that must run around blockers... and he's going to be selected very early. He's athletically impressive, but I wasn't blown away by anything aside from the speed. I just don't see us targeting an early round ILB... not with Moody, Wilhoite, and even Skuta able to handle a role there. |
Oh gosh, no, not us. I do think he'll be a great addition for someone though.
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| oldman9er wrote: | | big9erfan wrote: | | oldman9er wrote: | | Quote: | Ryan Shazier wasn't able to run the 40-yard dash at the Combine because of a hamstring issue, and he tweaked his hamstring again Friday at Ohio State's pro day. But he tweaked it while running the 40, and with representatives from 29 NFL teams watching, he was timed at an unofficial 4.36 seconds -- a startling time for a LB. Still, let's stress this was an unofficial time, and while Shazier unquestionably is the fastest LB in the draft, the 4.36 time, frankly, strains credulity.
"He's a true 4-3 outside linebacker," Mayock said |
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000331632/article/ohio-state-lb-ryan-shazier-reinjures-hamstring-at-pro-day |
Shazier's a stud. Not sure what his best position would be in the NFL. Maybe Mayock's right. I think he could play a lot like Bowman does for us if someone moved into that kind of spot. Anyway, I think he'll be one of the better guys coming out of this class. |
I really don't see it. Shazier's a guy that must run around blockers... and he's going to be selected very early. He's athletically impressive, but I wasn't blown away by anything aside from the speed. I just don't see us targeting an early round ILB... not with Moody, Wilhoite, and even Skuta able to handle a role there. |
Pretty much this. I watched a lot of OSU this year as they are my college team, and Shazier is a missile; nobody doubts that. But he's not particularly adept at shedding blocks or taking the best angle. Incredible acceleration and speed, but he can get mauled in the blocking game. He's not a great all around talent. I've seem comparisons to David, and I think that's a fair comparison, though I don't know if his ceiling is quite as high.
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| oldman9er wrote: | and a lil more....
| Quote: | Brad Biggs @BradBiggs 4h
NIU S Jimmie Ward with 38 inch vertical and 10-5 broad jump at pro day I am told. Players have just started running. |
really good #s... |
Basically assures him going in the top 25. I see KC as an potential landing spot for him.
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| Forge wrote: | | oldman9er wrote: | | big9erfan wrote: | | oldman9er wrote: | | Quote: | Ryan Shazier wasn't able to run the 40-yard dash at the Combine because of a hamstring issue, and he tweaked his hamstring again Friday at Ohio State's pro day. But he tweaked it while running the 40, and with representatives from 29 NFL teams watching, he was timed at an unofficial 4.36 seconds -- a startling time for a LB. Still, let's stress this was an unofficial time, and while Shazier unquestionably is the fastest LB in the draft, the 4.36 time, frankly, strains credulity.
"He's a true 4-3 outside linebacker," Mayock said |
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000331632/article/ohio-state-lb-ryan-shazier-reinjures-hamstring-at-pro-day |
Shazier's a stud. Not sure what his best position would be in the NFL. Maybe Mayock's right. I think he could play a lot like Bowman does for us if someone moved into that kind of spot. Anyway, I think he'll be one of the better guys coming out of this class. |
I really don't see it. Shazier's a guy that must run around blockers... and he's going to be selected very early. He's athletically impressive, but I wasn't blown away by anything aside from the speed. I just don't see us targeting an early round ILB... not with Moody, Wilhoite, and even Skuta able to handle a role there. |
Pretty much this. I watched a lot of OSU this year as they are my college team, and Shazier is a missile; nobody doubts that. But he's not particularly adept at shedding blocks or taking the best angle. Incredible acceleration and speed, but he can get mauled in the blocking game. He's not a great all around talent. I've seem comparisons to David, and I think that's a fair comparison, though I don't know if his ceiling is quite as high. |
I've watched him play a lot too, and I know what you're saying. But he was making plays all over the field every game I watched. ESPN shows him with over 140 total tackles on the season. No matter what his apparent strengths and weaknesses that's a boatload of production.
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| oldman9er wrote: | | Quote: | CB / Chris Davis, 5-9, 200 pounds / AUBURN
Chris Davis' stock hasn't changed much since the end of the season, but Mike Mayock believes Davis could now be an early-round pick following his performance Tuesday. Davis was unable to perform at the NFL Combine due to a hamstring injury, but recorded the best vertical jump at 40 1/2 inches Tuesday, and did well in the broad jump (10 feet, 4 inches) and had the third-fastest 40-yard dash time at 4.51 seconds. Game film of Davis is not hard to find, but it's his versatility as a return man on special teams and his consistent play near the sideline that will catch eyes. His strong performance Tuesday garnered a few looks, including a chat with the Detroit Lions. A fourth, fifth or sixth round prediction suddenly includes a look at the third round. |
http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/index.ssf/2014/03/who_improved_their_nfl_draft_s.html
I have him as a 4th rd pick that could go in the 3rd. Reminds me some of Tarell Brown. He does have some issues as a run defender and switching off to the right man when multiple routes come his way... but there's a lot to work with. I think he can play outside, but can also be strong as a NCB. |
See, I feel like someone like Davis would be a solid get in the middle rounds for double dipping on the corner position. Say you get someone like Fuller in round 1. He plays off most of his snaps in college, is bigger, taller, and will be an outside guy at the NFL level and will be very, very unlikely to be a very good slot corner. Than you double dip with a guy like Davis; a bit raw as you said. Definite field awareness issues and his footwork needs to be refined, but you pick him with the intention of using him in the return game for sure right off the bat, and then working with him on defense for the specific purpose of being a slot corner, which we have a gaping weakness with typically. Even if he doesn't pan out defensively, at least you're getting something in the return game, and given enough time (I have questions regarding his coachability), maybe you get that very good slot corner.
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