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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Biggest regret for this offseason so far is us not getting in on FS Chris Clemons. For the money he got and our need at that position, I sure wish we would have pursued that. The draft doesn't offer much as far as a rangy FS. I'm not sure we are even looking at any. None have had private workouts or top 30 visits as far as I know.


ya, im really starting to believe the FO is content on keeping McLeod as the starter


Now that is scary and I can't really believe that. What other position is weaker? We have 4 picks in top 3 rounds where you are expected to draft productive rookies. CB, FS, OLINE are easily the top 3 needs and I'm sure we will address them early.
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Picked4td wrote:
FRO wrote:
Biggest regret for this offseason so far is us not getting in on FS Chris Clemons. For the money he got and our need at that position, I sure wish we would have pursued that. The draft doesn't offer much as far as a rangy FS. I'm not sure we are even looking at any. None have had private workouts or top 30 visits as far as I know.


ya, im really starting to believe the FO is content on keeping McLeod as the starter


Now that is scary and I can't really believe that. What other position is weaker? We have 4 picks in top 3 rounds where you are expected to draft productive rookies. CB, FS, OLINE are easily the top 3 needs and I'm sure we will address them early.


oh I'm sure drafting FS in the first 3 rounds is a given, but I'm starting to believe they dont view it as a top priority. By using a 1st round pick on a player, you are usually all but guaranteeing them a starting job, and same for paying a FA a good chunk of money. So with the lack of interest in FS during free agency, and a low interest in safeties thus far before the draft, I wouldnt be surprised if they feel McLeod is a capable starter and feel no pressure in spending money or a high pick on someone they feel may end up not even starting.

with all that said, I do still seem them drafting a FS in the 1st 3 rounds, I guess don't think a FS in the 1st is as likely as it once seemed (unless maybe they trade down from 13 and can get 1 of the top safeties later in the 1st)
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Picked4td wrote:
Flatlyner wrote:
Picked4td wrote:
FRO wrote:
Biggest regret for this offseason so far is us not getting in on FS Chris Clemons. For the money he got and our need at that position, I sure wish we would have pursued that. The draft doesn't offer much as far as a rangy FS. I'm not sure we are even looking at any. None have had private workouts or top 30 visits as far as I know.


ya, im really starting to believe the FO is content on keeping McLeod as the starter


Now that is scary and I can't really believe that. What other position is weaker? We have 4 picks in top 3 rounds where you are expected to draft productive rookies. CB, FS, OLINE are easily the top 3 needs and I'm sure we will address them early.


oh I'm sure drafting FS in the first 3 rounds is a given, but I'm starting to believe they dont view it as a top priority. By using a 1st round pick on a player, you are usually all but guaranteeing them a starting job, and same for paying a FA a good chunk of money. So with the lack of interest in FS during free agency, and a low interest in safeties thus far before the draft, I wouldnt be surprised if they feel McLeod is a capable starter and feel no pressure in spending money or a high pick on someone they feel may end up not even starting.

with all that said, I do still seem them drafting a FS in the 1st 3 rounds, I guess don't think a FS in the 1st is as likely as it once seemed (unless maybe they trade down from 13 and can get 1 of the top safeties later in the 1st)


Tell that to Brian Quick. (I know, he was technically a 2nd rounder)
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Picked4td wrote:
Flatlyner wrote:
Picked4td wrote:
FRO wrote:
Biggest regret for this offseason so far is us not getting in on FS Chris Clemons. For the money he got and our need at that position, I sure wish we would have pursued that. The draft doesn't offer much as far as a rangy FS. I'm not sure we are even looking at any. None have had private workouts or top 30 visits as far as I know.


ya, im really starting to believe the FO is content on keeping McLeod as the starter


Now that is scary and I can't really believe that. What other position is weaker? We have 4 picks in top 3 rounds where you are expected to draft productive rookies. CB, FS, OLINE are easily the top 3 needs and I'm sure we will address them early.


oh I'm sure drafting FS in the first 3 rounds is a given, but I'm starting to believe they dont view it as a top priority. By using a 1st round pick on a player, you are usually all but guaranteeing them a starting job, and same for paying a FA a good chunk of money. So with the lack of interest in FS during free agency, and a low interest in safeties thus far before the draft, I wouldnt be surprised if they feel McLeod is a capable starter and feel no pressure in spending money or a high pick on someone they feel may end up not even starting.

with all that said, I do still seem them drafting a FS in the 1st 3 rounds, I guess don't think a FS in the 1st is as likely as it once seemed (unless maybe they trade down from 13 and can get 1 of the top safeties later in the 1st)


Tell that to Brian Quick. (I know, he was technically a 2nd rounder)


I don't think he ever got that memo
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The J.R.S. wrote:
Picked4td wrote:
Flatlyner wrote:
Picked4td wrote:
FRO wrote:
Biggest regret for this offseason so far is us not getting in on FS Chris Clemons. For the money he got and our need at that position, I sure wish we would have pursued that. The draft doesn't offer much as far as a rangy FS. I'm not sure we are even looking at any. None have had private workouts or top 30 visits as far as I know.


ya, im really starting to believe the FO is content on keeping McLeod as the starter


Now that is scary and I can't really believe that. What other position is weaker? We have 4 picks in top 3 rounds where you are expected to draft productive rookies. CB, FS, OLINE are easily the top 3 needs and I'm sure we will address them early.


oh I'm sure drafting FS in the first 3 rounds is a given, but I'm starting to believe they dont view it as a top priority. By using a 1st round pick on a player, you are usually all but guaranteeing them a starting job, and same for paying a FA a good chunk of money. So with the lack of interest in FS during free agency, and a low interest in safeties thus far before the draft, I wouldnt be surprised if they feel McLeod is a capable starter and feel no pressure in spending money or a high pick on someone they feel may end up not even starting.

with all that said, I do still seem them drafting a FS in the 1st 3 rounds, I guess don't think a FS in the 1st is as likely as it once seemed (unless maybe they trade down from 13 and can get 1 of the top safeties later in the 1st)


Tell that to Brian Quick. (I know, he was technically a 2nd rounder)


It's a 3-year plan with Quick. Snead and Fisher have said that from the very beginning. I don't understand why that's so hard for you to understand. He's making progress, it may not be as fast as YOU want, but I think we need to trust the coaches.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

holt_bruce81 wrote:
The J.R.S. wrote:
Picked4td wrote:
Flatlyner wrote:
Picked4td wrote:
FRO wrote:
Biggest regret for this offseason so far is us not getting in on FS Chris Clemons. For the money he got and our need at that position, I sure wish we would have pursued that. The draft doesn't offer much as far as a rangy FS. I'm not sure we are even looking at any. None have had private workouts or top 30 visits as far as I know.


ya, im really starting to believe the FO is content on keeping McLeod as the starter


Now that is scary and I can't really believe that. What other position is weaker? We have 4 picks in top 3 rounds where you are expected to draft productive rookies. CB, FS, OLINE are easily the top 3 needs and I'm sure we will address them early.


oh I'm sure drafting FS in the first 3 rounds is a given, but I'm starting to believe they dont view it as a top priority. By using a 1st round pick on a player, you are usually all but guaranteeing them a starting job, and same for paying a FA a good chunk of money. So with the lack of interest in FS during free agency, and a low interest in safeties thus far before the draft, I wouldnt be surprised if they feel McLeod is a capable starter and feel no pressure in spending money or a high pick on someone they feel may end up not even starting.

with all that said, I do still seem them drafting a FS in the 1st 3 rounds, I guess don't think a FS in the 1st is as likely as it once seemed (unless maybe they trade down from 13 and can get 1 of the top safeties later in the 1st)


Tell that to Brian Quick. (I know, he was technically a 2nd rounder)


It's a 3-year plan with Quick. Snead and Fisher have said that from the very beginning. I don't understand why that's so hard for you to understand. He's making progress, it may not be as fast as YOU want, but I think we need to trust the coaches.


Its three failed three year plans that end up getting head coaches and gms fired. just saying..
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holt_bruce81 wrote:
The J.R.S. wrote:
Picked4td wrote:
Flatlyner wrote:
Picked4td wrote:
FRO wrote:
Biggest regret for this offseason so far is us not getting in on FS Chris Clemons. For the money he got and our need at that position, I sure wish we would have pursued that. The draft doesn't offer much as far as a rangy FS. I'm not sure we are even looking at any. None have had private workouts or top 30 visits as far as I know.


ya, im really starting to believe the FO is content on keeping McLeod as the starter


Now that is scary and I can't really believe that. What other position is weaker? We have 4 picks in top 3 rounds where you are expected to draft productive rookies. CB, FS, OLINE are easily the top 3 needs and I'm sure we will address them early.


oh I'm sure drafting FS in the first 3 rounds is a given, but I'm starting to believe they dont view it as a top priority. By using a 1st round pick on a player, you are usually all but guaranteeing them a starting job, and same for paying a FA a good chunk of money. So with the lack of interest in FS during free agency, and a low interest in safeties thus far before the draft, I wouldnt be surprised if they feel McLeod is a capable starter and feel no pressure in spending money or a high pick on someone they feel may end up not even starting.

with all that said, I do still seem them drafting a FS in the 1st 3 rounds, I guess don't think a FS in the 1st is as likely as it once seemed (unless maybe they trade down from 13 and can get 1 of the top safeties later in the 1st)


Tell that to Brian Quick. (I know, he was technically a 2nd rounder)


It's a 3-year plan with Quick. Snead and Fisher have said that from the very beginning. I don't understand why that's so hard for you to understand. He's making progress, it may not be as fast as YOU want, but I think we need to trust the coaches.


He may be a 3 year plan but I don't think he is the only plan anymore. Why sign Britt and possibly draft a WR again this year? Wish in one hand...
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@PFF: Tavon Austin gained 209 yards on 57 routes run when lined up wide (3.67 yards/route run). Gained 207 yards on 237 routes in slot (0.87 YPRR)

@PFF: Tavon Austin caught nine screen passes for only 15 yards. Gained 32% of his yards on crossing routes, highest % in league


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@PFF: Tavon Austin gained 209 yards on 57 routes run when lined up wide (3.67 yards/route run). Gained 207 yards on 237 routes in slot (0.87 YPRR)

@PFF: Tavon Austin caught nine screen passes for only 15 yards. Gained 32% of his yards on crossing routes, highest % in league


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Watch his game tape again from last year and that all makes sense. It isn't bad it ins't great. The guy showed he can be a nightmare.
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@PFF: Tavon Austin gained 209 yards on 57 routes run when lined up wide (3.67 yards/route run). Gained 207 yards on 237 routes in slot (0.87 YPRR)

@PFF: Tavon Austin caught nine screen passes for only 15 yards. Gained 32% of his yards on crossing routes, highest % in league


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Watch his game tape again from last year and that all makes sense. It isn't bad it ins't great. The guy showed he can be a nightmare.


he could still be utilized more. I think simple bubble screens and out of the backfield would be ways to gain an easy 5-10 yards. But it does show that he can definitely have success outside as well.
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Schotty definitely needs to get more creative using Tavon and get away from the jet sweeps and bubble screens...

He's a chess piece, a guy that can line-up out of the backfield, in the slot and on the outside and be effective...

We need to make him the nightmare match-up he can be on a defense...
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Seahawks locked up their best piece in the secondary...

Earl Thomas gets 4 yrs/ 40 million and 27 million in guaranteed...
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holt_bruce81 wrote:
The J.R.S. wrote:
Picked4td wrote:
Flatlyner wrote:
Picked4td wrote:
FRO wrote:
Biggest regret for this offseason so far is us not getting in on FS Chris Clemons. For the money he got and our need at that position, I sure wish we would have pursued that. The draft doesn't offer much as far as a rangy FS. I'm not sure we are even looking at any. None have had private workouts or top 30 visits as far as I know.


ya, im really starting to believe the FO is content on keeping McLeod as the starter


Now that is scary and I can't really believe that. What other position is weaker? We have 4 picks in top 3 rounds where you are expected to draft productive rookies. CB, FS, OLINE are easily the top 3 needs and I'm sure we will address them early.


oh I'm sure drafting FS in the first 3 rounds is a given, but I'm starting to believe they dont view it as a top priority. By using a 1st round pick on a player, you are usually all but guaranteeing them a starting job, and same for paying a FA a good chunk of money. So with the lack of interest in FS during free agency, and a low interest in safeties thus far before the draft, I wouldnt be surprised if they feel McLeod is a capable starter and feel no pressure in spending money or a high pick on someone they feel may end up not even starting.

with all that said, I do still seem them drafting a FS in the 1st 3 rounds, I guess don't think a FS in the 1st is as likely as it once seemed (unless maybe they trade down from 13 and can get 1 of the top safeties later in the 1st)


Tell that to Brian Quick. (I know, he was technically a 2nd rounder)


It's a 3-year plan with Quick. Snead and Fisher have said that from the very beginning. I don't understand why that's so hard for you to understand. He's making progress, it may not be as fast as YOU want, but I think we need to trust the coaches.


I'm not sure why you took my comment the way the you did. I was pointing out that not all first round (or high) draft picks are expected to contribute immediately.

But, Fisher and Snead never said that Quick would offer next to zero production and lose snaps to a rookie late in his second year. Was that part of the 3 year plan?
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The J.R.S. wrote:
holt_bruce81 wrote:
The J.R.S. wrote:
Picked4td wrote:
Flatlyner wrote:
Picked4td wrote:
FRO wrote:
Biggest regret for this offseason so far is us not getting in on FS Chris Clemons. For the money he got and our need at that position, I sure wish we would have pursued that. The draft doesn't offer much as far as a rangy FS. I'm not sure we are even looking at any. None have had private workouts or top 30 visits as far as I know.


ya, im really starting to believe the FO is content on keeping McLeod as the starter


Now that is scary and I can't really believe that. What other position is weaker? We have 4 picks in top 3 rounds where you are expected to draft productive rookies. CB, FS, OLINE are easily the top 3 needs and I'm sure we will address them early.


oh I'm sure drafting FS in the first 3 rounds is a given, but I'm starting to believe they dont view it as a top priority. By using a 1st round pick on a player, you are usually all but guaranteeing them a starting job, and same for paying a FA a good chunk of money. So with the lack of interest in FS during free agency, and a low interest in safeties thus far before the draft, I wouldnt be surprised if they feel McLeod is a capable starter and feel no pressure in spending money or a high pick on someone they feel may end up not even starting.

with all that said, I do still seem them drafting a FS in the 1st 3 rounds, I guess don't think a FS in the 1st is as likely as it once seemed (unless maybe they trade down from 13 and can get 1 of the top safeties later in the 1st)


Tell that to Brian Quick. (I know, he was technically a 2nd rounder)


It's a 3-year plan with Quick. Snead and Fisher have said that from the very beginning. I don't understand why that's so hard for you to understand. He's making progress, it may not be as fast as YOU want, but I think we need to trust the coaches.


I'm not sure why you took my comment the way the you did. I was pointing out that not all first round (or high) draft picks are expected to contribute immediately.

But, Fisher and Snead never said that Quick would offer next to zero production and lose snaps to a rookie late in his second year. Was that part of the 3 year plan?


Snead has compared him to Vincent Jackson 100 times. Vincent's 2nd year in the league he offered...next to zero production and lost snaps to Eric freaking Parker, an undrafted Free Agent.
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Of course Snead is going to say that.. he needs to tell the fans something to soothe them when they ask about the mistake he made. Im sure he would love to compare Quick to Alshon Jeffrey..... ohwait
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