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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MKnight82 - your Depth Chart makes sense.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I got to ask how are we going to do the UDFA thing? We going to post name here or PM the GM's?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am SO stupid- Brent Urban should have been the pick @178
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I am SO stupid- Brent Urban should have been the pick @178
He had a lingering foot injury that prevented him from participating at his pro day. His medical might make him go undrafted. He could be a UDFA target for us.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MKnight82 wrote:
DCRED wrote:
I am SO stupid- Brent Urban should have been the pick @178
He had a lingering foot injury that prevented him from participating at his pro day. His medical might make him go undrafted. He could be a UDFA target for us.


There is another guy that I am watching that you PM'd me about.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MKnight82 wrote:
This would be mine:

QB (3) Robert Griffin III, Kirk Cousins, Josh Johnson
- all 3 remain, Johnson is here because he's familiar with coach Gruden's system so he can help the other 2 QBs with the playbook.
HB (3) Alfred Morris, Roy Helu Jr, Chris Thompson
- I cut Royster because I think Chris Thompson's speed is something we are lacking at the position otherwise.
FB (1) Darrel Young
- obvious
WR (5) Pierre Garcon, Hakeem Nicks, Andre Roberts, Jared Abbrederis, Aldrick Robinson
- I went with 5 WRs. Gettis can go on the PS, I would put Hankerson on IR to let him recover from his injury. We also have several pass catching options at TE so carrying a ton of WRs isn't necessary.
TE (4) Jordan Reed, Joe Don Duncan, Logan Paulsen, Niles Paul
- Duncan will play IMO, he's a great second receiving TE option if Reed gets hurt again. Paul sticks around for special teams (as a gunner, no more KR).
LT (2) Trent Williams, Tom Compton
- obvious
LG (2) Brandon Thomas, Josh LeRibeus
- obvious
OC (1) Kory Lichtensteiger
- Gettis is undersized and is the least talented of our 10 Olineman. I seriously doubt we carry 10 offensive lineman and Leribeus can play Center.
RG (2) - Geoff Schwartz, Maurice Hurt
- obvious
RT (2) - Jonathan Martin, Tyler Polumbus
- Polumbus sticks around but should be offered up for trade in this scenario IMO.
LE (2) Barry Cofield, Jarvis Jenkins
- obvious
NT (2) Kenrick Ellis, Chris Neild
- obvious
RE (2) - Antonio Smith, Chris Baker
- obvious
LOLB (2) Ryan Kerrigan, Darryl Tapp
- Keeping Tapp is up for debate IMO. I do think he's better than the bottom of the depth chart MLBs though.
MLB (5) Brandon Spikes, Perry Riley, Carl Bradford, Keenan Robinson, Josh Hull
- Hull sticks around for special teams. Bradford takes snaps at MLB & OLB.
ROLB (2) - Brian Orakpo, Brandon Jenkins
- obvious
CB (5) Deangelo Hall, David Amerson, Loucheiz Purifoy, Javier Arenas, Richard Crawford
- This list is pretty obvious to me, Minnifield goes to PS.
FS (2) Louis Delmas, Bacarri Rambo
- Pierre Warren goes to PS.
SS (3) - Brandon Meriweather, Phillip Thomas, Reed Doughty
- Doughty sticks around for special teams.
K (1) Kai Forbath
P (1) UDFA Punter
LS (1) Nick Sundberg
1. Is it really necessary to keep the 3rd QB?

IMO we shouldn't keep Josh Johnson. We should sign an udfa QB to our practice squad, keep Adam Gettis as our reserve Center and obviously put Hankerson on PUP, there's no reason to cut him before the season.

I don't think we need to keep 5 safeties, but if we do, we should keep Gumbs or Robinson. They're 8 years younger than Doughty and can fill his role as special teams ace.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

turtle28 wrote:
MKnight82 wrote:
This would be mine:

QB (3) Robert Griffin III, Kirk Cousins, Josh Johnson
- all 3 remain, Johnson is here because he's familiar with coach Gruden's system so he can help the other 2 QBs with the playbook.
HB (3) Alfred Morris, Roy Helu Jr, Chris Thompson
- I cut Royster because I think Chris Thompson's speed is something we are lacking at the position otherwise.
FB (1) Darrel Young
- obvious
WR (5) Pierre Garcon, Hakeem Nicks, Andre Roberts, Jared Abbrederis, Aldrick Robinson
- I went with 5 WRs. Gettis can go on the PS, I would put Hankerson on IR to let him recover from his injury. We also have several pass catching options at TE so carrying a ton of WRs isn't necessary.
TE (4) Jordan Reed, Joe Don Duncan, Logan Paulsen, Niles Paul
- Duncan will play IMO, he's a great second receiving TE option if Reed gets hurt again. Paul sticks around for special teams (as a gunner, no more KR).
LT (2) Trent Williams, Tom Compton
- obvious
LG (2) Brandon Thomas, Josh LeRibeus
- obvious
OC (1) Kory Lichtensteiger
- Gettis is undersized and is the least talented of our 10 Olineman. I seriously doubt we carry 10 offensive lineman and Leribeus can play Center.
RG (2) - Geoff Schwartz, Maurice Hurt
- obvious
RT (2) - Jonathan Martin, Tyler Polumbus
- Polumbus sticks around but should be offered up for trade in this scenario IMO.
LE (2) Barry Cofield, Jarvis Jenkins
- obvious
NT (2) Kenrick Ellis, Chris Neild
- obvious
RE (2) - Antonio Smith, Chris Baker
- obvious
LOLB (2) Ryan Kerrigan, Darryl Tapp
- Keeping Tapp is up for debate IMO. I do think he's better than the bottom of the depth chart MLBs though.
MLB (5) Brandon Spikes, Perry Riley, Carl Bradford, Keenan Robinson, Josh Hull
- Hull sticks around for special teams. Bradford takes snaps at MLB & OLB.
ROLB (2) - Brian Orakpo, Brandon Jenkins
- obvious
CB (5) Deangelo Hall, David Amerson, Loucheiz Purifoy, Javier Arenas, Richard Crawford
- This list is pretty obvious to me, Minnifield goes to PS.
FS (2) Louis Delmas, Bacarri Rambo
- Pierre Warren goes to PS.
SS (3) - Brandon Meriweather, Phillip Thomas, Reed Doughty
- Doughty sticks around for special teams.
K (1) Kai Forbath
P (1) UDFA Punter
LS (1) Nick Sundberg
1. Is it really necessary to keep the 3rd QB?

IMO we shouldn't keep Josh Johnson. We should sign an udfa QB to our practice squad, keep Adam Gettis as our reserve Center and obviously put Hankerson on PUP, there's no reason to cut him before the season.

I don't think we need to keep 5 safeties, but if we do, we should keep Gumbs or Robinson. They're 8 years younger than Doughty and can fill his role as special teams ace.
We have two very young QBs. Keeping a veteran who is familiar with Grudens offense makes a lot of sense.

Carrying 10 offensive lineman is highly unneccesary especially when so many of ours play multiple positions.

Doughty is a much better player than either of those IMO.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't get how you're killing Gettis. He's definitely better then Hurt and can play either Guard spot.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MKnight82 wrote:
turtle28 wrote:
MKnight82 wrote:
This would be mine:

QB (3) Robert Griffin III, Kirk Cousins, Josh Johnson
- all 3 remain, Johnson is here because he's familiar with coach Gruden's system so he can help the other 2 QBs with the playbook.
HB (3) Alfred Morris, Roy Helu Jr, Chris Thompson
- I cut Royster because I think Chris Thompson's speed is something we are lacking at the position otherwise.
FB (1) Darrel Young
- obvious
WR (5) Pierre Garcon, Hakeem Nicks, Andre Roberts, Jared Abbrederis, Aldrick Robinson
- I went with 5 WRs. Gettis can go on the PS, I would put Hankerson on IR to let him recover from his injury. We also have several pass catching options at TE so carrying a ton of WRs isn't necessary.
TE (4) Jordan Reed, Joe Don Duncan, Logan Paulsen, Niles Paul
- Duncan will play IMO, he's a great second receiving TE option if Reed gets hurt again. Paul sticks around for special teams (as a gunner, no more KR).
LT (2) Trent Williams, Tom Compton
- obvious
LG (2) Brandon Thomas, Josh LeRibeus
- obvious
OC (1) Kory Lichtensteiger
- Gettis is undersized and is the least talented of our 10 Olineman. I seriously doubt we carry 10 offensive lineman and Leribeus can play Center.
RG (2) - Geoff Schwartz, Maurice Hurt
- obvious
RT (2) - Jonathan Martin, Tyler Polumbus
- Polumbus sticks around but should be offered up for trade in this scenario IMO.
LE (2) Barry Cofield, Jarvis Jenkins
- obvious
NT (2) Kenrick Ellis, Chris Neild
- obvious
RE (2) - Antonio Smith, Chris Baker
- obvious
LOLB (2) Ryan Kerrigan, Darryl Tapp
- Keeping Tapp is up for debate IMO. I do think he's better than the bottom of the depth chart MLBs though.
MLB (5) Brandon Spikes, Perry Riley, Carl Bradford, Keenan Robinson, Josh Hull
- Hull sticks around for special teams. Bradford takes snaps at MLB & OLB.
ROLB (2) - Brian Orakpo, Brandon Jenkins
- obvious
CB (5) Deangelo Hall, David Amerson, Loucheiz Purifoy, Javier Arenas, Richard Crawford
- This list is pretty obvious to me, Minnifield goes to PS.
FS (2) Louis Delmas, Bacarri Rambo
- Pierre Warren goes to PS.
SS (3) - Brandon Meriweather, Phillip Thomas, Reed Doughty
- Doughty sticks around for special teams.
K (1) Kai Forbath
P (1) UDFA Punter
LS (1) Nick Sundberg
1. Is it really necessary to keep the 3rd QB?

IMO we shouldn't keep Josh Johnson. We should sign an udfa QB to our practice squad, keep Adam Gettis as our reserve Center and obviously put Hankerson on PUP, there's no reason to cut him before the season.

I don't think we need to keep 5 safeties, but if we do, we should keep Gumbs or Robinson. They're 8 years younger than Doughty and can fill his role as special teams ace.
We have two very young QBs. Keeping a veteran who is familiar with Grudens offense makes a lot of sense.

Carrying 10 offensive lineman is highly unneccesary especially when so many of ours play multiple positions.

Doughty is a much better player than either of those IMO.
Josh Johnson is a veteran with vast knowledge?

He's not even as knowledgeable and reliable as a Rex Grossman. That's a waste of a roster spot.

Keeping an extra 25 year old center/guard (Gettis) we've been developing for two seasons as depth is never a bad idea.

Keeping a 25 year old wr we've been developing for 3 years (Hankerson) is never a bad idea, we can put him on pup to start the league.

There's Also zero reason to keep Doughty at this point over Gumbs or Robinson. They're our possible future reserve safeties that are good athletic special teams players and may develop into starters. They're also both cheaper than Doughty.

and again, we need to think about the future, not guys like Josh Johnson who proved to be nothing in his career and he's not a mentor type like Grossman or Doughty who should be replaced by one of these young safeties on the roster to get faster, and more athletic on special teams
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brian23 wrote:
I don't get how you're killing Gettis. He's definitely better then Hurt and can play either Guard spot.
How is he better than Hurt?

Hurt's started for us at guard and right tackle...
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

turtle28 wrote:
Brian23 wrote:
I don't get how you're killing Gettis. He's definitely better then Hurt and can play either Guard spot.
How is he better than Hurt?

Hurt's started for us at guard and right tackle...


Starting out of necessity isn't exactly proving your point. I'd almost be willing to put money Gettis is a starter next year and Hurt isn't.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brian23 wrote:
turtle28 wrote:
Brian23 wrote:
I don't get how you're killing Gettis. He's definitely better then Hurt and can play either Guard spot.
How is he better than Hurt?

Hurt's started for us at guard and right tackle...


Starting out of necessity isn't exactly proving your point. I'd almost be willing to put money Gettis is a starter next year and Hurt isn't.
Hurt was forced into the starting spot at RT in 2012 vs Phila, and I don't remember him giving up a sack and our running game didn't lose a step.

I think it's quite a stretch thinking Gettis could start this year over Lauvao, Kory L, LeRibeus or Hurt.

There's been nothing to prove that could be the case. At this point, he's a fringe roster player after those 4 interior players and if we sign or draft another interior OL, unfortunately, you can all but write his ticket out if town.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

turtle28 wrote:
MKnight82 wrote:
turtle28 wrote:
MKnight82 wrote:
This would be mine:

QB (3) Robert Griffin III, Kirk Cousins, Josh Johnson
- all 3 remain, Johnson is here because he's familiar with coach Gruden's system so he can help the other 2 QBs with the playbook.
HB (3) Alfred Morris, Roy Helu Jr, Chris Thompson
- I cut Royster because I think Chris Thompson's speed is something we are lacking at the position otherwise.
FB (1) Darrel Young
- obvious
WR (5) Pierre Garcon, Hakeem Nicks, Andre Roberts, Jared Abbrederis, Aldrick Robinson
- I went with 5 WRs. Gettis can go on the PS, I would put Hankerson on IR to let him recover from his injury. We also have several pass catching options at TE so carrying a ton of WRs isn't necessary.
TE (4) Jordan Reed, Joe Don Duncan, Logan Paulsen, Niles Paul
- Duncan will play IMO, he's a great second receiving TE option if Reed gets hurt again. Paul sticks around for special teams (as a gunner, no more KR).
LT (2) Trent Williams, Tom Compton
- obvious
LG (2) Brandon Thomas, Josh LeRibeus
- obvious
OC (1) Kory Lichtensteiger
- Gettis is undersized and is the least talented of our 10 Olineman. I seriously doubt we carry 10 offensive lineman and Leribeus can play Center.
RG (2) - Geoff Schwartz, Maurice Hurt
- obvious
RT (2) - Jonathan Martin, Tyler Polumbus
- Polumbus sticks around but should be offered up for trade in this scenario IMO.
LE (2) Barry Cofield, Jarvis Jenkins
- obvious
NT (2) Kenrick Ellis, Chris Neild
- obvious
RE (2) - Antonio Smith, Chris Baker
- obvious
LOLB (2) Ryan Kerrigan, Darryl Tapp
- Keeping Tapp is up for debate IMO. I do think he's better than the bottom of the depth chart MLBs though.
MLB (5) Brandon Spikes, Perry Riley, Carl Bradford, Keenan Robinson, Josh Hull
- Hull sticks around for special teams. Bradford takes snaps at MLB & OLB.
ROLB (2) - Brian Orakpo, Brandon Jenkins
- obvious
CB (5) Deangelo Hall, David Amerson, Loucheiz Purifoy, Javier Arenas, Richard Crawford
- This list is pretty obvious to me, Minnifield goes to PS.
FS (2) Louis Delmas, Bacarri Rambo
- Pierre Warren goes to PS.
SS (3) - Brandon Meriweather, Phillip Thomas, Reed Doughty
- Doughty sticks around for special teams.
K (1) Kai Forbath
P (1) UDFA Punter
LS (1) Nick Sundberg
1. Is it really necessary to keep the 3rd QB?

IMO we shouldn't keep Josh Johnson. We should sign an udfa QB to our practice squad, keep Adam Gettis as our reserve Center and obviously put Hankerson on PUP, there's no reason to cut him before the season.

I don't think we need to keep 5 safeties, but if we do, we should keep Gumbs or Robinson. They're 8 years younger than Doughty and can fill his role as special teams ace.
We have two very young QBs. Keeping a veteran who is familiar with Grudens offense makes a lot of sense.

Carrying 10 offensive lineman is highly unneccesary especially when so many of ours play multiple positions.

Doughty is a much better player than either of those IMO.
Josh Johnson is a veteran with vast knowledge?

He's not even as knowledgeable and reliable as a Rex Grossman. That's a waste of a roster spot.

Keeping an extra 25 year old center/guard (Gettis) we've been developing for two seasons as depth is never a bad idea.

Keeping a 25 year old wr we've been developing for 3 years (Hankerson) is never a bad idea, we can put him on pup to start the league.

There's Also zero reason to keep Doughty at this point over Gumbs or Robinson. They're our possible future reserve safeties that are good athletic special teams players and may develop into starters. They're also both cheaper than Doughty.

and again, we need to think about the future, not guys like Josh Johnson who proved to be nothing in his career and he's not a mentor type like Grossman or Doughty who should be replaced by one of these young safeties on the roster to get faster, and more athletic on special teams
Well I simply disagree with your entire post. Also I don't understand why you keep saying we shouldn't cut Hankerson when I didn't have us cutting him, I said put him on IR let him heal the entire year.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have submitted our first 3 UDFA bids (we are only allowed 3 at a time). Lets not discuss who we are bidding on in the public thread because if no one else bids on the players we are asking on for 3 hours we could possibly land all 3. PM if you would like to know who we bid on.
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Can't wait to see how we do?
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