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wwhickok


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cody Wallace is getting resigned prior to Free Agency.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just an FYI, Ronin apparently IS on the franchise Tag.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kethnaab wrote:
well, if we keep Woodley, there's no real reason to switch to a 4-3 unless we think he can play as a 4-3 RDE (which I do not think he can do)

if we are going to go with a 4-3, designate Woodley as a June 1st cut


I am completely opposed to going 4-3.

We arent any better suited to run that than we are the 3-4. Cam is our best young defensive player and he is much better suited for 34 DE than any position in the 43.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cody Wallace is staying put, on a 5 year, $5M deal, fully guaranteed that pays him not a penny over $1M a year, which frankly is probably too high but, this is FFMD, so who gives a ****
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FourThreeMafia wrote:
kethnaab wrote:
well, if we keep Woodley, there's no real reason to switch to a 4-3 unless we think he can play as a 4-3 RDE (which I do not think he can do)

if we are going to go with a 4-3, designate Woodley as a June 1st cut


I am completely opposed to going 4-3.

We arent any better suited to run that than we are the 3-4. Cam is our best young defensive player and he is much better suited for 34 DE than any position in the 43.


1. A Carroll 4-3 has the identical 5-technique position
2. Much of the havoc he created this season was from the 3-technique position
3. If we don't have Woodley or Worilds, tell me who our pass rushing OLBs are
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So look, it's like this. when we give someone contract offer, the only things that matter are the signing bonus and guaranteed money. As long as those look sexy, we're golden. League Minimum Salaries here we come.
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I'm heading home for the night here shortly gentlemen so my access will be very limited until the morning. On Wednesday my internet service is getting hooked up at my new house.

I assume that Cody Wallace is getting approved. I already factored him into our Cap space. If he doesn't.....I don't even have words for what I think is going on.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am in favor of a 4-3 ... Ziggy should be a cheap resign and he fits the 4-3 much better , McClendon I think fits it better, al woods would be a good depth penetrator

heyward will be fine as a 4-3 DE , he can create all the havoc he wants

Garvin fits better as a 4-3 OLB , as does Jarvis ... Maybe Jarvis could play ILB??
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only thing I'm on the fence about is J1 Woodley ... While I would love the money ... Is there anybody out there who would be better at DE , that we could afford ... If so , go ahead ... If not why not give him a chance
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jarvis Jones isn't a 4-3 MLB I don't think
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kethnaab wrote:
1. A Carroll 4-3 has the identical 5-technique position


Except LeBeau is still our DC, and even if he wasnt, finding a DC that ran that defense just as efficiently wouldnt be easy.

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2. Much of the havoc he created this season was from the 3-technique position


And just as much of it was from the 5 tech...under Lebeau.

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3. If we don't have Woodley or Worilds, tell me who our pass rushing OLBs are


1) We havent cut Woodley yet.

2) How are you gonna ask me who would be our pass rushing OLBs when we dont even have any rush ends? Yes, Heyward could play there and probably at a decent level, but he is still much better suited for the 34.

You can spin it all you want, but it doesnt change the fact that we are no better personnel wise in the 43 than we currently are in the 34. And the cherry on top...Lebeau is still our DC, so we have no one to run the 43 either.

I might be on board if we had a chance at getting a guy like Clowney, but since we dont, I am against it.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FourThreeMafia wrote:
kethnaab wrote:
1. A Carroll 4-3 has the identical 5-technique position


Except LeBeau is still our DC


wwhickok wrote:




Pittsburgh Steelers War Council:

General Manager: wwhickok
Assistant General Manager: jebrick
Capologist: cbrunn2
Head Coach: Kethnaab
Offensive Coordinator: Irish11
Defensive Coordinator: FourthreeMafia
Special Teams Coordinator: AlanFanecaFan
Peanut Gallery KJtheWicked




43Mafia wrote:
kethnaab wrote:
3. If we don't have Woodley or Worilds, tell me who our pass rushing OLBs are


1) We havent cut Woodley yet.

2) How are you gonna ask me who would be our pass rushing OLBs when we dont even have any rush ends? Yes, Heyward could play there and probably at a decent level, but he is still much better suited for the 34.


well, that's 1 more rush end than LB. Sad

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And the cherry on top...Lebeau is still our DC, so we have no one to run the 43 either.


I have faith in you brother!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kethnaab wrote:
FourThreeMafia wrote:
kethnaab wrote:
1. A Carroll 4-3 has the identical 5-technique position


Except LeBeau is still our DC


wwhickok wrote:




Pittsburgh Steelers War Council:

General Manager: wwhickok
Assistant General Manager: jebrick
Capologist: cbrunn2
Head Coach: Kethnaab
Offensive Coordinator: Irish11
Defensive Coordinator: FourthreeMafia
Special Teams Coordinator: AlanFanecaFan
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43Mafia wrote:
kethnaab wrote:
3. If we don't have Woodley or Worilds, tell me who our pass rushing OLBs are


1) We havent cut Woodley yet.

2) How are you gonna ask me who would be our pass rushing OLBs when we dont even have any rush ends? Yes, Heyward could play there and probably at a decent level, but he is still much better suited for the 34.


well, that's 1 more rush end than LB. Sad

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And the cherry on top...Lebeau is still our DC, so we have no one to run the 43 either.


I have faith in you brother!!!


LMAO

I guess you got me there. Laughing

In the end, I just dont see any major benefits of going to the 4-3. Im not even saying its a terrible idea.....I just dont think its a GOOD idea.

IMO, we dont have the personnel to run either defense at a high level, but I still feel like we have a better chance of fixing the 34 up a bit this year than I do in rebuiilding our entire defense around the 43.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

43Mafia wrote:
IMO, we dont have the personnel to run either defense at a high level, but I still feel like we have a better chance of fixing the 34 up a bit this year than I do in rebuilding our entire defense around the 43.


yeah, that is the sad truth. Sad
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kethnaab wrote:
Jarvis Jones isn't a 4-3 MLB I don't think


I don't think so either, but he'd be a good OLB ... That would leave Garvin or Timmons as your ILB or you could play Troy there

I don't want any parts of CJ Moseley in the draft though , please no , I hate Alabama prospects ... I don't trust them
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