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fracdaddy14


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So are we gonna remove his tag now and let him go free?



We'll have to put this to a vote now.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Acgott wrote:
So are we gonna remove his tag now and let him go free?



We'll have to put this to a vote now.

I vote to remove the tag
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fracdaddy14 wrote:
Not a surprise at all since DHunt said he would decline the extension for Linval if he was the agent in the FFMD General Thread.


I'm just going to nip this one in the bud. It was put up to a vote, and everyone's vote was worth the same and it was for the most part in agreement that it wasn't a fair deal.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Contract Extension for Linval Joseph

http://www.bigblueview.com/2014/2/16/5414154/linval-joseph-nfl-free-agency-2014-new-york-giants


Good evening Linval and thank you for allowing the coach and I to meet you at your summer house in South Beach. We felt it best to meet you rather than you having to come to us, considering the stress you’ve probably been under with finding out this morning that we placed the franchise tag on you as we know that is the most dreaded thing a player has to hear, it isn’t our style as I can’t tell you the last player we franchised. It doesn’t provide either of us any security in the business. Unfortunately it was a necessary move to ensure we… Is there a place we can talk about this, perhaps inside out of this heat? Seattle’s taken two Xanax bars and he’s waving this damn shade umbrella everywhere but over me.

Mr Joseph, can I call you Linval? Alright, Linval, I’ve sent a copy of this contract to your agent. Seattle, get Joseph’s agent on the phone so that we can go over the details on this long term contract. Again we hated the fact that because of our early cap figure that we had to place the franchise tag before making you an genuine offer but it was our only option to ensure we could retain the services of two of our top defensive players.

We’ve got big plans this offseason to beef up the defense, we’re bringing Jon Beason back for a long term deal and we’re looking at our options to get several of our defensive players back as well as some top notch players in the secondary. We will also be getting Manning some protection and working some deals at running back and tight end. This failure of a season isn’t something that you can expect to happen again next season. We are moving in the right direction and will be a playoff contender this coming season.

You get his agent on the phone yet Seattle? Ok great, finally we found a job for you.

So here is our offer Linval;

6 year contract worth 49 million containing 18.25 million in guarantees via a signing bonus of 16.25 million and a first year base guarantee of 2 million.

Anyway, here are the details of the contract.

Year 1 = 2 million base (guaranteed) + 3.25 million signing bonus = 5.25 million
Year 2 = 3.5 million base + 3.25 million signing bonus = 6.75 million
Year 3 = 5.5 million base + 3.25 million signing bonus = 8.75 million
Year 4 = 6 million base + 3.25 million signing bonus = 9.25 million
Year 5 = 6.5 million base + 3.25 million signing bonus = 9.75 million
Year 6 = 9.25 million base


NFL Comparison- Vince Wilfork- 5yrs, $40m, $18m guaranteed


This extension offer has been declined. Linval Joseph will play out the season on the franchise tag.



http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=17722053#17722053

Not at all surprised by this move.

Contract was well within the rules and the offer was a very fair deal.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fracdaddy14 wrote:
Acgott wrote:
So are we gonna remove his tag now and let him go free?



We'll have to put this to a vote now.


I think we have to let him walk, personally I think its bs that it wasn't accepted to begin with, simply because of the comments made at the time he was tagged. It'll be interesting to see which team and for how much he signs with in the talent agency or shark tank but whatever.

As it stands right now our current cap figure is Top 51 Cap Space $8,167,920.66.

Not going to be enough to even attempt to fill our roster with scrubs.

The way I see it we've got to let him go.

Which puts our cap at $16,947,920.66.

My vote is to release him.

We could probably offer a weaker deal in the talent agency and still pick him up.

49 million dollar contract with 18+ in guarantees in what people are saying isn't a pocket pusher, it'll be interesting to see what he's awarded.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The mods in charged of FFMD voted on it.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acgott wrote:
The mods in charged of FFMD voted on it.


Voted on the Linval deal?

The mod that said it should be declined before the extension even hit the table.

Seems pretty fishy to me.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are we even going to be allowed to drop his tag?

Considering the last comment from where he declined.

"This extension offer has been declined. Linval Joseph will play out the season on the franchise tag."
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ny92jefferis wrote:
Are we even going to be allowed to drop his tag?

Considering the last comment from where he declined.

"This extension offer has been declined. Linval Joseph will play out the season on the franchise tag."

Dhunt said we can do it before 11 PM tonight
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acgott wrote:
ny92jefferis wrote:
Are we even going to be allowed to drop his tag?

Considering the last comment from where he declined.

"This extension offer has been declined. Linval Joseph will play out the season on the franchise tag."

Dhunt said we can do it before 11 PM tonight


Where does he say that at?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ny92jefferis wrote:
Acgott wrote:
The mods in charged of FFMD voted on it.


Voted on the Linval deal?

The mod that said it should be declined before the extension even hit the table.

Seems pretty fishy to me.


dhunt wasn't the only mod that voted on it. This also wasn't made by 1 or 2 mods, there were several votes on the extensions and it was decided against accepting. Your team isn't the first one to get denied and you also have already had 2 accepted proposals.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dhunt2402 wrote:
Acgott wrote:
So are we gonna remove his tag now and let him go free?


Just a heads up, if that's the decision you guys go with, you would need to announce it by 11pm EST tonight per the FFMD Schedule.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remove the tag.

Can we get a Sig bet that linval gets a similar deal IRL Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raves wrote:
ny92jefferis wrote:
Acgott wrote:
The mods in charged of FFMD voted on it.


Voted on the Linval deal?

The mod that said it should be declined before the extension even hit the table.

Seems pretty fishy to me.


dhunt wasn't the only mod that voted on it. This also wasn't made by 1 or 2 mods, there were several votes on the extensions and it was decided against accepting. Your team isn't the first one to get denied and you also have already had 2 accepted proposals.


I understand that but put yourself in our shoes. You see a post from a voter that is already looking to decline the extension before we ever submitted it.

Doesn't that seem a bit off to you?

We'll deal with it as we'll most likely be forced to release him.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bballbkd1001 wrote:
Remove the tag.

Can we get a Sig bet that linval gets a similar deal IRL Smile


right.
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