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Bobby816
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| I don't think Matthews is a reach at 18 personally. |
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ganggreen1102
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| Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Bobby816 wrote: | | I don't think Matthews is a reach at 18 personally. |
I don't think so either but Barr has top 5-10 talent and its a position of need
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Bianconero
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| Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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I remember Idzik saying last year that the draft is meant for talent and Free Agency for need.
I'm curious to see what the board looks like so far. |
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superbowlbound
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| ganggreen1102 wrote: | | Bobby816 wrote: | | I don't think Matthews is a reach at 18 personally. |
I don't think so either but Barr has top 5-10 talent and its a position of need |
I'll go for the higher upside guy in Barr
With that said, the Giants will take Barr if he falls to them unless Lewan or a big OLine falls to them
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green24
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| superbowlbound wrote: | | ganggreen1102 wrote: | | Bobby816 wrote: | | I don't think Matthews is a reach at 18 personally. |
I don't think so either but Barr has top 5-10 talent and its a position of need |
I'll go for the higher upside guy in Barr
With that said, the Giants will take Barr if he falls to them unless Lewan or a big OLine falls to them |
Barr in a 4-3? Meh…
I'd take OBJ. And it wouldn't be a reach. |
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KingOfTheDot
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| Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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| superbowlbound wrote: | | ganggreen1102 wrote: | | Bobby816 wrote: | | I don't think Matthews is a reach at 18 personally. |
I don't think so either but Barr has top 5-10 talent and its a position of need |
I'll go for the higher upside guy in Barr
With that said, the Giants will take Barr if he falls to them unless Lewan or a big OLine falls to them |
Giants would take Barr and play him where??
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Bobby816
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| I don't think Barr's talent is great enough for us to avoid actual needs. Our pass rush was actually pretty good last season and that was with Coples and Barnes missing time. I 100% think we have to go WR or TE with our 1st. If we do go a different direction I'd rather it be a safety actually, our secondary needs help more than pass rush. |
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rampantjet
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| Bobby816 wrote: | | I don't think Barr's talent is great enough for us to avoid actual needs. Our pass rush was actually pretty good last season and that was with Coples and Barnes missing time. I 100% think we have to go WR or TE with our 1st. If we do go a different direction I'd rather it be a safety actually, our secondary needs help more than pass rush. |
This all depends to much on FA, which hasn't really happened yet. Who knows what our needs will be, hopefully we will have far fewer needs by then. |
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Mr.O
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| Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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| id take Barr over OBJ/Cooks/Mathews at 18, the value would be too good their and the WR class is insanely deep so it wouldn't kill us. |
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Bianconero
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| Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:12 am Post subject: |
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| If Barr fell to 18 I can 100% see Idzik taking him. |
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Imarobot
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Peter King said he thinks the Jets in the first round is the perfect landing spot for Brandin Cooks. Ohhh how happy I would be 
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KingOfTheDot
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| Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 3:44 am Post subject: |
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| Imarobot wrote: | | Peter King said he thinks the Jets in the first round is the perfect landing spot for Brandin Cooks. Ohhh how happy I would be |
Peter King said the Jets would go 3-13
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Heymangold
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can't say i'm a fan of Cooks. honestly if Ebron, Cooks and OBJ were sitting there at 18, it'd probably take Ebron, then try and trade back in late 1st for a WR
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rickyt31
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| Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:32 am Post subject: |
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| Bianconero wrote: | | If Barr fell to 18 I can 100% see Idzik taking him. |
Same here and I would love it.
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skrILL
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| Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:35 am Post subject: |
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| rickyt31 wrote: | | Bianconero wrote: | | If Barr fell to 18 I can 100% see Idzik taking him. |
Same here and I would love it. |
I would hate it. He's not a top 25 prospect IMO.
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