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Gruber74


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

deuces22wild wrote:
Gil Brandt's pro day blog:

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Representatives from 27 NFL teams — including Cincinnati Bengals tight ends coach Jonathan Hayes — were on hand for Colorado State’s pro day on Wednesday. A total of nine Colorado State players — plus five others from area small colleges such as Adams State, Colorado Mesa, Fort Lewis and Northern Colorado — worked out indoors on FieldTurf.

Colorado State had three players at the NFL Scouting Combine, with the most promising prospect being center Weston Richburg. Richburg (6-foot-3 3/4, 304 pounds) stood on his numbers from the combine. He was worked out in offensive line drills by Hayes, who is one of the best there is at working these type of players out. Richburg responded with a really good workout.

If a team is looking for the next Alex Mack, Richburg is that guy. He’ll be your starting center for the next 10 years.


I agree. Guys like him really help teams over the long haul. I'd love to get him in the 2nd. I wouldn't be shocked if someone jumped on him late 1st like Dallas did with Frederick last year.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perfect scenario:

We sign Emmanuel Sanders in free agency to be our slot WR.

Teddy Bridgewater falls to our #7 pick and we draft him.

Due to Detroit signing Golden Tate they pass on Mike Evans and he is available at the Rams #13 pick, their 2nd of the 1st round.

Bucs trade this years 2nd, 2015 1st and Mike Williams to the Rams for the #13 pick.

With the #13 pick we draft #13 Mike Evans. Cool

BOOM!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lil' Shorty wrote:
Perfect scenario:

We sign Emmanuel Sanders in free agency to be our slot WR.

Teddy Bridgewater falls to our #7 pick and we draft him.

Due to Detroit signing Golden Tate they pass on Mike Evans and he is available at the Rams #13 pick, their 2nd of the 1st round.

Bucs trade this years 2nd, 2015 1st and Mike Williams to the Rams for the #13 pick.

With the #13 pick we draft #13 Mike Evans. Cool

BOOM!


Haha you have an imaginary mind my friend.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

REDandPEWTER wrote:
Lil' Shorty wrote:
Perfect scenario:

We sign Emmanuel Sanders in free agency to be our slot WR.

Teddy Bridgewater falls to our #7 pick and we draft him.

Due to Detroit signing Golden Tate they pass on Mike Evans and he is available at the Rams #13 pick, their 2nd of the 1st round.

Bucs trade this years 2nd, 2015 1st and Mike Williams to the Rams for the #13 pick.

With the #13 pick we draft #13 Mike Evans. Cool

BOOM!


Haha you have an imaginary mind my friend.

As crazy as that might be, has our front office not already shown that they will surprise you? Im not saying the Rams would take that, but Fisher has never had an issue with character concerns before and Mike Williams is a baller when he is focused. Furthermore, instead of the Rams having 2 1sts this year they would have 2 2nds and an extra 1st next year. Seems like a pretty enticing trade scenario to me.

If this happened we are winning the Super Bowl within 3 years. Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You really think Mike Evans is worth a 2nd and next year's 1st to trade up for? Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tml_gogo wrote:
You really think Mike Evans is worth a 2nd and next year's 1st to trade up for? Confused

Well in this scenario he would be our 2nd round pick. But with Mike Williams future probably in jeopardy, something I bet not a lot of people around the league know, all we really lose is a 1st next year. Yes, I do think he is worth that.

Teddy / McCown
Jackson / Evans / Sanders

Pick an OL in the 3rd round.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Draft Watkins number 7 overall and keep Mike Williams,

if Watkins is gone I say we take Mack or Barr


Top 3 defense if we take one of them guys. I say we sign a veteran corner like Tillman as well. Possibly Devin Hester as well
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First path to the draft is just starting.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some mad interest in qbs in this draft.

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As opposed to unserious, illegitimate interest, I guess? And of course, there's always the caveat about draft smokescreens. But with Smith and Jimmy Garoppolo, who they've met with at least twice, we can at least say something about the kinds of players the Buccaneers seem to want at quarterback: pocket passers with a quick release, and a solid arm. Incidentally, that description also fits Blake Bortles and Derek Carr, but not Teddy Bridgewater (weaker arm) and Johnny Manziel (lots of plays outside structure) less so.


http://www.bucsnation.com/2014/3/13/5506678/2014-nfl-draft-rumors-buccaneers-quarterbacks-brett-smith

I don't agree on Teddy bridgewater. But it is odd we interviewed Jimmy g, bortles, Carr and smith. Not Teddy? Could be a smoke screen.

Basis of this post: they're looking for a qb to groom behind McCown or push McCown and find their franchise guy.

I think the writings on the wall for glennon.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've watched a ton of Teddy, and while he doesn't have a Cutler or Favre type rocket, his arm is plenty strong. Saying he has a weak arm is just wrong. Not sure where that writer got that.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tml_gogo wrote:
I've watched a ton of Teddy, and while he doesn't have a Cutler or Favre type rocket, his arm is plenty strong. Saying he has a weak arm is just wrong. Not sure where that writer got that.


Agree. I'm hoping we looked and talked to Teddy.

It's seems like glennons starting future is bleak. Sorry deuces and djw Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After studying our moves a bit I think I hv an idea of what we might do
In the draft

I mean tackle was a need- boom; we drop penn and sign Collins
DE need- sign Johnson
Everyone knows about revis and the signing of Verner
Center isn't a need anymore

We've been pretty aggressive and it's kind of unmasked a lot about what we will do in the draft

Our the only logical possibilities in the draft now are Mack, Barr, Watkins , or a Move for a Quarterback
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

REDandPEWTER wrote:
tml_gogo wrote:
I've watched a ton of Teddy, and while he doesn't have a Cutler or Favre type rocket, his arm is plenty strong. Saying he has a weak arm is just wrong. Not sure where that writer got that.


Agree. I'm hoping we looked and talked to Teddy.

It's seems like glennons starting future is bleak. Sorry deuces and djw Wink


Still got my boy McCown on the roster.

As long as we don't bring Freeman back or go out and sign Tebow like some wanted I'm not going to lose any sleep Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With end filled not sure where Barr fits on our def anymore.

He isn't the type of guy that can be plugged into the strong side like Mack can.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

deuces22wild wrote:
With end filled not sure where Barr fits on our def anymore.

He isn't the type of guy that can be plugged into the strong side like Mack can.


Agreed, I think Barr is the prototypical 3-4 OLB. I still believe the pick will be a Qb in the first round, but if by chance Watkins is at #7 may be too good to pass up. I believe Tedford will design more of a spread offense and with Watkins ability to line-up in the slot or outside combined with his speed, could be lethal.
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