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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 4:48 pm    Post subject: Vikings Draft Discussion 4.0 Reply with quote



Please continue the discussing potential draft prospects here.

Remember, this thread is for the discussion and analysis of the prospects themselves. This thread is not for head coaching discussion, or tracking our position as it pertains to draft order.

**If you do discuss anything other than that you will see this post quoted and get a very stern talking too!**

Draft Thread 1.0

Draft Thread 2.0

Draft Thread 3.0

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Davante Adams, WR, Fresno State
Nick Addison, DB, Bethune-Cookman
Jace Amaro, TE, Texas Tech
George Atkinson, RB, Notre Dame
Dion Bailey, S, USC
Odell Beckham, WR, LSU
Kelvin Benjamin, WR, Florida State
Kapri Bibbs, RB, Colorado State
Brendan Bigelow, RB, California
Alfred Blue, RB, LSU
Russell Bodine, C, North Carolina
Blake Bortles, QB, Central Florida
Chris Boyd, WR, Vanderbilt
Carl Bradford, DE, Arizona State
Bashaud Breeland, DB, Clemson
Teddy Bridgewater, QB, Louisville
Martavis Bryant, WR, Clemson
Ka'Deem Carey, RB, Arizona
Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, DB, Alabama
Jadeveon Clowney, DE, South Carolina
Brandon Coleman, WR, Rutgers
Brandin Cooks, WR, Oregon State
Scott Crichton, DE, Oregon State
Isaiah Crowell, RB, Alabama State
Jonathan Dowling, S, Western Kentucky
Kony Ealy, DE, Missouri
Dominique Easley, DT, Florida
Eric Ebron, TE, North Carolina
Bruce Ellington, WR, South Carolina
Mike Evans, WR, Texas A&M
Ego Ferguson, DT, LSU
Cameron Fleming, OT, Stanford
Khairi Fortt, LB, California
Austin Franklin, WR, New Mexico State
Devonta Freeman, RB, Florida State
Carlos Gray, DT, North Carolina State
Xavier Grimble, TE, USC
Terrance Hackney, T, Bethune-Cookman
Vic Hampton, CB, South Carolina
Jeremy Hill, RB, LSU
Adrian Hubbard, LB, Alabama
Kameron Jackson, CB, California
Nic Jacobs, TE, McNeese State
Timmy Jernigan, DT, Florida State
Anthony Johnson, DT, LSU
Storm Johnson, RB, UCF
Henry Josey, RB, Missouri
Cyrus Kouandjio, OT, Alabama
Jarvis Landry, WR, LSU
Cody Latimer, WR, Indiana
Demarcus Lawrence, DE, Boise State
Marqise Lee, WR, USC
A.C. Leonard, TE, Tennessee State
Albert Louis-Jean, DB, Boston College
Colt Lyerla, TE, Oregon
Aaron Lynch, DE, USF
Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M
Marcus Martin, C, USC
Tre Mason, RB, Auburn
Chris McCain, DE, California
Terrance Mitchell, CB, Oregon
Viliami Moala, DT, California
Donte Moncrief, WR, Ole Miss
Adam Muema, RB, San Diego State
Jake Murphy, TE, Utah
Troy Niklas, TE, Notre Dame
Louis Nix III, DT, Notre Dame
Jeoffrey Pagan, DL, Alabama
Ronald Powell, LB, Florida
Calvin Pryor, S, Louisville
Loucheiz Purifoy, CB, Florida
Kelcy Quarles, DL, South Carolina
Darrin Reaves, RB, UAB
Ed Reynolds, FS, Stanford
Antonio Richardson, OT, Tennessee
Paul Richardson, WR, Colorado
Marcus Roberson, CB, Florida
Allen Robinson, WR, Penn State
Greg Robinson, OT, Auburn
Bradley Roby, CB, Ohio State
Richard Rodgers, TE California
Bishop Sankey, RB, Washington
Lache Seastrunk, RB, Baylor
Austin Seferian-Jenkins, TE, Washington
Ryan Shazier, LB, Ohio State
Yawin Smallwood, LB, UConn
Brett Smith, QB, Wyoming
Jerome Smith, RB, Syracuse
Willie Snead, WR, Ball State
John Spooney, RB, Brown
Josh Stewart, WR, Oklahoma State
Xavier Su'a-Filo, OL, UCLA
Vinnie Sunseri, DB, Alabama
De'Anthony Thomas, RB, Oregon
Stephon Tuitt, DE, Notre Dame
Trai Turner, OG, LSU
George Uko, DL, USC
Pierre Warren, FS, Jacksonville State
Sammy Watkins, WR, Clemson
Terrance West, RB, Towson
James Wilder Jr., RB, Florida State
David Yankey, OL, Stanford


http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000314901/article/official-list-of-underclassmen-granted-eligibility-for-2014-nfl-draft

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matt Miller ‏@nfldraftscout 8m
Carr isn't just the best QB here. He's the best player here. Absolutely looks the part of franchise QB.
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Klomp wrote:
Matt Miller ‏@nfldraftscout 8m
Carr isn't just the best QB here. He's the best player here. Absolutely looks the part of franchise QB.


Hearing good things on twitter about Garoppolo, too.

The one thing about Carr, though, is that he should look good in passing drills. It's when he's forced to make throws against defensive pressure and go through his progressions that he struggles.
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jshowers wrote:
Here is an interesting question, who are the guys that for you are just too good to pass up if they fall on draft day, and where they would have to fall to for us to take them, even though we may have little or no need at the position? We are about to go to thread #4 and I thought this would be an interesting way to start it off

For me, the guy is Mike Evans. I've cooled on the idea of picking him at 8 but if he is sliding out of the top 25 picks I'm doing all I can to go get him. This guy is Norv Turner's dream WR. Only seriously been playing the game for 3-4 years and already one of the most physical WRs out there and has outstanding body control. Strong hands. Better athlete than he gets credit for.

Another guy is Eric Ebron. I've never mocked a TE to the Vikes high in the draft, but if Ebron is perhaps not thought of as an elite prospect among NFL scouts and begins to slide towards the end of round 1, early round 2 I want us to hop on. Extremely versatile weapon that has potential as both an in-line and flex tight end. A really good target for a young QB who can threaten at all 3 levels of the field. Him and Rudolph can co-exist.

So who is it for you?


This won't be a popular one, but if Jason Varrett is there at the end of round 1 I would love to see a trade up for him, I think he's gonna be extremely good. He's probably got the best hips out of anybody in the class, and the way he stays glued to a WR with his hand on their hip is simply top tier, great ball skills and athleticism. If he was Dennards height he'd be top 10 easy.

Another guy who might be impossible for me to pass up in round 2 is Davante Adams, I think he could be special.

Agree with you on Ebron.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everyone has insentive to prop up QB that perform at the senior bowl.
Scouts, teams, GM, positional coachs, analysis has insentive to say Johney, Bortles are the best QB in the draft. They want everyone to feel they need to workout.

Its just the way it is.
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Dan Hope ‏@Dan_Hope 10m
Though practice is over, Derek Carr still throwing passes to Jordan Matthews, Cody Hoffman and Mike Davis
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Klomp wrote:
Dan Hope ‏@Dan_Hope 10m
Though practice is over, Derek Carr still throwing passes to Jordan Matthews, Cody Hoffman and Mike Davis

Now he and Matthews are recruiting others.

Love it.
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I am still very interested in Hageman. He is going to bring versatility along the defensive line that I believe Zimmer would love. I honestly believe he could play 1-tech, 3-tech, or even LDE in some situations. He is an absolute freak.
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Senior Bowl source told me Derek Carr outplayed Jimmy Football today and that his passes "cut through the wind" much better.

99.99% positive his "source" is Wobschall.
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I am still very interested in Hageman. He is going to bring versatility along the defensive line that I believe Zimmer would love. I honestly believe he could play 1-tech, 3-tech, or even LDE in some situations. He is an absolute freak.


I agree. I don't think Zimmer is married to the idea of having a true nose tackle. I think Hageman and Floyd could definitely play well alongside each other.
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If Hageman and Floyd teamed up on the interior the responsibilities would affect the rest of the defense. Not saying it's a bad thing, but it is a trickle down affect. You now need one or two true thumper ILBs that can stand up pulling OGs and you need safeties that can handle wider coverage zones. Not opposed, it just makes things a bit harder on the second level of the defense.
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Freakout wrote:
I am still very interested in Hageman. He is going to bring versatility along the defensive line that I believe Zimmer would love. I honestly believe he could play 1-tech, 3-tech, or even LDE in some situations. He is an absolute freak.


Had this feeling for a while, I cooled on him a little when Zimmer was hired. However, after some thought and more evaluation of him, I think he would make a lot of sense. D line is probably our second most important need after QB this offseason and drafting Hageman would give us a stud. I would approve!


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Klomp wrote:
Freakout wrote:
I am still very interested in Hageman. He is going to bring versatility along the defensive line that I believe Zimmer would love. I honestly believe he could play 1-tech, 3-tech, or even LDE in some situations. He is an absolute freak.


I agree. I don't think Zimmer is married to the idea of having a true nose tackle. I think Hageman and Floyd could definitely play well alongside each other.


Doubtful given Zimmers history. He has typically preferred having many big body, classic two gap nose tackles alongside a penetrating UT.

Putting Hageman in a two gap role probably isn't ideal.
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Coaches at the Senior Bowl politely asked Zumwalt to "dial it back" today because he was going too hard. Such an intense player.
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vikingsrule wrote:
Klomp wrote:
Freakout wrote:
I am still very interested in Hageman. He is going to bring versatility along the defensive line that I believe Zimmer would love. I honestly believe he could play 1-tech, 3-tech, or even LDE in some situations. He is an absolute freak.


I agree. I don't think Zimmer is married to the idea of having a true nose tackle. I think Hageman and Floyd could definitely play well alongside each other.


Doubtful given Zimmers history. He has typically preferred having many big body, classic two gap nose tackles alongside a penetrating UT.

Putting Hageman in a two gap role probably isn't ideal.


Zimmer has his NT 2 gap? As far as I knew he runs an even front with 1 gap run fits, never heard that he likes to have his 1 tech 2 gap.
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