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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:45 am    Post subject: Bronco HoF semifinalists Reply with quote

This year's list of semifinalists for the Hall of Fame is out.

Broncos on the list:
Steve Atwater
Terrell Davis
John Lynch
Karl Mecklenburg

http://www.profootballhof.com/enshrinement/2013/11/20/Football-Hall-of-Fame-2014-Semifinalists/
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the page it says that "the list of 25 semifinalists will be reduced by mail ballot to 15 modern-era finalists."

So does that mean that 15 definately get in this year or is the number going to be whittled down further?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BroncoinGermany wrote:
On the page it says that "the list of 25 semifinalists will be reduced by mail ballot to 15 modern-era finalists."

So does that mean that 15 definately get in this year or is the number going to be whittled down further?


The actual number varies each year. Probably only 4-7 will get the necessary votes for induction. There is a LOT of negotiating and arguing behind the scenes. This first phase cut down the list from 126 to 25. Now the battles escalate with each phase of cuts.

Last year the roughly 25 semi-finalists were cut down to about 15-17 finalists and that list was then cut down to the 6 players who were added to the HoF.

If I give odds on who gets in, the favorites look like Derrick Brooks, Marvin Harrison, and Walter Jones. For coaches, Don Coryell might get in. Maybe Jimmy Johnson too. For the Bronco players, John Lynch has a strong shot.

With multiple Broncos in the semi-finalists, I hope at least one is elected.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bobdevine wrote:
BroncoinGermany wrote:
On the page it says that "the list of 25 semifinalists will be reduced by mail ballot to 15 modern-era finalists."

So does that mean that 15 definately get in this year or is the number going to be whittled down further?


The actual number varies each year. Probably only 4-7 will get the necessary votes for induction. There is a LOT of negotiating and arguing behind the scenes. This first phase cut down the list from 126 to 25. Now the battles escalate with each phase of cuts.

Last year the roughly 25 semi-finalists were cut down to about 15-17 finalists and that list was then cut down to the 6 players who were added to the HoF.

If I give odds on who gets in, the favorites look like Derrick Brooks, Marvin Harrison, and Walter Jones. For coaches, Don Coryell might get in. Maybe Jimmy Johnson too. For the Bronco players, John Lynch has a strong shot.

With multiple Broncos in the semi-finalists, I hope at least one is elected.


Thx for the clarification. Lynch should not count as a Bronco, though. He's as much as a Buc as Dawkins will always be an Eagle.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BroncoinGermany wrote:
bobdevine wrote:
BroncoinGermany wrote:
On the page it says that "the list of 25 semifinalists will be reduced by mail ballot to 15 modern-era finalists."

So does that mean that 15 definately get in this year or is the number going to be whittled down further?


The actual number varies each year. Probably only 4-7 will get the necessary votes for induction. There is a LOT of negotiating and arguing behind the scenes. This first phase cut down the list from 126 to 25. Now the battles escalate with each phase of cuts.

Last year the roughly 25 semi-finalists were cut down to about 15-17 finalists and that list was then cut down to the 6 players who were added to the HoF.

If I give odds on who gets in, the favorites look like Derrick Brooks, Marvin Harrison, and Walter Jones. For coaches, Don Coryell might get in. Maybe Jimmy Johnson too. For the Bronco players, John Lynch has a strong shot.

With multiple Broncos in the semi-finalists, I hope at least one is elected.


Thx for the clarification. Lynch should not count as a Bronco, though. He's as much as a Buc as Dawkins will always be an Eagle.


FYI, only in Baseball do you get inducted with a specific team. Football you just go in as a general player with all teams listed.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bobdevine wrote:
BroncoinGermany wrote:
On the page it says that "the list of 25 semifinalists will be reduced by mail ballot to 15 modern-era finalists."

So does that mean that 15 definately get in this year or is the number going to be whittled down further?


The actual number varies each year. Probably only 4-7 will get the necessary votes for induction. There is a LOT of negotiating and arguing behind the scenes. This first phase cut down the list from 126 to 25. Now the battles escalate with each phase of cuts.

Last year the roughly 25 semi-finalists were cut down to about 15-17 finalists and that list was then cut down to the 6 players who were added to the HoF.

If I give odds on who gets in, the favorites look like Derrick Brooks, Marvin Harrison, and Walter Jones. For coaches, Don Coryell might get in. Maybe Jimmy Johnson too. For the Bronco players, John Lynch has a strong shot.

With multiple Broncos in the semi-finalists, I hope at least one is elected.


If John Lynch gets in prior to Atwater, the HOF has just increased it's level of incompetence astronomically.

John Lynch, on his best day would warm the bench behind Atwater. With Atwater and Smith as our safeties he never would have seen the field.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

broncos67 wrote:
BroncoinGermany wrote:
bobdevine wrote:
BroncoinGermany wrote:
On the page it says that "the list of 25 semifinalists will be reduced by mail ballot to 15 modern-era finalists."

So does that mean that 15 definately get in this year or is the number going to be whittled down further?


The actual number varies each year. Probably only 4-7 will get the necessary votes for induction. There is a LOT of negotiating and arguing behind the scenes. This first phase cut down the list from 126 to 25. Now the battles escalate with each phase of cuts.

Last year the roughly 25 semi-finalists were cut down to about 15-17 finalists and that list was then cut down to the 6 players who were added to the HoF.

If I give odds on who gets in, the favorites look like Derrick Brooks, Marvin Harrison, and Walter Jones. For coaches, Don Coryell might get in. Maybe Jimmy Johnson too. For the Bronco players, John Lynch has a strong shot.

With multiple Broncos in the semi-finalists, I hope at least one is elected.


Thx for the clarification. Lynch should not count as a Bronco, though. He's as much as a Buc as Dawkins will always be an Eagle.


FYI, only in Baseball do you get inducted with a specific team. Football you just go in as a general player with all teams listed.

Worst thing about the baseball HOF if you ask me. Such a stupid concept. Who cares who he goes in with?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JerseysFinest27 wrote:
broncos67 wrote:
BroncoinGermany wrote:
bobdevine wrote:
BroncoinGermany wrote:
On the page it says that "the list of 25 semifinalists will be reduced by mail ballot to 15 modern-era finalists."

So does that mean that 15 definately get in this year or is the number going to be whittled down further?


The actual number varies each year. Probably only 4-7 will get the necessary votes for induction. There is a LOT of negotiating and arguing behind the scenes. This first phase cut down the list from 126 to 25. Now the battles escalate with each phase of cuts.

Last year the roughly 25 semi-finalists were cut down to about 15-17 finalists and that list was then cut down to the 6 players who were added to the HoF.

If I give odds on who gets in, the favorites look like Derrick Brooks, Marvin Harrison, and Walter Jones. For coaches, Don Coryell might get in. Maybe Jimmy Johnson too. For the Bronco players, John Lynch has a strong shot.

With multiple Broncos in the semi-finalists, I hope at least one is elected.


Thx for the clarification. Lynch should not count as a Bronco, though. He's as much as a Buc as Dawkins will always be an Eagle.


FYI, only in Baseball do you get inducted with a specific team. Football you just go in as a general player with all teams listed.

Worst thing about the baseball HOF if you ask me. Such a stupid concept. Who cares who he goes in with?


Exactly. If we win a superbowl or two with Manning, he's still going to be a Colt first and foremost, but it would be ridiculous to ignore his stint in Denver.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AKRNA wrote:
If John Lynch gets in prior to Atwater, the HOF has just increased it's level of incompetence astronomically. nch behind Atwater.


Many of the HoF voters are East Coasters who saw more games with Lynch than Atwater.

A player is helped by having a sponsor who advocates for the vote. I think Woody Paige is a voter that might be the sponsor for Bronco players.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always thought John Lynch was pretty bad in Denver. Just my opinion though. He was great in TB
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Atwater was better than what Ed Reed is today. And, I believe he has just as many Pro Bowls. And, he won one Super and was in a couple more than Ed Reed. And, all I have hear about Ed Reed is that he is a first ballot HOFer. Atwater was a Baaaad man; ask Christian Okoye.
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jsthomp2007 wrote:
Atwater was better than what Ed Reed is today. And, I believe he has just as many Pro Bowls. And, he won one Super and was in a couple more than Ed Reed. And, all I have hear about Ed Reed is that he is a first ballot HOFer. Atwater was a Baaaad man; ask Christian Okoye.


Couldn't agree more. Without a doubt the best tackling safety I've ever seen. He was an absolute missile. Excellent in coverage also and quite a deterrent for WR's in crossing patterns.

Just guessing, but I wouldn't be surprised if Atwater had more tackles in his 1st 5 years than either Reed or Lynch did in their careers.
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AKRNA wrote:
jsthomp2007 wrote:
Atwater was better than what Ed Reed is today. And, I believe he has just as many Pro Bowls. And, he won one Super and was in a couple more than Ed Reed. And, all I have hear about Ed Reed is that he is a first ballot HOFer. Atwater was a Baaaad man; ask Christian Okoye.


Couldn't agree more. Without a doubt the best tackling safety I've ever seen. He was an absolute missile. Excellent in coverage also and quite a deterrent for WR's in crossing patterns.

Just guessing, but I wouldn't be surprised if Atwater had more tackles in his 1st 5 years than either Reed or Lynch did in their careers.
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Steven Atwater went about his business very quietly, accept on the field. Him and Dennis Smith come to think of it. Why Dennis Smith is never considered for the HOF, I have no idea. Even Ronnie Lott said Dennis Smith was better than he was.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After the cut down to 15, only John Lynch remains from the Bronco players.
http://www.profootballhof.com/enshrinement/2014/1/9/class-of-2014-finalists-revealed/

Terrell Davis, Steve Atwater, and Karl Mecklenburg didn't make the cut.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bobdevine wrote:
After the cut down to 15, only John Lynch remains from the Bronco players.
http://www.profootballhof.com/enshrinement/2014/1/9/class-of-2014-finalists-revealed/

Terrell Davis, Steve Atwater, and Karl Mecklenburg didn't make the cut.


Lynch is no consolation. I do not even regard him as a Bronco. He is a Buc.
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