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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Today marks 25 years that Jerry has owned the Cowboys! 25 years today!


And nearly 2/3 of his tenure as owner have kept us mired in mediocrity. Hooray.


and the other 1/3, he had us a team for the ages! Hooray!


If you look at Jones tenure from a historical perspective - it is amazing. 3 SB wins in 25 years is fantastic. Most franchises don't have that in their entire tenure.

The biggest issue that occurred was that Jones was too successful too quickly. He flew so close to the sun and basked in it. He fired a HOF coach and replaced him with another one. Within 10 years he had the most wins in a decade and 3 rings with two coaches. Everything he touched turned to gold.

...and then hubris.


I Love Jimmy, but he will never be in the HOF as he didn't coach long enough. Robert Kraft won 3 SB in 6 years. Then the devil ended the deal, and we are left with permanent purgatory until Jerry leaves this earth. Jerry is a great owner and wants to win as much as we do, and feel that they are on the right track as long as he doesn't try to out think himself.
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So NOW JJ says that Red Ball was the OC/playcaller for most of the season. When some of us called BS, that Red Ball was calling plays we were shouted down. This coaching mess is ridiculous.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/article-RowanKavner/Jerry-Jones-Not-Planned-But-Garrett-Was-Coordinator/066d7167-e0c6-48a4-ab9a-12f3044255d6


One thing I'm glad Jerry admitted is that he was too hasty in firing Landry. But if he didn't do that, would Jimmy have been available later on?


He said that he would have had Bum Bright fire Landry instead of having Tex Schram fire him for Jerry. Never said he would keep Landry.


Bum Bright offered to fire Landry, but Jerry wanted to do it himself, probably as a sign of respect. But before he got to Landry news already leaked that he has been fired.

Yep, Landry wasn't being retained but Jones thought if he just waited a year before doing so... But if he did that Jimmy Johnson would have had another gig, probably in Philly to give them 3 SBs lol
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

retrolock wrote:
buckwild wrote:
retrolock wrote:
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So NOW JJ says that Red Ball was the OC/playcaller for most of the season. When some of us called BS, that Red Ball was calling plays we were shouted down. This coaching mess is ridiculous.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/article-RowanKavner/Jerry-Jones-Not-Planned-But-Garrett-Was-Coordinator/066d7167-e0c6-48a4-ab9a-12f3044255d6


One thing I'm glad Jerry admitted is that he was too hasty in firing Landry. But if he didn't do that, would Jimmy have been available later on?


He said that he would have had Bum Bright fire Landry instead of having Tex Schram fire him for Jerry. Never said he would keep Landry.


Bum Bright offered to fire Landry, but Jerry wanted to do it himself, probably as a sign of respect. But before he got to Landry news already leaked that he has been fired.

Yep, Landry wasn't being retained but Jones thought if he just waited a year before doing so... But if he did that Jimmy Johnson would have had another gig, probably in Philly to give them 3 SBs lol


Lets be real here. No one could mess up bad enough to give the Eagles three Super Bowls. It can't be done, even by Jerruh.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well considering Jerruh fired Landry after missing the playoffs 4 out of 5 seasons, I sincerely hope he holds Jason Garrett to that same level of expectation. It's only fair. Not to mention Landry was actually... you know... successful at one point.
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Did everyone see Jerry at the Oscars last night?
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JErry giving up GM responsibilities to SJ and JG?

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What they have done with that latitude is tear down a large part of the team and rebuilt it with younger talent while coming up with a much more sustainable way of handling the salary cap restrictions. This was all done while also trying to remain competitive. They have not succeeded. Yet. But the direction the team is headed and the approach being taken are very encouraging, and nothing is more encouraging that the decisions and actions taken during free agency this season. It was done according to a plan and concept clearly stated by Stephen Jones, and so far the Cowboys have not made any discernible mistakes. If you listen to Stephen, you can see exactly what the team is doing and what it will do. If you listen to Jerry Jones, you will just get lost in the fog of verbosity. But many people still insist that Jerry is calling the shots and Stephen and Jason are just the puppets dancing on his strings.

I don't see how this can be explained away. The most important negotiation for Dallas in free agency, and the subject of the negotiation says he never spoke to or saw Jerry Jones. Something seems to have seriously changed. This is not Jerry Jones taking advice. This is him letting go of the reins.

And it is a very, very good thing.

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2014/3/19/5528266/dallas-cowboys-henry-melton-free-agent-signing-welcome-to-the-future

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They said yesterday that Jerry is on vacation in Europe, and that is why he wasn't involved in the negotiations. That the deciding factor for him signing in Dallas was Rod, and that Stephen and Melton's agent negotiated the deal.
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They said yesterday that Jerry is on vacation in Europe, and that is why he wasn't involved in the negotiations. That the deciding factor for him signing in Dallas was Rod, and that Stephen and Melton's agent negotiated the deal.


Yeah, Melton himself said he needed Rod to get him back to his prime. He also said that it felt good being "home" and he knew as soon as he landed that Dallas was his #1.
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They said yesterday that Jerry is on vacation in Europe, and that is why he wasn't involved in the negotiations. That the deciding factor for him signing in Dallas was Rod, and that Stephen and Melton's agent negotiated the deal.


That's our GM. FA opens so he takes a vacation to Europe. NICE
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buckwild wrote:
They said yesterday that Jerry is on vacation in Europe, and that is why he wasn't involved in the negotiations. That the deciding factor for him signing in Dallas was Rod, and that Stephen and Melton's agent negotiated the deal.


That's our GM. FA opens so he takes a vacation to Europe. NICE


Just like our HoF TE and Top 10 QB in the league going on vacay once the postseason begins. Embarassed
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They said yesterday that Jerry is on vacation in Europe, and that is why he wasn't involved in the negotiations. That the deciding factor for him signing in Dallas was Rod, and that Stephen and Melton's agent negotiated the deal.


That's our GM. FA opens so he takes a vacation to Europe. NICE


I thought we didn't want Jerry as GM...
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The_Slamman wrote:
buckwild wrote:
They said yesterday that Jerry is on vacation in Europe, and that is why he wasn't involved in the negotiations. That the deciding factor for him signing in Dallas was Rod, and that Stephen and Melton's agent negotiated the deal.


That's our GM. FA opens so he takes a vacation to Europe. NICE


And things have gone really well. What's the problem? You don't like it that Jerry has undeniably ceded quite a bit of power to Stephen and others?
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The_Slamman wrote:
buckwild wrote:
They said yesterday that Jerry is on vacation in Europe, and that is why he wasn't involved in the negotiations. That the deciding factor for him signing in Dallas was Rod, and that Stephen and Melton's agent negotiated the deal.


That's our GM. FA opens so he takes a vacation to Europe. NICE


And things have gone really well. What's the problem? You don't like it that Jerry has undeniably ceded quite a bit of power to Stephen and others?


He mad cuz Jason G has more power now. In essence that could mean that he stays around a lil longer.
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htfryar wrote:
The_Slamman wrote:
buckwild wrote:
They said yesterday that Jerry is on vacation in Europe, and that is why he wasn't involved in the negotiations. That the deciding factor for him signing in Dallas was Rod, and that Stephen and Melton's agent negotiated the deal.


That's our GM. FA opens so he takes a vacation to Europe. NICE


And things have gone really well. What's the problem? You don't like it that Jerry has undeniably ceded quite a bit of power to Stephen and others?


Slam just isn't comfortable with sober Jerry so he takes a shot at him regardless lol.

But this is a good thing, most of you guys want JG in the FO right, but not coaching. Maybe this is him starting his new and right job.
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What they have done with that latitude is tear down a large part of the team and rebuilt it with younger talent while coming up with a much more sustainable way of handling the salary cap restrictions. This was all done while also trying to remain competitive. They have not succeeded. Yet. But the direction the team is headed and the approach being taken are very encouraging, and nothing is more encouraging that the decisions and actions taken during free agency this season. It was done according to a plan and concept clearly stated by Stephen Jones, and so far the Cowboys have not made any discernible mistakes. If you listen to Stephen, you can see exactly what the team is doing and what it will do. If you listen to Jerry Jones, you will just get lost in the fog of verbosity. But many people still insist that Jerry is calling the shots and Stephen and Jason are just the puppets dancing on his strings.

I don't see how this can be explained away. The most important negotiation for Dallas in free agency, and the subject of the negotiation says he never spoke to or saw Jerry Jones. Something seems to have seriously changed. This is not Jerry Jones taking advice. This is him letting go of the reins.

And it is a very, very good thing.

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2014/3/19/5528266/dallas-cowboys-henry-melton-free-agent-signing-welcome-to-the-future


A viewpoint I have presented for sometime now. Jerry's power hold is decreasing.
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