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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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We're stuck with Baker AT LEAST for next season unless he gets injured again, which very well could happen. If we pass on Clowney or Barr, we would regret it trust me. How often do we pick top 5? How often does a player like Clowney come around? Not often. We can address the OL situation in round 2 if we're lucky enough Richardson/Jackson falls to us in the 2nd (we still will be picking high remember). Then sign a FA like Oher to play RT or Mack who would play C. There are tons of scenarios where we can fix the OL via FA/draft but we MUST take Clowney or Barr if they are there.


What happens if I dont want to trust you? If Clowney is available, id say we have to go with him, however its extremely unlikely that he is.

Baker doesnt impact what we do at tackle at all. if he plays well, then he can stay at left while whoever we draft either develops as a backup or plays on the right for a while. If he doesnt Baker can go to RT.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SpoonFed56 wrote:
GSUeagles14 wrote:
SpoonFed56 wrote:
We're stuck with Baker AT LEAST for next season unless he gets injured again, which very well could happen. If we pass on Clowney or Barr, we would regret it trust me. How often do we pick top 5? How often does a player like Clowney come around? Not often. We can address the OL situation in round 2 if we're lucky enough Richardson/Jackson falls to us in the 2nd (we still will be picking high remember). Then sign a FA like Oher to play RT or Mack who would play C. There are tons of scenarios where we can fix the OL via FA/draft but we MUST take Clowney or Barr if they are there.


What happens if I dont want to trust you? If Clowney is available, id say we have to go with him, however its extremely unlikely that he is.

Baker doesnt impact what we do at tackle at all. if he plays well, then he can stay at left while whoever we draft either develops as a backup or plays on the right for a while. If he doesnt Baker can go to RT.


I could give two [inappropriate/removed] if you want to trust me or not


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lentz33 wrote:
SpoonFed56 wrote:
GSUeagles14 wrote:
SpoonFed56 wrote:
We're stuck with Baker AT LEAST for next season unless he gets injured again, which very well could happen. If we pass on Clowney or Barr, we would regret it trust me. How often do we pick top 5? How often does a player like Clowney come around? Not often. We can address the OL situation in round 2 if we're lucky enough Richardson/Jackson falls to us in the 2nd (we still will be picking high remember). Then sign a FA like Oher to play RT or Mack who would play C. There are tons of scenarios where we can fix the OL via FA/draft but we MUST take Clowney or Barr if they are there.


What happens if I dont want to trust you? If Clowney is available, id say we have to go with him, however its extremely unlikely that he is.

Baker doesnt impact what we do at tackle at all. if he plays well, then he can stay at left while whoever we draft either develops as a backup or plays on the right for a while. If he doesnt Baker can go to RT.


I could give two [inappropriate/removed] if you want to trust me or not



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GSUeagles14 wrote:
Lentz33 wrote:
SpoonFed56 wrote:
GSUeagles14 wrote:
SpoonFed56 wrote:
We're stuck with Baker AT LEAST for next season unless he gets injured again, which very well could happen. If we pass on Clowney or Barr, we would regret it trust me. How often do we pick top 5? How often does a player like Clowney come around? Not often. We can address the OL situation in round 2 if we're lucky enough Richardson/Jackson falls to us in the 2nd (we still will be picking high remember). Then sign a FA like Oher to play RT or Mack who would play C. There are tons of scenarios where we can fix the OL via FA/draft but we MUST take Clowney or Barr if they are there.


What happens if I dont want to trust you? If Clowney is available, id say we have to go with him, however its extremely unlikely that he is.

Baker doesnt impact what we do at tackle at all. if he plays well, then he can stay at left while whoever we draft either develops as a backup or plays on the right for a while. If he doesnt Baker can go to RT.


I could give two [inappropriate/removed] if you want to trust me or not



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GSUeagles14 wrote:
Lentz33 wrote:
SpoonFed56 wrote:
GSUeagles14 wrote:
SpoonFed56 wrote:
We're stuck with Baker AT LEAST for next season unless he gets injured again, which very well could happen. If we pass on Clowney or Barr, we would regret it trust me. How often do we pick top 5? How often does a player like Clowney come around? Not often. We can address the OL situation in round 2 if we're lucky enough Richardson/Jackson falls to us in the 2nd (we still will be picking high remember). Then sign a FA like Oher to play RT or Mack who would play C. There are tons of scenarios where we can fix the OL via FA/draft but we MUST take Clowney or Barr if they are there.


What happens if I dont want to trust you? If Clowney is available, id say we have to go with him, however its extremely unlikely that he is.

Baker doesnt impact what we do at tackle at all. if he plays well, then he can stay at left while whoever we draft either develops as a backup or plays on the right for a while. If he doesnt Baker can go to RT.


I could give two [inappropriate/removed] if you want to trust me or not



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If Clowney is available, id say we have to go with him, however its extremely unlikely that he is.


Hey, GSU, how about you explain to me why it is so unlikely that Clowney will be unavailable... oh and don't forget to back your claim up with "facts and logic" Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SpoonFed56 wrote:
GSUeagles14 wrote:
If Clowney is available, id say we have to go with him, however its extremely unlikely that he is.


Hey, GSU, how about you explain to me why it is so unlikely that Clowney will be unavailable... oh and don't forget to back your claim up with "facts and logic" Laughing Laughing Laughing


we lose out and we pretty much got him lol
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SpoonFed56 wrote:
GSUeagles14 wrote:
If Clowney is available, id say we have to go with him, however its extremely unlikely that he is.


Hey, GSU, how about you explain to me why it is so unlikely that Clowney will be unavailable... oh and don't forget to back your claim up with "facts and logic" Laughing Laughing Laughing


That's easy, he's pretty much consensusly the best player in the draftl, even of you put Bridgewater ahead of him due to positional value, it'd be a pretty big shock fir him to slip past two.

Right now we pick 3rd I believe.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GSUeagles14 wrote:
SpoonFed56 wrote:
GSUeagles14 wrote:
If Clowney is available, id say we have to go with him, however its extremely unlikely that he is.


Hey, GSU, how about you explain to me why it is so unlikely that Clowney will be unavailable... oh and don't forget to back your claim up with "facts and logic" Laughing Laughing Laughing


That's easy, he's pretty much consensusly the best player in the draftl, even of you put Bridgewater ahead of him due to positional value, it'd be a pretty big shock fir him to slip past two.

Right now we pick 3rd I believe.
and depending on who picks ahead of us, they could go Jake MAtthews or a QB instead of Clowney.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

scar988 wrote:
GSUeagles14 wrote:
SpoonFed56 wrote:
GSUeagles14 wrote:
If Clowney is available, id say we have to go with him, however its extremely unlikely that he is.


Hey, GSU, how about you explain to me why it is so unlikely that Clowney will be unavailable... oh and don't forget to back your claim up with "facts and logic" Laughing Laughing Laughing


That's easy, he's pretty much consensusly the best player in the draftl, even of you put Bridgewater ahead of him due to positional value, it'd be a pretty big shock fir him to slip past two.

Right now we pick 3rd I believe.
and depending on who picks ahead of us, they could go Jake MAtthews or a QB instead of Clowney.


Exactly, the teams that are ahead of us don't necessarily need Clowney. Jags need a QB and we may be picking 2nd if TB beats us. TB could also go QB because they will have a new head coach.

I still rather trade back for more picks though. Clowney is good no doubt, but he needs help to be dominant and our Dline can't really help him as is. He would be a better player on a team that has a pretty good DT and solid DE already. I wouldn't be mad if we got Clowney but trading down is my preference and then going BPA. (Nix, Lewan.....)
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Exactly, the teams that are ahead of us don't necessarily need Clowney. Jags need a QB and we may be picking 2nd if TB beats us. TB could also go QB because they will have a new head coach.

I still rather trade back for more picks though. Clowney is good no doubt, but he needs help to be dominant and our Dline can't really help him as is. He would be a better player on a team that has a pretty good DT and solid DE already. I wouldn't be mad if we got Clowney but trading down is my preference and then going BPA. (Nix, Lewan.....)


I would not be totally against trading back, it would be pretty nice to grab some extra picks to move back a few picks but still pick top-10. I wouldn't trade back past 15 IMO. Even at 15 I would be a little weary.
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Exactly, the teams that are ahead of us don't necessarily need Clowney. Jags need a QB and we may be picking 2nd if TB beats us. TB could also go QB because they will have a new head coach.

I still rather trade back for more picks though. Clowney is good no doubt, but he needs help to be dominant and our Dline can't really help him as is. He would be a better player on a team that has a pretty good DT and solid DE already. I wouldn't be mad if we got Clowney but trading down is my preference and then going BPA. (Nix, Lewan.....)


I would not be totally against trading back, it would be pretty nice to grab some extra picks to move back a few picks but still pick top-10. I wouldn't trade back past 15 IMO. Even at 15 I would be a little weary.


I agree, unless the team past 15 gave us a Julio Jones type deal.
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tech2186 wrote:
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tech2186 wrote:
Exactly, the teams that are ahead of us don't necessarily need Clowney. Jags need a QB and we may be picking 2nd if TB beats us. TB could also go QB because they will have a new head coach.

I still rather trade back for more picks though. Clowney is good no doubt, but he needs help to be dominant and our Dline can't really help him as is. He would be a better player on a team that has a pretty good DT and solid DE already. I wouldn't be mad if we got Clowney but trading down is my preference and then going BPA. (Nix, Lewan.....)


I would not be totally against trading back, it would be pretty nice to grab some extra picks to move back a few picks but still pick top-10. I wouldn't trade back past 15 IMO. Even at 15 I would be a little weary.


I agree, unless the team past 15 gave us a Julio Jones type deal.


Where do you see Cleveland finishing? I would think they need a QB and since we've done business with them in the past, maybe we can strike something up.
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tech2186 wrote:
scar988 wrote:
GSUeagles14 wrote:
SpoonFed56 wrote:
GSUeagles14 wrote:
If Clowney is available, id say we have to go with him, however its extremely unlikely that he is.


Hey, GSU, how about you explain to me why it is so unlikely that Clowney will be unavailable... oh and don't forget to back your claim up with "facts and logic" Laughing Laughing Laughing


That's easy, he's pretty much consensusly the best player in the draftl, even of you put Bridgewater ahead of him due to positional value, it'd be a pretty big shock fir him to slip past two.

Right now we pick 3rd I believe.
and depending on who picks ahead of us, they could go Jake MAtthews or a QB instead of Clowney.


Exactly, the teams that are ahead of us don't necessarily need Clowney. Jags need a QB and we may be picking 2nd if TB beats us. TB could also go QB because they will have a new head coach.

I still rather trade back for more picks though. Clowney is good no doubt, but he needs help to be dominant and our Dline can't really help him as is. He would be a better player on a team that has a pretty good DT and solid DE already. I wouldn't be mad if we got Clowney but trading down is my preference and then going BPA. (Nix, Lewan.....)

Clowney would have that help... Osi, Peters, Spoon, Biermann, Joplo... and that's not including potentially bringing back Walker
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scar988 wrote:
GSUeagles14 wrote:
SpoonFed56 wrote:
GSUeagles14 wrote:
If Clowney is available, id say we have to go with him, however its extremely unlikely that he is.


Hey, GSU, how about you explain to me why it is so unlikely that Clowney will be unavailable... oh and don't forget to back your claim up with "facts and logic" Laughing Laughing Laughing


That's easy, he's pretty much consensusly the best player in the draftl, even of you put Bridgewater ahead of him due to positional value, it'd be a pretty big shock fir him to slip past two.

Right now we pick 3rd I believe.
and depending on who picks ahead of us, they could go Jake MAtthews or a QB instead of Clowney.


Yes, they could... its the draft. However, what I said still is true. Clowney is almost consensusly the best player in the draft. While he could slip, its not likely.
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