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Should we sign him to an extension?
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Tzimisce


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The question isn't whether, the question is how big. If the Pats have to choose between retaining Talib and extending McCourty, then they have to go with McCourty.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tzimisce wrote:
The question isn't whether, the question is how big. If the Pats have to choose between retaining Talib and extending McCourty, then you have to go with McCourty.


I doubt that it's a one for one calculus. They could have them both on the books at high salaries in 2015 but it probably means going cheap on the interior OL and RB (i.e. replacing Mankins, Connolly and Ridley with cheap vets or draft picks)
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mcmurtry86 wrote:
Tzimisce wrote:
The question isn't whether, the question is how big. If the Pats have to choose between retaining Talib and extending McCourty, then you have to go with McCourty.


I doubt that it's a one for one calculus. They could have them both on the books at high salaries in 2015 but it probably means going cheap on the interior OL and RB (i.e. replacing Mankins, Connolly and Ridley with cheap vets or draft picks)
Which I'm fairly certain they were gonna do anyway.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really hope they don't replace Ridley if they do no matter how good this defense is they won't have a shot. They wont have to worry about this any way the CAPS going to go way up after next year.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For me, yes as long as Talib shows that he can remain healthy for the remained of the season. Sure he has questionable off the field issues, as well as his personality, but I think the reason why he chose the small deal this offseason is to show Belichick as well as Pats fans that he is a different football player and he wants to prove it by not worrying about the money and just balling his heart out for the team first. So far hes done that, and this season is arguably one of the best corners in the league. Right now I dont think we have anyone that can take Talib's spot if we let him walk, nor do I see any upcoming FA corners that will be better than him.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't know, I get a weird feeling that Talib loves it here. Just a good fit for him has a football player and a person. Everything I read says he's a leader in the locker room too.

Call me naive, but it's just one of those feelings. He hated his time in Tampa. He could have went elsewhere this past off season but chose to come back.

Can't let him go though, he'll get franchised if it comes down to it.

Agree. He's always talking about how much he loves the locker room and the guys he's playing with on defense. Also I think he would have left us this past offseason if he didn't like it here but he came back with a cheap one year deal to prove himself. Shows how much be wants to be a Patriot.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

terbo559 wrote:
For me, yes as long as Talib shows that he can remain healthy for the remained of the season. Sure he has questionable off the field issues, as well as his personality, but I think the reason why he chose the small deal this offseason is to show Belichick as well as Pats fans that he is a different football player and he wants to prove it by not worrying about the money and just balling his heart out for the team first. So far hes done that, and this season is arguably one of the best corners in the league. Right now I dont think we have anyone that can take Talib's spot if we let him walk, nor do I see any upcoming FA corners that will be better than him.


Isn't the most likely explanation that Talib took the short deal because he knew that if he stayed out of trouble and avoided major injury he would get a huge offer from somewhere next year?

Let's not forget that the Pats (reportedly) gave him a multi year offer which he turned down. That tells me that he wants the biggest payday possible and his best shot of that was playing 2013 on a one year deal and convincing the league he is past his problems.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TKOhitter8737 wrote:
I really hope they don't replace Ridley if they do no matter how good this defense is they won't have a shot. They wont have to worry about this any way the CAPS going to go way up after next year.


How many backs justify their 2nd contract? Very few, other than guys who are specialists (3rd down types like Sproles) and a few very elite talents.

It's tough to imagine Ridley being productive enough in 2016 or 2017 to warrant a multi-year re-signing.

RB is fungible to the point where I would think/hope they can find a replacement with 2 offseasons to look for it.
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