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lumberjackchris


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please don't let this come down to a Bullock kick....
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Biggest play of the game. Lets see what Keenum can do!
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh well, win/ win. We showed promise again and we protected our draft position!
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lumberjackchris wrote:
Oh well, win/ win. We showed promise again and we protected our draft position!


LMAO... Just what I was thinking!

New coaching staff next season... high draft pick.... 3 compensatory picks.... Schedule of a losing team... I honestly think we will rebound IMMENSELY next season.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lumberjackchris wrote:
Oh well, win/ win. We showed promise again and we protected our draft position!


Too bad we going to miss a chance of picking in the top 5 since we play the Raiders and Jags the next 2 weeks.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jch1911 wrote:
lumberjackchris wrote:
Oh well, win/ win. We showed promise again and we protected our draft position!


LMAO... Just what I was thinking!

New coaching staff next season... high draft pick.... 3 compensatory picks.... Schedule of a losing team... I honestly think we will rebound IMMENSELY next season.


Where are you getting 3 comp picks?
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Texansfan713 wrote:
lumberjackchris wrote:
Oh well, win/ win. We showed promise again and we protected our draft position!


Too bad we going to miss a chance of picking in the top 5 since we play the Raiders and Jags the next 2 weeks.


Idk, I think we have shots of losing both. We are on a 7 game losing streak, and are pretty close to being 0-9 on the season.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ugh the secondary and lbs are terrible......rt is a major issue....case needs to improve on quick slants with all these overload blitzes
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Good game you guys. And teach Keenam a little more arm strength and I think he can be special
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keenum looked really good. There was a lot to like from him in this past game and I am jealous that you guys have a talented young QB on your roster.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Through 3 games Keenum has played very well. His mistakes can be corrected, such as the last series, but Im starting to think we dont need to address QB in round 1 since most likely we will get a top 10 pick. The needs the Texans should address before QB.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Texansfan713 wrote:
Through 3 games Keenum has played very well. His mistakes can be corrected, such as the last series, but Im starting to think we dont need to address QB in round 1 since most likely we will get a top 10 pick. The needs the Texans should address before QB.

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Are they any good safeties in the draft this year? Or do we have the cap space to go after jarius byrd? I'm so hoping we have a shot to draft matthews or lewan in the 1st.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We need a top 5 QB pick
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Pastor Dillon wrote:
We need a top 5 QB pick


I disagree. Let Keenum do it. Get him an RT, a sparking offensive weapon (a homerun hitting RB) and fix the defense.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lumberjackchris wrote:
jch1911 wrote:
lumberjackchris wrote:
Oh well, win/ win. We showed promise again and we protected our draft position!


LMAO... Just what I was thinking!

New coaching staff next season... high draft pick.... 3 compensatory picks.... Schedule of a losing team... I honestly think we will rebound IMMENSELY next season.


Where are you getting 3 comp picks?


I don't know protocol about linking to other Texans' fan forums... but a fellow Texans' fan did a pretty thorough analysis over at Texans Talk

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We just need to start tallying a list of additions and free agent subtractions (guys who weren't cut) to see what we're working with. Then go after financials to estimate their value.

Free Agent Losses (6 qualifying):
Connor Barwin (6 years, 6 APY) 4th
Glover Quin (5 years, 4.7 APY ) 5th
James Casey (3 years, 4 APY) 5th
Justin Forsett (2 years, 1 APY) 7th
Alan Ball (2 years, 1 APY) 7th
Donnie Jones (1 year, 905k) 7th
Shayne Graham (1 year, minimum) nada
Rashad Butler (1 year, 715k) zilch

Free Agent Adds (3 qualifying):
March 28, 2013 Signed RB Greg Jones. (1 year, 1m APY) 7th
March 23, 2013 Signed P Shane Lechler. (3 years, 1.833 APY) 7th
March 23, 2013 Signed S Ed Reed. (3 years, 5 APY) 4th
May 15, 2013 Signed C Tyler Horn. (minimum) nada

If they grade Barwin on the APY, then he's definitely a 4th, if they grade him on guaranteed money, then he's a 5th/6th. His contract is wacky because it's so long, and it's heavily backloaded. I'll project a 4th here just for the heck of it, cause I'm pretty sure Ed Reed's deal will cancel it out either way.

Glover Quin and Ed Reed are right at the 4th/5th cutoff line. Last year it was right around 4.75million APY, but the lines generally move slightly higher each year. So they could both be rated a 5th, I don't know, it just depends. I would lean towards a 4th for Reed and a 5th for Quin.

Casey is in the low end of the 5th round range.

Forsett, Jones and Ball are all solidly in the 7th range.

The other guys listed are just to show that I am aware of them, and they do not affect the picks as far as I know. If anyone has more info on them, go ahead and post it.

So that's 6 adds, and 3 losses that qualify. I think Barwin and Reed cancel each other out. I think Jones and Lechler cancel out Ball and Forsett. And I think we end up with two 5ths for Quin and Casey, and a 7th for Jones. So 3 compensatory picks should be coming our way to help the new regime right the ship. Not too shabby.

All done.
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