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Who's our best running back?
Stevan Ridley
83%
 83%  [ 26 ]
Shane Vereen
16%
 16%  [ 5 ]
LaGarrette Blount
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Brandon Bolden
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NextBigThing wrote:
Thought Vereen was poised for a mega season.


He may well be.

He played in one game and was arguably the best offensive player during that game.

Will he accumulate crazy bulk stats? Nah. But if he can be as impactful as he was in week 1, for the rest of the year, that's a "mega season" easily.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

24isthelaw wrote:
NextBigThing wrote:
Thought Vereen was poised for a mega season.


He may well be.

He played in one game and was arguably the best offensive player during that game.
And as of that Sunday night, Vereen had arguably the best week 1 of any RB. He led RBs in rushing yards until McCoy's monster Monday night game, and Vereen had the best YPC even after McCoy's game. It really was everything you'd expect from the start to a breakout season.

...and then he realized his wrist was broken.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sciz wrote:
24isthelaw wrote:
NextBigThing wrote:
Thought Vereen was poised for a mega season.


He may well be.

He played in one game and was arguably the best offensive player during that game.
And as of that Sunday night, Vereen had arguably the best week 1 of any RB. He led RBs in rushing yards until McCoy's monster Monday night game, and Vereen had the best YPC even after McCoy's game. It really was everything you'd expect from the start to a breakout season.

...and then he realized his wrist was broken.


I think he's on the verge of game-changer status as a player. My hate has grown drastically to pure pimpin' love for him, as I wasn't a fan of him as a prospect.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

24isthelaw wrote:
TomRalph wrote:
Hopefully Vereen can help our RZ running problems. Vereen is money when it comes to 1 yard TD runs. Much better than anyone else on the roster.


I'd take Ridley 1st. Ridley has great vision and patience... if there's a hole he usually hits it. His best trait is his ability to use blocking well, which to me is reliability.

Vereen may be too, and in general I'd rather have Vereen out due to all the other stuff he can do, but the sample size we have of Ridley getting tough yards makes him the choice for me for RZ carries.


Vereen when on the GL seemed to be the 1st choice when he's healthy, his ability to catch out of the backfield and shiftiness through tiny holes seems to be the reason he was above Ridley in those situations.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love Vereen's versatility. Especially as a pass-catcher and not just a Sproles-esque dump-offs/screens type. We've seen several times recently that he's trusted to actually run routes down-field and has good, natural hands. Can't wait to see him fit again.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel like Vereen is more than a RB, he is an offensive weapon
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

better than LT himself
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TomRalph wrote:
24isthelaw wrote:
TomRalph wrote:
Hopefully Vereen can help our RZ running problems. Vereen is money when it comes to 1 yard TD runs. Much better than anyone else on the roster.


I'd take Ridley 1st. Ridley has great vision and patience... if there's a hole he usually hits it. His best trait is his ability to use blocking well, which to me is reliability.

Vereen may be too, and in general I'd rather have Vereen out due to all the other stuff he can do, but the sample size we have of Ridley getting tough yards makes him the choice for me for RZ carries.


Vereen when on the GL seemed to be the 1st choice when he's healthy, his ability to catch out of the backfield and shiftiness through tiny holes seems to be the reason he was above Ridley in those situations.

You mean the game that Ridley got benched it they almost lost that game because they couldn't score inside the 5.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ridley is the guy Vereen played great in the 1st game, but lets face it was against buffalo! Ridley before getting benched had 50 yards on 10 carries.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ridley is the better runner, Vereen is the better weapon.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PatriotsWin! wrote:
Ridley is the better runner, Vereen is the better weapon.


I wouldn't say Ridley is clearly the better runner. Vereen has great vision and zoom through holes and runs with pretty good power and push for his size as well. If anything, Ridley may be more built to carry the load and take punishment. That's the only push he has on Vereen in my opinion.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TKOhitter8737 wrote:
TomRalph wrote:
24isthelaw wrote:
TomRalph wrote:
Hopefully Vereen can help our RZ running problems. Vereen is money when it comes to 1 yard TD runs. Much better than anyone else on the roster.


I'd take Ridley 1st. Ridley has great vision and patience... if there's a hole he usually hits it. His best trait is his ability to use blocking well, which to me is reliability.

Vereen may be too, and in general I'd rather have Vereen out due to all the other stuff he can do, but the sample size we have of Ridley getting tough yards makes him the choice for me for RZ carries.


Vereen when on the GL seemed to be the 1st choice when he's healthy, his ability to catch out of the backfield and shiftiness through tiny holes seems to be the reason he was above Ridley in those situations.

You mean the game that Ridley got benched it they almost lost that game because they couldn't score inside the 5.


Yeah I mean that one game where Vereen had a broken wrist as opposed to his entire career with the Patriots... Rolling Eyes
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TomRalph wrote:
TKOhitter8737 wrote:
TomRalph wrote:
24isthelaw wrote:
TomRalph wrote:
Hopefully Vereen can help our RZ running problems. Vereen is money when it comes to 1 yard TD runs. Much better than anyone else on the roster.


I'd take Ridley 1st. Ridley has great vision and patience... if there's a hole he usually hits it. His best trait is his ability to use blocking well, which to me is reliability.

Vereen may be too, and in general I'd rather have Vereen out due to all the other stuff he can do, but the sample size we have of Ridley getting tough yards makes him the choice for me for RZ carries.


Vereen when on the GL seemed to be the 1st choice when he's healthy, his ability to catch out of the backfield and shiftiness through tiny holes seems to be the reason he was above Ridley in those situations.

You mean the game that Ridley got benched it they almost lost that game because they couldn't score inside the 5.


Yeah I mean that one game where Vereen had a broken wrist as opposed to his entire career with the Patriots... Rolling Eyes


FWIW, Ridley had 20 carries at or inside the 5 last year (8 TD's), Vereen had 5 carries (3 TD's).
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mcmurtry86 wrote:
TomRalph wrote:
TKOhitter8737 wrote:
TomRalph wrote:
24isthelaw wrote:
TomRalph wrote:
Hopefully Vereen can help our RZ running problems. Vereen is money when it comes to 1 yard TD runs. Much better than anyone else on the roster.


I'd take Ridley 1st. Ridley has great vision and patience... if there's a hole he usually hits it. His best trait is his ability to use blocking well, which to me is reliability.

Vereen may be too, and in general I'd rather have Vereen out due to all the other stuff he can do, but the sample size we have of Ridley getting tough yards makes him the choice for me for RZ carries.


Vereen when on the GL seemed to be the 1st choice when he's healthy, his ability to catch out of the backfield and shiftiness through tiny holes seems to be the reason he was above Ridley in those situations.

You mean the game that Ridley got benched it they almost lost that game because they couldn't score inside the 5.


Yeah I mean that one game where Vereen had a broken wrist as opposed to his entire career with the Patriots... Rolling Eyes


FWIW, Ridley had 20 carries at or inside the 5 last year (8 TD's), Vereen had 5 carries (3 TD's).


What about RB catches inside the RZ and inside the 5? I seem to recall Vereen had a couple of short REC TD's.
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TomRalph wrote:
mcmurtry86 wrote:
TomRalph wrote:
TKOhitter8737 wrote:
TomRalph wrote:
24isthelaw wrote:
TomRalph wrote:
Hopefully Vereen can help our RZ running problems. Vereen is money when it comes to 1 yard TD runs. Much better than anyone else on the roster.


I'd take Ridley 1st. Ridley has great vision and patience... if there's a hole he usually hits it. His best trait is his ability to use blocking well, which to me is reliability.

Vereen may be too, and in general I'd rather have Vereen out due to all the other stuff he can do, but the sample size we have of Ridley getting tough yards makes him the choice for me for RZ carries.


Vereen when on the GL seemed to be the 1st choice when he's healthy, his ability to catch out of the backfield and shiftiness through tiny holes seems to be the reason he was above Ridley in those situations.

You mean the game that Ridley got benched it they almost lost that game because they couldn't score inside the 5.


Yeah I mean that one game where Vereen had a broken wrist as opposed to his entire career with the Patriots... Rolling Eyes


FWIW, Ridley had 20 carries at or inside the 5 last year (8 TD's), Vereen had 5 carries (3 TD's).


What about RB catches inside the RZ and inside the 5? I seem to recall Vereen had a couple of short REC TD's.


Vereen has 0 catches inside the 5. He has 3 career receiving TD's (including playoffs), 83 yards, 33 yards, 8 yards.
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