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Dirk Gently


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:51 pm    Post subject: This game was Romo's fault Reply with quote

Not really, but if you want to be critical of the guy, here's one he absolutely blew, courtesy of Bryan Broaddus. Romo, on 3rd down of the next to the last drive, throws the ball away. Had he taken the sack (just had to give himself up... no need to get hit) the clock stays running and Detroit has to use a time out or Dallas doesn't punt till the two minute warning.

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Romo in a careless maneuver, fires the ball out of bounds instead of getting on the ground, taking the sack and making the Lions have to use their 2nd timeout or carry it down to the two minute warning.


There's a real mental error in the 4th qtr of a tight game for y'all to chew on.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Talent + passion + intelligence = winner.

We are big on 1, lean on 2 and nonexistant on 3.

Any questions?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rtnldave wrote:
Talent + passion + intelligence = winner.

We are big on 1, lean on 2 and nonexistant on 3.

Any questions?


Yes. What?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish we had a QB who can make all the throws. Has anyone noticed that Romo hasn't made as many long passes? I'm getting tired of these 1 and 2 yard passes.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scrambol2000 wrote:
I wish we had a QB who can make all the throws. Has anyone noticed that Romo hasn't made as many long passes? I'm getting tired of these 1 and 2 yard passes.


Say what?? Confused

He can make all the throws....but play calling is a factor. Now saying he can make all the throws is one thing....why he has been off a bit during some stretches of the game is the question.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Texas_OutLaw7 wrote:
Rtnldave wrote:
Talent + passion + intelligence = winner.

We are big on 1, lean on 2 and nonexistant on 3.

Any questions?


Yes. What?



Ok:

Talent is number 1. This team has talent Romo, Witten, Dez, Lee, Ware, Claiborne, Smith, Fredrick, Williams. We got some talent here.

Passion is number 2. We are lean on that. The only guy I used to see get fired up like Dez was Barber III. He used to get this whole team fired up when he steamrolled someone. Now, it's like: "Oh gee Wally, we lost another double digit lead in the 4th quarter. Don't worry Beav, mom made brownies! Oh, I guess its ok then." WE NEED MORE PASSION DARN IT!

Intelligence is number 3. If they gave out awards for the most bone-headed mistakes that cost a team a game, Dallas would win hands down for the past several years. Do to play calling, execution, not knowing what to do when the heat is on, etc, etc, etc. This team simply does N-O-T P-L-A-Y S-M-A-R-T football, PERIOD! That alone cost us 2 games this season already Den, Det.

Smart play- check down to a WIDE OPEN Murray.
Not smart play- throw into a pile of players and hope for the best. Yeah, I get the "foot thing." Bullocks!

Smart play- Take the sack and force Det to call aTO or take it to the 2 minute warning.
Not smart play- throw it out of bounds and stop the clock.

Smart play- third and long, running game ineffective, take a knee and run the clock to under a minute.

Not smart play- try to run the ball again after your previous 2 attempts only pushed you backwards, thus resulting in a holding call stopping the clock. Could have been a fumble. Take a knee and let the clock run down. Simple, oldest play in the book.

They simply GIVE the other teams a chance to win when they do not have to.

Just not smart.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No single play cost us this game.

It was a collection of plays during a 58 minute span that did so.

A penalty. A blown coverage, or rather 14 of them. A thrown away ball. A missed blitz pick up. A bad route. A dropped ball. All that and more contributed to the loss. It wasn't just one play or one player, but a collection.

There's 60 minutes in a game, and 58 of those came before the tide shifted.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dallas94Ware wrote:
No single play cost us this game.

It was a collection of plays during a 58 minute span that did so.

A penalty. A blown coverage, or rather 14 of them. A thrown away ball. A missed blitz pick up. A bad route. A dropped ball. All that and more contributed to the loss. It wasn't just one play or one player, but a collection.

There's 60 minutes in a game, and 58 of those came before the tide shifted.


I am aware of all of that. But when you have a lead, even a 3 point lead, and you get the ball back in your opponents side of the field with with a minute and change, you have to be smart. The game was there for the taking. We didn't play smart, they did and they won.

Anyone could make your argument about ANY game ever played. I'm talking about a specific time when intelligence comes into play and ends up being the difference in the game. Case in point, Mat Stafford faking the spike and catching us napping. SMART FREAKIN PLAY! Cost us the game.

He never would have got the chance if we managed our time more wisely.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rtnldave wrote:
Dallas94Ware wrote:
No single play cost us this game.

It was a collection of plays during a 58 minute span that did so.

A penalty. A blown coverage, or rather 14 of them. A thrown away ball. A missed blitz pick up. A bad route. A dropped ball. All that and more contributed to the loss. It wasn't just one play or one player, but a collection.

There's 60 minutes in a game, and 58 of those came before the tide shifted.


I am aware of all of that. But when you have a lead, even a 3 point lead, and you get the ball back in your opponents side of the field with with a minute and change, you have to be smart. The game was there for the taking. We didn't play smart, they did and they won.

Anyone could make your argument about ANY game ever played. I'm talking about a specific time when intelligence comes into play and ends up being the difference in the game. Case in point, Mat Stafford faking the spike and catching us napping. SMART FREAKIN PLAY! Cost us the game.

He never would have got the chance if we managed our time more wisely.


Or if the team had a clue how to effectively use prevent defense.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:05 am    Post subject: Re: This game was Romo's fault Reply with quote

Dirk Gently wrote:
Not really, but if you want to be critical of the guy, here's one he absolutely blew, courtesy of Bryan Broaddus. Romo, on 3rd down of the next to the last drive, throws the ball away. Had he taken the sack (just had to give himself up... no need to get hit) the clock stays running and Detroit has to use a time out or Dallas doesn't punt till the two minute warning.

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Romo in a careless maneuver, fires the ball out of bounds instead of getting on the ground, taking the sack and making the Lions have to use their 2nd timeout or carry it down to the two minute warning.


There's a real mental error in the 4th qtr of a tight game for y'all to chew on.


I'm curious when Bryan brought this up, was it the next day after going over the game? It never occur to me to take a sack on that play and force the timeout, I don't think anyone on the game day thread mention it ( I could be wrong ) or the announcers for that matter as well. It's easy after the fact to look back and say " we should have done this on this play" it's one of those heat of the moment plays where you get rid of the ball and avoid the sack. I do think on that last run play that it should have been said that you do not do anything to get a flag and let the clock stop, that the play that really hurt them the most IMO
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:55 am    Post subject: Re: This game was Romo's fault Reply with quote

PincheJimmy wrote:
Dirk Gently wrote:
Not really, but if you want to be critical of the guy, here's one he absolutely blew, courtesy of Bryan Broaddus. Romo, on 3rd down of the next to the last drive, throws the ball away. Had he taken the sack (just had to give himself up... no need to get hit) the clock stays running and Detroit has to use a time out or Dallas doesn't punt till the two minute warning.

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Romo in a careless maneuver, fires the ball out of bounds instead of getting on the ground, taking the sack and making the Lions have to use their 2nd timeout or carry it down to the two minute warning.


There's a real mental error in the 4th qtr of a tight game for y'all to chew on.


I'm curious when Bryan brought this up, was it the next day after going over the game? It never occur to me to take a sack on that play and force the timeout, I don't think anyone on the game day thread mention it ( I could be wrong ) or the announcers for that matter as well. It's easy after the fact to look back and say " we should have done this on this play" it's one of those heat of the moment plays where you get rid of the ball and avoid the sack. I do think on that last run play that it should have been said that you do not do anything to get a flag and let the clock stop, that the play that really hurt them the most IMO


I have to agree with Pinche on this one. Looking back on it would it have been to our advantage to take the sack? Yeah sure, but hindsight is 20-20. I think the play call is what we should be critical of, not Romo throwing the ball away instead of taking the sack. Why not run a low-risk high-reward type play like a RB screen or WR screen instead of sending all but one guy past the first down marker? More than likely a completion that might get a first down, but hey if not at least he goes down in bounds. Just an awful play call considering the situation IMO. I wish our offense would run more screens in general. Twice this season I've seen Demaryius Thomas take a WR screen for a TD (one being for 80 yards) and I like Bryant's ability to break a tackle and take it to the house more that DT. However, as Pinche said, other than the two deep completions at the end of the game, Smith's holding penalty was by far the play that hurts them the most. Without it, the Lions get the ball back with somewhere in the 20-30 seconds range and almost ensures a victory. Oh and idk about everyone else, but I was pretty irked with the commentators at the end of the game talking about the Cowboys going to win the game and all that jazz. Especially considering that the Lions still had 1:00 and considering how CJ had been playing all game. Call me superstitious, but I feel like they put bad juju on us lol.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the defense let the lions go the length of the field in 45 seconds with no timeouts and a single incompletion is why we lost????
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it was pointed out a day later.

Yes there are other plays (that's kinda my point)

But for those that want to complain about clock management, romo mental errors, and situational awareness, this is a perfect example. And, as many have said, no one caught it.

My real point here is that pretty much everyone is talking out their behind about what they would've /could've/should've done. And the best way to show that is that a real crucial error went completely ignored by everyone, including the most critical.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hindsight is 20-20! If we would have dropped a knee to run the clock and ten punted, but still allowed them tondrive the length of the field, we all would be asking why did they drop the knee instead if running the ball for the first down?

I do not believe dropping the knee was the smart play. Going for the first down was the smart play. Going for the first down gives you a whole mother set of downs to continue ckicking time of the clock. That is more of a killer instinct (that we all want to see) then just dropping a knee.

The issue was the play calling on that series. Plain and simple. If the first run didn't work, try a short easy pass to get a few yards then run again. Or something. We all knew 3 consecutive run wasn't going to work. But, going for the first down was the right call and the smart play.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are we forgetting the Smith's holding penalty stopped the clock?
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