Stephen Hill

JETSFOOTBALL25 · Joined: 01 Feb 2007 Posts: 1069

Does Hill remind anyone else of a young Damaryius Thomas? Raw, from GT (a triple option offense), came into the NFL tall, fast, but scrawny. First 2 or 3 years of Thomas in Denver and they all felt he was a bust. It looked like he put on some size going into his 4th year and broke out.

Hill is still pretty skinny and would probably play more confidently if he added another 10-15 pounds. Does anyone disagree that the comparison applies?

JMG · Joined: 23 Dec 2012 Posts: 3504 Location: Columbia

Not nearly as physical as him and he was taken 20 picks after DT for a reason
_________________

[]_[] Family

RollTide99 · Joined: 08 Jan 2013 Posts: 506

Alittle, he's not as physical and dosnt have a Peyton Manning throwing him the ball
_________________
[Img/]http://imageshack.us/a/img822/4925/mrxc.png[\img]

JMG on the sig

Bobby816 · Joined: 21 Sep 2013 Posts: 3670

I can see how people can group them 2 together bc of their size and college (Megatron also went there as well) But Hill is far from the player Thomas was/is. Hill is taller by an inch but is still 20lbs lighter than him and it shows, b/c Hill lacks the physical trait to go up and really grab the ball no matter how well he's covered. Let's also not forget a huge reason why Thomas' stats got better last year was b/c Peyton was throwing him the ball. Hill I really do think will be a good player and become a force but I still think he's a year or so away from that. He has to work on his hands, route running, be more physical and develop a chemistry with Geno to take that leap that Thomas did.

rickyt31 · Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 8078 Location: HEATlanta , GA

Thomas had better hands and was more physical. Thomas's growth was slowed down by Tebow.
_________________

ekill08x · Joined: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 9216 Location: Bayport, New York

Stephen Hill is nowhere close to D.Thomas. Hill is still invisible on 90% of the snaps. THe progress is really coming along slow. I just dont see anywhere near enough. Next year has to be a big year from him or hes going to be buried on the depth chart.
_________________

Props to JMG on the sig as usual

doumeyer · Joined: 03 Jul 2013 Posts: 598

So far Hill is a total bust. The guy just can't get open. He never did anything in college, to prove he is a high second round draft pick. Geno Smith needs all the help he can get and he is getting next to nothing from Hill. I am not saying cut him, but he is not a starting WR yet.

Jetsfandan423 · Joined: 25 Feb 2006 Posts: 16942 Location: Greensboro, NC

jetskid007 · Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 8272

I wouldn't say the comparison is off-base. If your speaking of raw talent, they have similar skill sets. I think you can nit-pick about their styles; Hill having more long speed whereas Thomas being the stronger player, but the biggest difference between the two is the fact that Demaryius Thomas has Peyton Manning throwing him the football. It's unfair logic to suggest that "Demaryius had a breakout-year in his 3rd season, thus Stephen Hill will" just because they are similar prospects. I think Stephen Hill will make a jump in his 3rd year, but don't expect him to be the next Demaryius.

green24 · Joined: 10 Apr 2010 Posts: 47651

Stephen Hill has performed like a competent #2 this year. He hasn't been great by any stretch, but he has certainly flashed greatness at times. I'm really excited to see him potentially grow into a top 10 (or better) receiver.

Raoul Duke · Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 3193 Location: Upstate NY

The biggest difference I see is that Thomas is a natural pass catcher; he uses his hands much better and his timing on jumps is a notch above Hill.

Hill is a freak of nature but he's really learning how to be a receiver. He still catches way too much with his body.
_________________
“You don’t burn out from going too fast. You burn out from going too slow and getting bored.”

- Cliff Burton

Davey · Joined: 28 Jan 2006 Posts: 22169 Location: New Jersey

Neither are in the same class of player, but Thomas is built more like Terrell Owens while Hill is more built like a Randy Moss type with deceptive strength.

They've got almost identical career paths, though. Thomas was just as raw Hill coming out and grew exponentially in his third year, which is common for a receiver. Thomas is case in point why the talks of Hill being a bust at this point is absurd, when this is what we signed up for when we drafted him.

JETSFOOTBALL25 · Joined: 01 Feb 2007 Posts: 1069

Davey · Joined: 28 Jan 2006 Posts: 22169 Location: New Jersey

Hill already is pretty damn strong, deceptively so for a receiver with his leaner frame. Honestly I wish we did more to get the ball in his hands on designed plays. But that's the body type he has and how he'll always be. He'll probably cap off at 220ish whereas Thomas is in the 230 range and a bit shorter.

rickyt31 · Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 8078 Location: HEATlanta , GA

I wish we took advantage of his 40inch vert in the redzone. Put him in more jump ball situations.
_________________